Dear DEMS! Pay no attention to nay-sayers & people with agenda who wish our party ill.

[Madam45for2923]

It seems the new MEMO/MEME is that DEM Party is in trouble.
MSM really wants to go with this memo meme. GOP really would like to run with this meme memo.
Putin trolls/bots also running away with this gaslighting memo meme.
Heck even Donald is promulgating this memo meme or meme memo calling us the democrat party and saying we are in trouble.
Is the memo d'jour.

All of the above WISH we were in trouble.
They are gaslighting us. THEY ARE PROJECTING.
Plus it is a form of both parties are the same.
They have been able to suppress our voters and are afraid of us.
They don't like that our party has lots of diversity. Thus trying to control us & our narrative.

MY BALLAD TO DEMS

DEAR DEMS,

Pay no attention to nay-sayers & people with agendas who wish our party ill.
Our real task is to stop suppression. We got the numbers.
The future is in our hands. TOGETHER.
We together know all of this. Don't get gaslighted by people with agendas.


The only trouble DEMS need to contend with is voter suppression
(which MAGA by making ONLY WHITE VOTES while sending POC to the back of the bus.)
Plus we need to make sure Russia keeps out.
Other than that we are ready for 2018.

People telling us we got problems are gaslighting us and have an agenda to sabotage our party.
Anyone who says that the 2 parties are the same is lying & has an agenda.


People wish the DEM party was in trouble so they attack us, our party & our DEM figures & leaders.
They are not strong so seek to weaken us!
Our only problems are voter suppression (plus that eff up- Russian meddling/collusion last year).

Wondering why the Republicans desperately seek to suppress POC & DEMS from voting?
Because we got the numbers.


We got the numbers, why do you think the GOP is desperately suppressing our voters?
Why do you think the last 2 GOP presidents had to cheat to become prez?

Dear DEMS don't listen to people that speak of our party and us in the 3rd person.
With a tone of condemnation at the smallest slight
and lots of authoritarian phrases like DEMS Better do this,
& ready to give up at a moment's chance
or waste our time in endless fruitless disputes.


They give themselves away when they do that.
They are not our friends.
They want what we got.
We got the numbers.

Each of us makes our party battle-strong.
We are UNITED & READY.
We are the reason we are gonna KEEP THIS REPUBLIC.


CODA:


But don't argue with people on twitter about whether policies and laws are racist or sexist.
Argue with your City Council and your state reps and senators and Mayor and alderman.
And if you don't like how that argument went
Fire em.

Link to tweet

[Madam45for2923]

1. Anyone who says that the 2 parties are the same is lying & has an agenda.

[NurseJackie]

9. I see it often. Those particular individuals are prolific, but...

... not quite as clever as they imagine themselves to be. When someone continually finds "new" ways to attack and smear Democrats or the Democratic party (and often is cornered into apology-mode, or embarrassed into self-deleting) it's pretty clear what their agenda is.

I'll call him (or her) out on it whenever I see it... and their reaction is often a "who-MEEEE?" type of fake-innocence. Pretending to be misunderstood and pretending to be personally attacked. I get so sick of it.

Even a "re-worded" lie remains a lie. The whole thing is very Sarandonesque, isn't it?

[Me.]

2. Bravo

Biased OP after divisive OP these last 2 days how Perez is making terrible/awful changes that will divide the party have been rampant.

[Madam45for2923]

3. We are strong & united already. We are Ready. We fight suppression, everything else is distraction

& sabotage.

Thanks ME!!!!

[George II]

44. Its interesting that those not happy with the changes have pointed out the demographics...

...(i.e., race, gender, etc.) of those replaced, but are totally ignoring the demographics (i.e., race, gender, etc.) of the new nominees.

Also ignored or not realized is the fact that if these nominations are accepted (there still needs to be a vote from what I read) union representation will not only be increased but at an all-time high.

So, I just don't understand why all the angst of the changes. Haven't many Democrats been clamoring for change in the DNC?

[Me.]

48. It Has Been Propaganda

by those who want control and finds themselves thwarted in a particular agenda. This time it was so blatant as not to be missed.

[mcar]

4. Well said!

[SunSeeker]

5. K & R

[Squinch]

6. Kick! They're pulling out all the stops to make us believe these lies!

[Madam45for2923]

40. I always come back to these 2 questions: Does this person mean what they say & do they mean well?

[Hortensis]

69. Yes! +1000, and thanks for posting this OP.

Another test for truth is, "Is this true about ME?" Because, of course, if it is true of what I support, it is true about me.

[Madam45for2923]

81. Interesting question! Deep actually.

[yallerdawg]

7. Even here at DU, last year they worked hard to...

divide us, then silence us, and then - on Election Day - they shut us down!

When something works very well, why would we expect it to stop?

[Madam45for2923]

43. YES! It still bothers me that we were shut down on Election day!

Suppression in a way.

[Hoyt]

76. +1

[whathehell]

8. Agreed -- I think the Repubs would LOVE to have our problems now

rather than their own. They're so full of it.

[Madam45for2923]

42. They wish their fate on us! Trying to fool us in2 believing we are in d same boat.

whathehell
8. Agreed -- I think the Repubs would LOVE to have our problems now
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rather than their own. They're so full of it.

[whathehell]

53. Yes...They don't realize we are much smarter than they are..

I hope their whole damn party crashes and burns after the debacle they've brought on us.

[tomp]

10. Really?

So you don't think the hillary/bernie debate is a significant problem for the democratic party? Have you been noticing the divisive arguments taking place right here on du? With the mutual denunciations and blaming for the "loss" to trump?

There is indeed serious ranccor between the right and left of the party. Who the party puts forward in 2020 will be crucIal the the survival of the party in its current form. I submit that in the absence of a true progressive on the dem ticket in 2020 there is likely to be a schism with a very good likelihood of a third party challenge from the left.

[jalan48]

11. +1

[Tobin S.]

12. I have a similar view, but I think we can work through it.

I think a real left wing Democrat on the ticket in 2020 will go a long way to making things better in the party. That's what most of us really want. We don't want those mushy middle ground politics for the most part. We want really progressive big D Democrats.

[tomp]

16. Thank you, and wouldn't that be nice, ...

...bit if you think the entrenched powee within the party hierarchy is going to gove up its power easily, I think you will be disappointed. The era of Pamela Harriman and Penny Pritzee as king- makekrs is long past its expiration date, but they will not go down easily, I promise you. And ieven if a true progressive gets nominated or even elected they will not get supported bu the right wing of the party.

And then there's the vote counting, which no one in power is doing anything about.

A truly progressove candidate will spur grass roots activity. Without both we continue to be in danger.

[SharonClark]

62. Since Pamela Harriman has been dead for 20 years,

I have to agree with you that her era is over.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Ah yes, and if you dont get what you want?

[Tobin S.]

33. I vote a straight Democratic ticket every time and I have since 2000.

[murielm99]

13. True progressive?

You left out DLC, corporate, establishment....and a few other buzzwords.

Hillary/Bernie debate? Those two are doing other things right now. They are not debating. Trolls are coming here and making it look like there are divisions.

[tomp]

17. Hogwash.

You can blame it on trolls all you want. The divide is real.

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. Divide? WAIT

do you mean if you dont get the candidate you want you wont vote for whoever the Democrat is in November?

Is THAT the divide you mean?

[Squinch]

45. Exactly. But the trolls have a small, vocal group of cultish believers who are

like the Japanese soldiers who came out of the woods in the 70's and asked if WWII was over.

[Me.]

14. There Is No 'Right' In The Dem Party

and that is the problem in a nutshell

[Mediumsizedhand]

38. Yes, it is. Kind of like the populist movement claiming progressive. I am progressive. You?

[Me.]

46. I've Always Been....Wanting To Move Things Forward

But have described myself as liberal. It seems to me progressive became the word when liberal was used as a smear/insult. There is no difference between what this liberal and the 'progressives' want except when it comes to what some term as identity politics. As far as I'm concerned civil rights, reproductive rights are as much an economic matter as anything could be. It seems this hideous admin is going to push rhythm for low-income women. So they can't afford the babies rhythm will produce or the birth control pills that would prevent unwanted pregnancies. Rock and hard place. Issues like that as well as hungry children, the potential for war, rights and freedom according to both the Constitution and a humanist point of view, prison & sentencing reform and on and on and on, concern me. Finally...justice in all matters for those who deserve it and those who don't deserve more than a prison cell. Real justice that money can't buy itself out of.

[Mediumsizedhand]

50. Hence, populist does not own progressive. Leaving women, blacks, gays, Latino behind is NOT

progressive, but regressive.

[Me.]

58. Precisely

[murielm99]

60. Lately, the term "progressive"

has been used as a purity test. It is implied more than anything. I see it IRL as well.

[Me.]

64. So True

[Squinch]

49. I am suffering under the hell the Republicans will continue to throw at us till we stop them. You?

And frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what a Democrat calls herself or himself as long as we get these crooks out of power. You?

[Mediumsizedhand]

51. I care if it defines and separates us to the extent of losing to Republicans. Yes I do.

[Squinch]

54. Only one way to avoid that: all of us pull the D lever, whether the name next to it

is our number one or number two choice.

And no one takes their ball and goes home in a huff.

[Mediumsizedhand]

55. I agree, absolutely. What you say is obvious. So why are some working so hard for other results?

[Squinch]

56. Ugh. So we could continue this empty silliness or I could go and address postcards for the

Democratic candidates in my local races. Guess which one I'm going to do?

Have a nice day.

[Mediumsizedhand]

57. I do not think the divisiveness of the Democratic Party is silliness, but a very real issue.

But again, I agree with you totally. Thank you. I wish you an happy Sunday, too.

[NastyRiffraff]

15. Right on cue!

I knew someone would pop in with this kind of nonsense. It's boring, and deliberately divisive. We've seen it again and again whenever a post about the Democratic Party that's encouraging and forward-looking.

[tomp]

19. Cool! An h-word trifecta. Nt

You

[NastyRiffraff]

21. Again, boring

[Madam45for2923]

24. I get d feels that u use d word progressive in a v unifying way! KUDOS! Thanks 4 standing 2gether!

VIVA LA VIDA UNITED! BTW you are very convincing. I can tell u got organizing training & skills.



tomp
10. Really?

So you don't think the hillary/bernie debate is a significant problem for the democratic party? Have you been noticing the divisive arguments taking place right here on du? With the mutual denunciations and blaming for the "loss" to trump?

There is indeed serious ranccor between the right and left of the party. Who the party puts forward in 2020 will be crucIal the the survival of the party in its current form. I submit that in the absence of a true progressive on the dem ticket in 2020 there is likely to be a schism with a very good likelihood of a third party challenge from the left.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. It is going on here on DU , imagine what is going on out there, I told you it was gonna

happen again.

When will they be bold enough to say "you have to give me a REASON to vote for your candidate"

we know that one is coming, dont we

[Squinch]

47. Yeah, but no. Those with brains understand the stakes now. The rest were never going

to be happy anyhow.

And PS, there was a true progressive on the dem ticket in 2016.

[radical noodle]

59. It's more a division between

Democrats and non-Democrats.

[brer cat]

63. Who are you calling the "right" or "right wing" of the Democratic Party?

That is exactly what constitutes a divisive post; making up your own definitions of terms and tossing it out like fact. The Party has plenty of progressives although when you quantify it with "true" then I assume you have an agenda to push.

[lapucelle]

65. "There is indeed serious ranccor between the right and left of the party."

"The right [wing] of the [Democratic] Party"? Who on earth might that be?

Here are the OnTheIssues.org infographics for E. Warren, N. Pelosi, B. Sanders, C. Schumer, and HRC in no particular order. (Here's a hint though; The first one is a registered Democrat.)

Included are the 2016 Democratic nominee and four others who currently hold key leadership positions. Which one of these people is a member of an apocryphal "right wing" of the Democratic Party?

According to OnTheIssues.org, they are all classified "Hard Core Liberal" based on factors like voting records, sponsored and co-sponsored legislation, and policy positions and statements.

[Mediumsizedhand]

70. When are you going to clue us into the answer. Curious. Obvious by positions, none are central.

I still want the answers. You can whisper it in my ear thru pm.

[lapucelle]

71. Schumer, Pelosi, HRC, E Warren, Sanders.

Were you surprised?

[Mediumsizedhand]

72. I thought Pelosi might be one,

Then the other three that fell in the same place, then had Sanders. So, I did pretty good. Actually I thought it either Schumer or Pelosi in number one. But, I would have picked Pelosi. Excellent. Thank you. That is great to see.

[lapucelle]

74. It's not surprising that Republicans are continually

demonizing Pelosi and Schumer, considering their hard core liberal outlook and remarkable leadership.

[Mediumsizedhand]

75. Absolutely. You are right on.

[Mediumsizedhand]

73. Also,

I always pegged Sanders as leaning Libertarian and would have endless battles from others with that description.

[lapucelle]

77. It might be a function of his voting record

on gun legislation.

[Mediumsizedhand]

78. We also have his Amber alert vote and toxic waste to south Texas.

Pot would be libertarian too.

[betsuni]

67. There's the propaganda: "true progressives" must reclaim the party from corporate right Dems

[Tikki]

20. PLEASE remember...When strong candidates who may lead our Party are discussed.....

somebodies will instantly try to turn the discussion back to be about only Bernie v Hillary.


Tikki

[Mc Mike]

22. What really strikes me, is that a cockroach could do a better job than the orange menace.

So manifestly unfit from day one, composed entirely of weak points and failures, a perfect vacuum in terms of virtues possessed.

We have hundreds of elected officials that I would proudly back, all more qualified and trusty than the pumpkin head the repugs are zealously backing now.

Cockroach > drump. Any Dem > cockroach.

[Eliot Rosewater]

29. And I wish everyone who is confused would brush up on how the two party system

works.

the party with ONE more seat, no matter WHO is in that seat, THAT party decides everything that happens in our government

everything

When will they figure this out?

[tomp]

23. Feeling is mutual. Nt

[Madam45for2923]

25. VIVA LA VIDA UNITED!

[Eliot Rosewater]

31. LOL fucking A

We are united, those who say otherwise have an agenda, period.


I mean look at this thread, dear god. It is HAPPENING AGAIN.

Why is it ALLOWED here of ALL places!

[Irish_Dem]

30. We got the majority of votes in the last election. But were the victims of voter rigging.

Voter suppression, hacking the voting system, and intense negative propaganda against our candidate from Russia and our own FBI.

Putin stole the election with the help of the GOP and the American government.

We need to face the harsh reality of the political environment and develop a new strategy.

[Tobin S.]

32. I think we're going to win in 2020 no matter who is on the ticket for us

because Trump is just so incredibly bad, but let me ask you guys something.

When weighing policy, which of these two Democrats do you prefer?

Elizabeth Warren or Joe Donnelly? This stuff matters. Take the time to look them up if you need to.

I prefer Warren and I'd much rather see her at the top of the ticket than a Dem like Joe. But you know what? Joe is from Indiana and I'm from Indiana, and I know that, being from here, we're lucky to have anyone in the Senate who is to the left of Ronald Reagan. So I will happily vote for Joe this coming election.

Wanting the party to tack left doesn't make you a troll.

[Madam45for2923]

34. I agree w u ! Wanting to gaslight, demoralize, sabotage, & bully DEMS makes a troll.

Tobin S.
32. I think we're going to win in 2020 no matter who is on the ticket for us

because Trump is just so incredibly bad, but let me ask you guys something.

When weighing policy, which of these two Democrats do you prefer?

Elizabeth Warren or Joe Donnelly? This stuff matters. Take the time to look them up if you need to.

I prefer Warren and I'd much rather see her at the top of the ticket than a Dem like Joe. But you know what? Joe is from Indiana and I'm from Indiana, and I know that, being from here, we're lucky to have anyone in the Senate who is to the left of Ronald Reagan. So I will happily vote for Joe this coming election.

Wanting the party to tack left doesn't make you a troll.

[Tobin S.]

36. Okay!

[tymorial]

37. D is my favorite key :)

[Madam45for2923]

39. for DEAR!

[JHan]

41. hear hear!

K & R

[samnsara]

52. Dems are doing ok..the nay sayers had a big issue with the elections...

...someones fee fees got hurt I think.....

[Garrett78]

61. GOP has the White House, US House, US Senate, majority of governorships and state legislative bodies

In spite of being dominated by a bunch of batshit crazy people.

So, yeah, Dems are in an incredibly weak position. There's no use in sticking our heads in the sand.

[Madam45for2923]

66. Like I said we got some nice suppression going, so yeah no heads in the sand.

[betsuni]

68. K&R

[lovemydogs]

79. I never pay attention to the Dems are in trouble stories

Usually its just something to shout about or to sound like they are being fair to the repubs.

[Madam45for2923]

80. I see what you mean.

[Madam45for2923]

82. Dear DEMS! Pay no attention to nay-sayers & people with agenda who wish our party ill.