CBS/NYT Poll: Romney Leads By 1 Point, Seen As Best To Handle The Economy

[CatWoman]

I really don't get this




CBS/NYT Poll: Romney Leads By 1 Point, Seen As Best To Handle The Economy
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A perception that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is best to lead the economy may have powered him to a slim 1-point lead in a new CBS News/New York Times poll released Wednesday.

Romney leads President Obama 47 percent to 46 percent among registered voters, and is viewed as being better to handle the economy by a 49 percent to 41 percent margin. Pessimism over the economy dominates the survey, though Obama is viewed as more likely to help the middle class, 52 percent to 38 percent.

“In the wake of disappointing jobs reports and weak economic news, Americans’ views of the economy have become more negative in this poll,” pollsters wrote. “The percentage that says it is improving has dropped to 24% from 33% in April, and 30% now say it is getting worse. The President’s approval rating on handling the economy remains low, at 39%. 64% say his policies have contributed at least some to the economic downturn.”

But one trend continues to hound Romney in the CBS/NYT poll — more voters are eager to replace Obama than they are enthusiastic about Romney himself. Fifty-two percent of Obama voters “strongly favor” their candidate, while 37 percent say they like Obama “with reservations” and 8 percent that say they simply dislike Romney.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/romney-cbs-new-york-times-poll.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

[warrior1]

1. that's because it's bullshit.

[FarLeftFist]

51. Obama leads in 24 of the 27 major national polls. 1 tied. CBS poll is BS.

[BumRushDaShow]

2. Remember "horse race". n/t

[pnwmom]

3. This is a "dead heat." TPM is misrepresenting the polls, which show

a tie, the same neck and neck race it's been for a while.

When the difference is within the statistical error, then neither candidate can truthfully be said to lead the other.

At least CBS is reporting this correctly. Shame on TPM for not following its lead.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57475178-503544/obama-romney-in-dead-heat-in-presidential-race/?tag=contentMain;contentBody


CBS News) President Obama and Mitt Romney are effectively tied in the race for the presidency, according to a new CBS News/New York Times survey.
Forty-seven percent of registered voters nationwide who lean towards a candidate back Romney, while 46 percent support the president. Four percent are undecided. The one percentage point difference is within the survey's three point margin of error.

[GeorgeGist]

25. oh I get it ...

they're not polls they're SURVEYS.

[pnwmom]

26. They're not elections, anyway. They are polls of supposedly random voters

that are supposed to be able to predict the votes of all registered voters.

In other words, yes, they are surveys.

[malaise]

4. Bullshit

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. It's incorrect. It IS bullshit, and it's within the margin of error for polling.

[progressivebydesign]

6. Totally contradicts the other polls. Is this DU now? Poll posts on the hour?

Gets old when half the posts here are handwringing over polls.

DU is so dysfunctional. Yesterday people were ebullient over the Romney news, today it's oh this poll is bad.. what will we do???

Sure the freeps are eating these posts up.

[Curtland1015]

7. Is this DU NOW?

You should have seen it four years ago.

It was WAY worse.

[CatWoman]

8. oh give me a fucking break

I'm not in the habit of posting polls.

I haven't even seen any other polls posted.

I posted this because 1. I found it on TPM, and 2. because I fucking wanted to.

any questions?

[pnwmom]

13. CatWoman, it's not your job to understand that when the support of

two candidates is within the margin of error, then the race is tied.

But TPM should know better. All they had to do is repeat what CBS was telling them -- the race is a "dead heat."

Why didn't they do that? Maybe because that wouldn't be "news" because that's been true for quite some time.

[CatWoman]

19. all well in good

However, IMO it shouldn't even be this close.

[pnwmom]

20. Yes, it's worrisome. But I've never thought this would be an Obama romp.

And I'm pleased that the bad economic news of last week was overshadowed by the Bain controversies.

[progressivebydesign]

47. Yeah, question. Why are you so hostile?

There have been polls posted all day here, with the usual hand-wringing.

Sorry my opinion upset your sensibilities.

[AsahinaKimi]

9. In a pig's eye.

What's he gonna do as President? Hide the US Treasury in the Cayman islands?

[Art_from_Ark]

42. Don't forget Switzerland and Bermuda

[ProSense]

10. Well, that's

"CBS/NYT Poll: Romney Leads By 1 Point, Seen As Best To Handle The Economy"

...an improvement from the last poll.

CBS/NYT Poll: Romney By 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002686811

[muntrv]

11. Let's see if that holds once more people see what Bain Capital has done

to Amercan workers, sending their jobs overseas.

[treestar]

12. The better on the economy thing will go away

Once people realize all the outsourcing Bain did and the fact Rmoney has so many foreign accounts.

Everyone should check this out:

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[Botany]

14. Obama is crushing Mitt ..... the poll is bullshit

In Columbus Ohio I have seen a total of 5 Romney yard signs, zero bumper stickers,
and one Romney t shirt ..... Obama is up 70 to 22 w/ latinos ... he is winning w/ women,
gays, and young people.

THE ONLY DEMOGRAPHIC ROMNEY HAS IS OLD WHITE MEN.



his crowds in Ohio today looked bored to death

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

27. I've seen NONE in VA. Absolutely NONE. I canvassed in a fairly conservative area this past weekend..

No bumper stickers. No posters. No canvassers. No signs. Nothing!!

[progressivebydesign]

48. nothing in my area, either. Saw two a few months go, then nothing. And I'm in a red area. n/t

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

56. And yet, they want us to believe that Obama and Robme are TIED??!?!

[CatWoman]

57. you know, you're right

I've yet to see ONE Romney sign, and I live in Wingnutastan (Georgia)

[Johonny]

34. I see more McCain/Palin on cars

not seen a Romney yet.

[TheKentuckian]

37. I have seen exactly one and I kid you not

it was on a late model (maybe brand new, I dunno) Caddy at country club (I was there for a wedding).

I've seen many more Trump stickers than Romney, a statement that speaks for it's self about the fella's popularity. Now the anti-Democrat/anti-Obama sentiment may offset that but there is no love for Weird Willard to be found in a place where you seldom go a day without seeing a dumbass Dubya sticker or several.

[LeftofObama]

15. I call bullshit!

That is all.

[LiberalAndProud]

16. First, I won't invest in any stock based on a political poll. No way. No how.

Also, I remember the 'Anybody But Bush' years. That didn't pan out in the end.

If the votes are counted, it's not even a contest. I feel that in my bones.

[Drahthaardogs]

17. I do not believe it.

I think they are making this a horse race, but it is not. Romney has no path to 270. He has too many MUST wins. Unless Obama eats a baby on stage or something, he wins.

[Lifelong Protester]

18. Complete BS.

I've worked around animals in a barn too long to not know the sound of thudding horse-pucky when I hear it.

[Motown_Johnny]

21. Outlier and the popular vote doesn't matter anyways

[muntrv]

22. Let's ask the folks of Freeport, IL if Romney is better at handling the economy.

[progressivebydesign]

49. and Marion, Indiana. n/t

[KansDem]

23. How Mitt would "handle the economy."

Become "CEO" of America;
Fire all American citizens (we would lose citizenship);
Seize Medicare, Social Security, unemployment compensation funds, etc.;
Sell America's assets to foreign governments and corporations.

Walk away with trillions while bragging about being a "jobs creator."

[freshwest]

32. ^^^^^THIS^^^^^

[Jennicut]

24. And the Fox poll has Obama up by 4.

It is a close race, but one poll does not mean any more then another poll at this point.

[ecstatic]

28. Today it was said that Romney is outspending Obama 2 to 1

with ads in the swing states.

[DJ13]

29. Overweight the conservative votes, underweight the middle/liberal votes

Polls are nothing more than ideological propaganda the last 30 years.

[GarroHorus]

30. This explains it

"The CBS News/New York Times poll was conducted July 11-16 using live phone interviews with samples of 1,089 adults and 942 registered voters."

So more than 13% of those polled are not even registered to vote. Live phone interviews would be 100% land lines. Plus, it's a national poll.

The demographics of the poll demonstrate it was taken with no other purpose in mind than the media based "horse race" aspect of a presidential election. If there's no horse race, there's no ratings.

[CatWoman]

31. thanks Garro

you made me feel much better

[WI_DEM]

41. Actually it says land lines and cell phones were called...

This poll was conducted by telephone from July 11-16, 2012 among 1,089 adults nationwide.

Phone numbers were dialed from samples of both standard land-line and cell phones. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus three percentage points. The error for subgroups may be higher. This poll release conforms to the Standards of Disclosure of the National Council on Public Polls.

[progressivebydesign]

50. How many of us actually answer our cell phones if it is an unknown number?

I sure don't. especially if its out of the area.

[coalition_unwilling]

33. The popular vote means nothing and the electoral college means everything. There Obama

looks almost unbeatable.

So Romney may have fooled a bare majority of voters (margin of error considerations notwithstanding) into thinking he would better manage the economy. But Obama's ground game in the states and the perception that Romney is an all-around sleaze bag -- wait for new revelations about his scuzzy behavior at the Olympics Committee in the next few weeks -- should be enough to ensure that this single metric does not count for much in November.

Obama has 'defined' Romney now and battling back from that, as John Kerry and Michael Dukakis both discovered, is easier said than done.

[spanone]

35. the media is going to make hundreds of millions by keeping it close.

HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS

[lovemydog]

54. yup

Also, most hip people don't respond to telephone surveys. I reply 'I don't respond to voice solicitations, please take my name off your list and don't call me again.' The average democratic voter is more sophisticated than republican voter. They don't waste time with corporate push polls.

[alcibiades_mystery]

36. It's close now, and I have no doubt that some polls will show Romney with a 1 or 2 or 3 point lead

Folks should a0 stop pretending that this sort of thing isn't possible; it's close enough for some methodologies to fall on either end of a close contest; b) stop worrying so much about that--it's going to be down to the wire and you may as well get used to it.

We're going to have to donate and donate and donate and pound the pavement and fight for this one, no other way around it.

[B Calm]

38. How can a pioneer in outsourcing

American jobs overseas lead President Obama as best to handle the economy? Are people really that stupid?

[Zalatix]

39. How can a party AT WAR with women even be in the running anymore?

Humanity, indeed, is stupid. Both genders.

[WI_DEM]

40. Obama has gained ground then in the CBS News poll, in their previous poll Mittens led by 3 46-43

so the president gained three points to Mitten's one.

[Nye Bevan]

43. This can't possibly be true. Everyone I know supports Obama. Case closed. (nt)

[Zoeisright]

44. Then this country deserves what it's going to get.

[uponit7771]

45. ****PLEASE FOCUS ON SWING STATES AND NOT M$M BS*****

M$M BS is to horse race a national election with national poll numbers KNOWING it wont come down to this...

Regards

[flamingdem]

46. Yes, and we also need to keep our eye on tight Senate races

that's where the action is and the pukes are going to dump dirty money all over them later

[alittlelark]

52. Steaming Crock of SHIT.

These outrageous claims NEED to be debunked.

[rl6214]

53. You can get 100 different results from 100 different poll

We'll see in November.

[toddwv]

55. Meh...

This same poll had McCain ahead by 2 points as late as September...

[Initech]

58. Stockholm syndrome?

If people really knew the real terror that Bain Capital has wrought, you can bet this would be Obama with a no contest landslide.

[cbdo2007]

59. Question about these polls....who do they call??

They say it is "registered voters" but are they just generated from a national list or from a specific region??

I can't believe by any sense of my imagination that Romney could possibly be ahead of President Obama with normal voters. If anything, Intrade keeps having President Obama rising and Romney sinking.