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is it manditory to say the pledge of alegience , is it manditory to sing the national anthem, (Original Post) AllaN01Bear Oct 2017 OP
No. nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 #1
I stopped saying the pledge of allegiance in high school in 1963. Haven't said it since. Shrike47 Oct 2017 #2
yes, in north korea spanone Oct 2017 #3
Not legally Not Ruth Oct 2017 #4
No, of course, to all of those questionns. MineralMan Oct 2017 #5
It's mandatory to ignore that kind of nationalism because God doesn't like it. hunter Oct 2017 #6

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
2. I stopped saying the pledge of allegiance in high school in 1963. Haven't said it since.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:21 AM
Oct 2017

No flack that I remember. And no, it's not illegal not to say something or to sing.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
4. Not legally
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:23 AM
Oct 2017

I recall being in 2nd grade of a diverse public school (probably 99% free lunch) many moons ago and going to the auditorium to sing the anthem. No one knew the words, including the teachers. Pissed off the new principal. So in music class, for the rest of the year, instead of singing about a purple dinosaur, we learned and sang the national anthem. And then we all sang it at the spring concert. I think that is why I hate the national anthem, and I have not sung it since.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
5. No, of course, to all of those questionns.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:24 AM
Oct 2017

Period. Some might want to make it so, but it will not happen.

Do as you choose.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
6. It's mandatory to ignore that kind of nationalism because God doesn't like it.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 11:49 AM
Oct 2017

I ignored the pledge of allegiance and the national anthem as a kid. My mom was a Jehovah's Witness. Later, after my mom got kicked out of the Witnesses (because she couldn't stay out of politics), we were Quakers. My dad was more comfortable with them.

My mom's family was largely pacifist, which is how they ended up in the U.S. Wild West. They were escaping wars in Europe, and later the U.S. Civil War. My mom's dad refused arms in World War II, but his compromise was to build and repair ships for the Merchant Marine. He wouldn't touch warships.

The only time I felt embarrassed about skipping the pledge was when my fourth grade teacher used me as an impromptu civics lesson about religious freedom in the U.S.A.. She wasn't being mean at all, she was pointing it out as something to be proud of, but I was already a weird kid and her attention only added to my aura of weirdness. But whatever I suffered by ignoring the pledge was nothing compared to the religious persecution my ancestors faced.

I'd remove the pledge of allegiance from school, it's an empty thing, the kind of thing authoritarian nations do. The only tolerable thing about the pledge is that it's not mandatory.

The "Star Spangled Banner" is simply an abomination, both musically and as an anthem.

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