Who is the indictment for?

[BainsBane]

22 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Manafort
	14 (64%)
	Flynn Sr.
	2 (9%)
	Flynn Jr.
	1 (5%)
	Don Jr.
	0 (0%)
	Jared
	1 (5%)
	Carter Page
	1 (5%)
	Roger Stone
	0 (0%)
	Hillary Clinton
	0 (0%)
	Lee Harvey Oswald
	0 (0%)
	Other, name below
	3 (14%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[C_U_L8R]

1. Some Trump moron on MSNBC

just declared that it would be Tony Podesta.
Where do they find these lying-ass clowns?

[BainsBane]

2. LOL

My imagination is sadly limited, so I failed to include Podesta. Still, Hillary and Oswald are options in the poll.

[marylandblue]

3. Just call the RNC and they will give you a lying ass clown

They are great fun at parties.

[MontanaMama]

4. Some tool on MSNBC

just offered that the indictment might be for John Podesta. No way, right?

[bearsfootball516]

5. Lol. No.

[MontanaMama]

7. I know it is crazy

but we are in the season of CRAZY. The Dem panelist talking counterpoints with the woman who claimed Podesta would be indicted agreed that it could be possible. WTF? Nobody called her on her nutzo claim.

When the conversation switched to the Clinton camp's funding of the Steele Dossier this week, it made me wonder what was really going on behind the scenes. I take nothing for granted any more.

[cilla4progress]

6. Wanted to choose two:

Manafort and Page.

One big fish to scare the bejeezus out and show tRumpsters he's serious.

Smaller fish who strikes me as someone easy to flip.

On our way - as someone here said earlier.

Let's hope!

[Not Ruth]

27. Manafort was told that he would be indicted, his house has been raided, and is a long time big shot

Page is nothing compared to him. If you want to flip someone, that someone is Manafort.

[erronis]

8. Vote for Page (easy to flip) but think there could be someone else

Hoping that there is someone with a very insider view of this "operation".

I Am Not of course A Lawyer, but how much protection does being a privy counsel to anyone (especially a pResident) give against a grand jury indictment?

The old story about the deaf mafia boss who buried all the treasure in the back yard and told his lawyer. When the "boys" came to find out about where the funds were stashed, the lawyer told the them boss said "Go F yourself." Boss gone, lawyer richer. Trump being the deaf and dumb boss.

[sofa king]

9. Someone's personal assistant.

I've had some glimpses inside of what goes on in DC's politics. Long since, I've given up resisting the urge to correct statements like "Paul Manafort contacted X and met at Y" and simply gone along with it.

But that's not how it really works. When we toss around the names of DC heavy-hitters, what we're really talking about is an administrative team--at least one person and sometimes dozens--who execute the plans. They maintain the contact information, do the back-channel and low level planning, organize and know the details, make the flight and hotel reservations, clean up the information trail, and so on.

Many of those heavy hitters have more than one staff, one for their personal work and one for their professional office, and sometimes one for their criminal work, and when that's the case, there's always someone who ties it all together, who knows or can find out who was responsible for what.

That's who I would identify and nail to the wall first. Do that and everyone who contacted that person, which includes everyone involved, says, "oh, shit!"

[BainsBane]

10. Interesting

but wouldn't the assistants cooperate and avoid indictments? Isn't their involvement more like a witness than a target?

[sofa king]

11. Absolutely.

That's a very likely reason why the FBI director was fired: to buy time to obscure and destroy documentation.

But there is an international spin on things in this investigation and therefore the staff-level people are not in control of much of the information they produced, nor are investigators limited to domestic sources of information.

For example, any email or text could have easily been routed through an allied nation and captured and recorded. We or an ally could be deep inside Russian communications, and we may have recovered the other half of the communications. If the chatter was encrypted, we have people for that. We might have flipped someone caught in the middle of some other political hell, for example in the Ukraine. And so on.

There isn't a bottom in the espionage pool, and since this entire investigation clearly surrounds some form of collusion with a foreign nuclear power, the gloves have been off the whole time. It's only a question of what sources of information the prosecutor chooses to use.

My guess is that the real cases have been churning through FISA for most of the year.

[fleur-de-lisa]

20. You may be right. NT

[GeorgeGist]

12. Who says...

there's only one?

[BainsBane]

14. No one, precisely

CNN's reporting has referenced "an indictment," but they've been very vague.

The poll has a limited number of options, but you can always post about the combination of people whose indictment may be imminent.

[Madam45for2923]

13. Rebekah Mercer

[BainsBane]

15. We can dream.

[Madam45for2923]

16. Yes! Starting to think she had more of a hands on role than we thought before.

After some news we got yesterday.

[BainsBane]

17. If she is to be indicted

or her family, it will be late in the process. It's harder to take down the super rich.

[Madam45for2923]

18. Yep but it has been done!

[BainsBane]

19. No one voted for Oswald

Or wrote in BFEE. DU is slipping.

[musicblind]

21. Probably a name we haven't heard of. n/t

[BainsBane]

22. a distinct possibility. nt

[sagesnow]

23. Until they indict Meredith McIver...

no one will get to the bottom of it all.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029761050

[Madam45for2923]

25. Yep, I do believe this ghost of a woman is Mastermind Extraordinaire. 2gether w/her hubby John Baron

Thanks for the OP recc!

[Nevernose]

24. Col Mustard, w/ the Candlestick, in the Libeary

It’s been obvious all along. Follow the clues, people!

[Nevernose]

26. Seriously: Buzzfeeds Manafort money laundering report

From this morning makes it kind of obvious.

“Law enforcement sources say the companies sent funds in round-dollar amounts without explanation of what the money was to be used for. The countries where these transactions originated — notably Cyprus and the Caribbean nation of St. Vincent and the Grenadines — are notorious for money laundering. Federal law enforcement officials said they saw evidence of “layering,” the process by which the origin of money is obscured behind many layers of companies. Much of the money ended up in the US, sent to American home improvement contractors, a hedge fund, and even a car dealership”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopold/fbi-probe-of-paul-manafort-focuses-on-13-suspicious-wire?utm_term=.blx99dKWQd#.geKNNzXk5z

[sagesnow]

29. Hope you posted this in LBN or

General Discussion. Haven't seen it yet. Thanks for the link.

[BainsBane]

31. There is no question Manafort will be indicted

but rather if he will be the first indicted. We are told prosecutors start low on the totem pole and move up.

Still, he's probably the best bet.

[Kleveland]

28. How about the Keebler Elf?

That would be fun.

[BainsBane]

30. I did think of including him

but had limited options. My guess is it's not him. Besides, Trump would probably love that.

[tblue37]

32. It's for US! It's our Halloween treat. The bigger indictments will be our Xmas present--

unless, of course, it all fizzles out to become another Fitzmas.

[ClarendonDem]

33. Manafort

How would anyone conclude that Podesta is being indicted? What the hell would Podesta have to do with an investigation into Trump?

[BainsBane]

34. He had a contract in the Ukraine

as did Tad Divine. I suppose that's the connection. Or else because Podesta's emails were hacked, and the lie is that it's a false flag? I can only imagine how stupid the deplorables must be to believe that shit.