Let's look at what Mueller's up to.

[L. Coyote]

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[AJT]

1. Let's do the math....

Mueller takes a year = damage already done

[defacto7]

6. Your math isn't complete...

Mueller goes to trial w/o grand jury, it takes 2 years, may convict, may not
= damage done x2 +

Mueller takes less time than necessary.. he loses the conviction
= damage complete/game over

[Auggie]

7. Would you rather he do a quick, shoddy job and guarantee Trump a full term?

Slow and steady wins the race here.

[cstanleytech]

8. The real issue is not Trump its the Repugnants in Congress and I think its safe to say that

in all likelyhood some of them were involved in the mess with getting the Russians help and those are the ones we need to hope he can nail and send to jail.
Trump and Pence would just be icing on the cake.

[lagomorph777]

30. Bingo - and some congressional Reputins are making themselves targets.

Devin Nutcase, I'm looking at you.

[LanternWaste]

11. Ignoring variables in any equation is irrational.

Ignoring variables in any equation is irrational.

[George II]

14. If he doesn't tie everything up in a neat package the case will fall apart in days.

He knows what he's doing. Rushing to judgement will probably yield the wrong judgement.

[rainin]

15. We can't undo the Supreme Court Appointment

and other judicial appointments (not a small matter), but we can restore regulations if we win back control or block more damage is we can get the Senate. So all is not lost.

[OliverQ]

19. Well, technically we could but it would set a bad precedent.

[lagomorph777]

31. No, if Gorsuck is implicated (and he probably is; that's why he's there)

he can legitimately be impeached.

[tomp]

44. he should be impeached for accepting the nomination in the first place.

the senate was delinquent in its constitutional duty by not giving Garland a hearing. Any judge who would accept the nomination after that is complicit with contravention of the constitution by the senate.

[pnwmom]

17. Watergate took 2 years. This is much more complicated and even more important

to do it right. We won't get another shot at this.

[jaysunb]

37. 1973/74 didn't have the advantage of todays electronic communications and ability

to collect and disseminate information like today. I believe that will be the difference in the time frame of investigation and conclusions.

[Caliman73]

24. Watergate took over 2 years.

Watergate, which was less complicated than the Trump/Russia Collusion scandal, took over 2 years and that was with a Democratic Congress that was not obstructing the process.

I understand the frustration because of what Trump is doing in the meantime. The problem is that there is only one real shot at investigating this and being able to do something significant. If Mueller rushes things and messes up even a little, there won't be another chance to do anything until Democrats take back both houses of Congress and that would be a big if, especially if Trump is exonerated in any way (even OJ style where there was plenty of evidence, but they screwed up on technicalities).

[L. Coyote]

28. I'd say there is more than one shot at this, feds in several juridsdictions, NY state, and

multiple charges against individuals.

[SHRED]

2. And please hurry

Thank you

[Madam45for2923]

3. Nice thread by adorable Eric Garland!

[L. Coyote]

4. ... if you're planning on prosecuting a WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE .....

Love his emphasis and the smiley at the end.

[Madam45for2923]

9. No wonder Donald wants it to go fast. He NEEDS needs needs 2 know what Mueller got on him

[L. Coyote]

5. Republicans trying to hobble Mueller's probe know how bad the news will be.

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[wiggs]

26. But how can they finish the congressional investigations and find no evidence of

collusion and then have to defend their process when Mueller comes up with a laundry list of problems? Won't it look awful? Are they trying to rebut Muellers findings in advance, immunizing Trump against immediate impeachment? Are they confident they can isolate Mueller and de-legitimize him? Or do they not think Mueller will come up with collusion but will focus on money laundering?

A question I've had is that there are two kinds of consequences to a finding of wrongdoing. One is legal, the other is political.

If Mueller finds nothing with a likelihood of prosecution success but finds plenty of objectionable, problematic political issues (Kompromat, lying to the public, likely-but-not-provable criminal activity) does he tell the public? Does he tell congressional leadership and then leave it up to them to do the right thing?

[L. Coyote]

27. Search "mueller" on Twitter and you'll see plainly how they are attacking him and their tactics.

Click thew latest tab to see what's being pushed by Trump bots.

[Jakes Progress]

10. Yes. Yes. I know. But

somewhere between slow and deliberate and hasty and haphazard, there must be a middle way that will protect the world from trump and his idjit followers.

It is all well and good to take two years to form an iron clad case, but in the mean time, children and families are being imprisoned, separated, and deported. Our parks are being sold to the lowest bidder with low friends in high places. The good name of the country is being destroyed. Daily, the worst elements of the basket of deplorable is being ginned into violence. Oh, and this shit-gibbon is about to start a war that will kill millions.

Yes, my dream is the orange one in an orange jump suit. But there has to be a way to get this horror clown gone.

[pnwmom]

20. There are no shortcuts. But if Mueller's investigation succeeds this could knock the legs

out of the DT administration and the whole GOP. Once the Dems are back in control they'll have to work to fix all the damage.

[Jakes Progress]

40. Cool. So in 2026

We'll get rid of trump. Of course the second Korean war and the wars in Africa and Mexico will have made martial law mandatory - so maybe not then. But we'll get around to it.

This isn't usual stuff. We need to be ready for the missiles being launched within a day of the Mueller indictment. Do you think baby don would hesitate for a second to kill a million people if it meant he didn't go to jail?

I want the investigation to get it right. But it doesn't have to get everyone at once. Just the shit gibbon.

[pnwmom]

43. Why are you assuming the worst? I didn't say DT won't be impeached. nt

[Jakes Progress]

47. With trump, I think assuming the worst will happen

is a pretty good way to go.

I didn't say you didn't say there would be impeachment. I said it would be too late.

Yep. I'm a pessimist. Lifelong. I was doing better at that until a year ago this month. I love me some optimists though.

[L. Coyote]

29. The prosecution isn't weighting political factors to determine their speed of work.

They have a playbook they must follow that serves their oaths and the law.

[lagomorph777]

33. This is war; some of the damage will be terrible.

Lives will be lost or destroyed.

But there is no choice: we must fight to win, or Democracy itself is dead, and there will be no recovering from it.

D-Day was postponed for years, until the Allies felt confident we could win it. Millions of lives were lost in that time, but there was no other option. We had to wait until the time for victory was right.

[L. Coyote]

36. That's a stretch. This is politics, but not as usual.

We will soon see Mueller's work product and that could change everything about the Trump era, including bringing it to a swift end.

[Jakes Progress]

41. I guess that waiting is okay

as long as it isn't your life that is lost, or your child who dies without insurance, or your best friend is killed in a detention cell on the border.

[lagomorph777]

48. Yeah, we're all at risk.

[orangecrush]

12. K I C K

great post!

[murielm99]

13. People here are expressing worry about

how long it is taking.

My worry is that Mueller will be fired and there won't be a damn thing we can do about it.

[oasis]

16. Keep up the heat. It's driving Trump crazy. nt

[rainin]

18. I'm wondering why Grassley peeled off.

Remember when Finestein and Grassley came before the cameras looking shell-shocked. We all knew they learned something that they couldn't reveal. Now, suddenly, Grassley has turned and Finestein is pissed. And she looks like she can't say what she knows, but she acts like he's bowing to pressure leaving her to fight for the country. What made him back down?

[Madam45for2923]

46. Maybe he was blackmailed by Donald. Donald SOP MO

[rainin]

49. Or threatened.

I've always believed the Russians have all their emails. They released the Democrats' emails and withheld the Republicans' for future use.

[lancelyons]

21. It seems like there is some movement now to say there wasnt any collusion.

It seems like there is some movement now to say there wasnt any collusion.

Even CNN Wolf Blitzer getting schooled by Sean Duffy as he says Hillary and DNC colluded..

Somehow the story is changing and we are losing the narrative a bit.

[IronLionZion]

22. Are they waiting for people to die of old age?

I'll admit I don't know how legal stuff works. But it is so frustrating to have freeptards say "see Mueller has nothing on them and can't find anything after all these months so liberals are just sore losers".

I wish it would happen already. If a bunch of them get prosecuted before the 2018 election, that would be great for our side.

[More_Cowbell]

23. I'm impatient, but...

Despite the damage that Trump and the GOP is doing, some of which can't be undone (Gorsuch and all the federal judges, as noted above) it might actually be good if some of this comes out closer to the 2018 elections. Because some people have short memories. And if a GOPer gets taken down and someone else suddenly has to step in as a candidate, that might help the Democrats.

But it's so hard to see these smug traitors keep going every day, and see clueless people crowing about how there's no proof of collusion.

[lancelyons]

25. when the media starts back peddling on the collusion thing then you know nothing is going to happen.

[lagomorph777]

34. The media doesn't actually make the news.

RW media makes fake news, but reality will eventually win. They can't fool people forever, and most are not fooled now.

[L. Coyote]

35. At least, according to the latest Republican talking points, aka LIES.

The operatives are trying to spin this, which is easy to do when so much of the investigation is secret and/or classified. Vague talklng points might make the people saying them feel better, but they are meaningless and ineffectual. Mueller doesn't read DU comments.

[jaysunb]

38. +1 n/t

[malaise]

32. Oh Yes

Rec

[L. Coyote]

39. Federal grand jury today, Oct 27, approved the first charges in Mueller investigation

Drip, drip, splash, splash, TSUNAMI

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[Jakes Progress]

42. For whom? For what?

When will the charges be unsealed?

I hope your confidence in the plodding process is warranted. I just keep working with people whose lives are being ripped every day trump is in office.

[Madam45for2923]

45. Mueller time VIDEO!

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[onetexan]

50. Treasongate - ooh la la

I love it

[Turbineguy]

51. To the Lawyers on DU.

You can be proud of your profession.

(Speaking as an engineering type).