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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRobert Reich talks to Trump voters in TN
I don't have a lot of sympathy for Trump voters in general, and definitely have a grudge against "Never Hillary" voters and Stein voters because it really was a binary choice and Trump really was a known quantity dangerous candidate who has absolutely lived up to the billing and then some.
BUT, I also know that there are a lot of people out there who don't follow politics AT ALL and therefore don't really know a damn thing except what a few blaring headlines here and there -- and a bunch of Russian bot FB and Twitter posts might throw at them -- and so voted for Trump in our of personal anguish and utter ignorance. It's hard for me to remember this, but I do try to remind myself now and then.
And Robert Reich has been talking to some of them and brings us some good news, I think. I post it here because open hostility towards these people won't help us out of our present early fascist state.
Today I'm in Tennessee (I just met someone who knows Dolly Parton but thats as close as I've come to my idol).
Kentucky and Tennessee voted for Trump. In my free-floating focus group over the last couple of days in both states Ive spoken with nearly 20 people who said they voted for Trump. Almost all of them told me this:
1. The reason they voted for Trump is they hated Hillary or wanted to shake things up in Washington, or "thought we needed a businessman."
2. They dont like the job Trump is doing as president. (Hes embarrassing, makes me ashamed, behaving like a child, "chronic liar."
3. Every one of them told me they regret voting for him (never would have if Id have known what an as*hole he is, one told me).
4. They said their own personal economic position hasnt changed from what it was last year, and Trumps policies favor the rich (he just cares about wealthy folk, said hed drain the swamp and the swamp is worse.)
5. Most are worried about Trump's mental capacity (I dont think the man has all his marbles, he could get is into a goddamn nuclear war, "weird as hell, crazy as a loon.)
6. Most dont think hell finish his first term (hell be impeached, kicked out, removed, hell resign.)
7. Most don't trust him ("hasn't got a goddamn thing done," "blowhard," "huckster," "conman."
8. Most would support a Democrat in 2020, if it was the right candidate ("both parties are rotten to the core," "sure, I'd vote for a Democrat," "used to be a Democrat but party got too liberal."
9. Most said theyd support someone who cleaned up the mess in Washington, got big money out of politics, made the system work for ordinary people.)
10. Several of them told me that they'd support Medicare for all, or any system that lowered their health insurance costs. ("Spending a fortune for insurance," "insurance companies are the worst," "can't afford to insure my family."
11. Several put education at the top of their list.
12. Not one of them supported spending money on a wall along the southern border of the U.S. ("stupidest goddamn idea I ever heard," "plain dumb," "guy ever heard of airplanes?"
More to come.
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/photos/a.404595876219681.103599.142474049098533/1737735859572336/?type=3
elleng
(131,143 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)elleng
(131,143 posts)Could use the exposure.
riversedge
(70,310 posts)tanyev
(42,623 posts)then you werent paying any attention.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I bet most, maybe all, will vote for Trump in 2020.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)We don't have to convince every last one of them about the mistake they made last year. If we swing three or five percent in handful of states, Democrats can carry those states in 2020. In the meantime, we should be getting our message out to these people: Education is at the top of many of their lists? Democrats are all about educating our children; Republicans want to make it a profit center for their wealthy contributors.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)And thanks for the sensible comment.
ProfessorGAC
(65,212 posts)". . . but the party got to liberal for me." Shut the fuck up. You were never a democrat and the party has gotten LESS liberal since i first voted in 1974. That guy is a moron.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)There's a very "centrist" (for want of a better word) strain here that disturbs me. I saw someone complain about Common Dreams as a source because it "took a hard left" turn or something sometime ago.
?????
I don't understand that attitude, and certainly don't feel comfortable with it. By those standards, I suppose I'm "hard left."
And, according to some, not entirely welcome here.
DK504
(3,847 posts).... in Washington, or "thought we needed a businessman."
The media has hated Hillary since day one and made her public enemy #1. Why? What did she do to deserve such disdain and contempt? Being smart? Working and not baking cookies? WTF?
Persondem
(1,936 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Not everyone does.