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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:20 AM Oct 2017

Sinister figures lurk around our careless president - By George F. Will

By George F. Will Opinion writer October 13 at 8:10 PM

With eyes wide open, Mike Pence eagerly auditioned for the role as Donald Trump’s poodle. Now comfortably leashed, he deserves the degradations that he seems too sycophantic to recognize as such. He did Trump’s adolescent bidding with last Sunday’s preplanned virtue pageant of scripted indignation — his flight from the predictable sight of players kneeling during the national anthem at a football game. No unblinkered observer can still cling to the hope that Pence has the inclination, never mind the capacity, to restrain, never mind educate, the man who elevated him to his current glory. Pence is a reminder that no one can have sustained transactions with Trump without becoming too soiled for subsequent scrubbing.

A man who interviewed for the position Pence captured, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), is making amends for saying supportive things about Trump. In 2016, for example, he said he was “repulsed” by people trying to transform the Republican National Convention from a merely ratifying body into a deliberative body for the purpose of preventing what has come to pass. Until recently, Corker, an admirable man and talented legislator, has been, like many other people, prevented by his normality from fathoming Trump’s abnormality. Now Corker says what could have been said two years ago about Trump’s unfitness.

The axiom that “Hell is truth seen too late” is mistaken; damnation deservedly comes to those who tardily speak truth that has long been patent. Perhaps there shall be a bedraggled parade of repentant Republicans resembling those supine American communists who, after Stalin imposed totalitarianism, spawned the gulag, engineered the Ukraine famine, launched the Great Terror and orchestrated the show trials, were theatrically disillusioned by his collaboration with Hitler: You, sir, have gone too far.

Trump’s energy, unleavened by intellect and untethered to principle, serves only his sovereign instinct to pander to those who adore him as much as he does. Unshakably smitten, they are impervious to the Everest of evidence that he disdains them as a basket of gullibles. He understands that his unremitting coarseness satisfies their unpolitical agenda of smashing crockery, even though his self-indulgent floundering precludes fulfillment of the promises he flippantly made to assuage their sense of being disdained. He gives his gullibles not governance by tantrum, but tantrum as governance.

With Trump turning and turning in a widening gyre, his crusade to make America great again is increasingly dominated by people who explicitly repudiate America’s premises. The faux nationalists of the “alt-right” and their fellow travelers such as Stephen K. Bannon, although fixated on protecting the United States from imported goods, have imported the blood-and-soil ethno-tribalism that stains the continental European right. In “Answering the Alt-Right” in National Affairs quarterly, Ramon Lopez, a University of Chicago PhD candidate in political philosophy, demonstrates how Trump’s election has brought back to the public stage ideas that a post-Lincoln America had slowly but determinedly expunged. They were rejected because they are incompatible with an open society that takes its bearing from the Declaration of Independence’s doctrine of natural rights.

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Sinister figures lurk around our careless president - By George F. Will (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP
"basket of gullibles" Achilleaze Oct 2017 #1
Nice piece. dalton99a Oct 2017 #2
K&R Great job Mr. Will ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #3
Will's writing is so pretentious as to make me sick Brainstormy Oct 2017 #4
I agree Polly Hennessey Oct 2017 #5
He normally nauseates me, cilla4progress Oct 2017 #6
Dear Mr. Will... llmart Oct 2017 #7
indeed DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Zorro Oct 2017 #12
love how people who pimped hard for the GOP deny they helped create the monster that is TRUMP Skittles Oct 2017 #13
Yep. llmart Oct 2017 #17
I usually can't stand Will; I'll give him credit here. He'll go out with a few redemption points in NBachers Oct 2017 #8
hel has frozen over DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #9
"Trumps energy, unleavened by intellect and untethered to principle" lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #11
George Will quit the Republican party because of Trump janx Oct 2017 #14
piss on george will anyway KG Oct 2017 #15
Where was he years ago when the GOP opened its heart to the ultra right wing nut jobs? eleny Oct 2017 #16
I think republicans are seeing what is coming very soon. Demtexan Oct 2017 #18

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. "basket of gullibles"
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:24 AM
Oct 2017

There you have it.

Toss a couple of baskets of gullibles and deplorables together and what do you get? The Latter-Day republican-russian Party, Inc.

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
3. K&R Great job Mr. Will
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:49 AM
Oct 2017

A well-thought out comprehensive article encapsulating the sick person elected to govern us by a "basket of gullibles" and/or "basket of deplorables", both descriptions apply to his base.

Brainstormy

(2,381 posts)
4. Will's writing is so pretentious as to make me sick
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:03 AM
Oct 2017

that being said, the fundamentals of this piece are spot on.

cilla4progress

(24,800 posts)
6. He normally nauseates me,
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:45 AM
Oct 2017

though I appreciate he is anti-trump. And yes, his verbosity is pretentious.

But Will will find himself on the right side of history.

I believe Miller is the most heinous of those directing trump, and I'm glad will called him out here. Miller is truly a sick fuck.

llmart

(15,567 posts)
7. Dear Mr. Will...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:22 PM
Oct 2017

You've carried water for the GOP for years, but now you want to be on the right side of history and/or relevant, so you choose to castigate Trump and Pence. Well, here's my opinion on your opinion piece.

We are not going to forget that it isn't just Trump/Pence who are trying to destroy our democracy. It's literally the entire GOP and we Democrats are NOT going to forget that.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
10. indeed
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:02 PM
Oct 2017

The axiom that “Hell is truth seen too late” is mistaken; damnation deservedly comes to those who tardily speak truth that has long been patent. "

Mr. Will, the truth you ignored is right in front of you, and you ignored it for years. Are you practicing a speech for St. Peter, the one you give before you sent thrown down with all the other pundits? Might I sugest this for reserach?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malebolge

especially this part:

Bolgia Two: Sinners guilty of excessive flattery are punished in this bolgia, immersed forever in a river of human excrement, similar to what their flatteries were.

I expect you and many of your fellow right wing pundits will find many, many friends there.

Response to llmart (Reply #7)

Skittles

(153,299 posts)
13. love how people who pimped hard for the GOP deny they helped create the monster that is TRUMP
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:36 PM
Oct 2017

Mr. Will can fuck himself

llmart

(15,567 posts)
17. Yep.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:31 PM
Oct 2017

Just like some I know who had Trump signs in their yard and now try to pretend they didn't vote for him, like those of us who pass their house every day can't remember.

NBachers

(17,186 posts)
8. I usually can't stand Will; I'll give him credit here. He'll go out with a few redemption points in
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:26 PM
Oct 2017

his favor.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
9. hel has frozen over
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:57 PM
Oct 2017

I actual like a G will quote:

"The axiom that “Hell is truth seen too late” is mistaken; damnation deservedly comes to those who tardily speak truth that has long been patent.

lindysalsagal

(20,792 posts)
11. "Trumps energy, unleavened by intellect and untethered to principle"
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:16 PM
Oct 2017

I seriously doubt Will cares any more about regular people than frump: This is 180 degrees from why the frumpers love their idiot: He makes them feel better about themselves. Put Will in that category, as well.

janx

(24,128 posts)
14. George Will quit the Republican party because of Trump
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:47 PM
Oct 2017

Conservative columnist George Will has left the Republican Party over its presumptive nomination of Donald Trump.

Will, who writes a column for The Washington Post, spoke about his decision Friday at an event for the Federalist Society in Washington.

“This is not my party,” he told the audience, the news site PJ Media first reported.

Speaking with The Post, Will said that he changed his voter registration from “Republican” to “unaffiliated” several weeks ago, the day after House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) endorsed Trump.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-will-exits-the-republican-party-over-trump/2016/06/25/2b6cdcaa-3b09-11e6-9ccd-d6005beac8b3_story.html?utm_term=.f1da3b1dd1b3

eleny

(46,166 posts)
16. Where was he years ago when the GOP opened its heart to the ultra right wing nut jobs?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:11 PM
Oct 2017

He was right there sucking up to them.

"Calling himself “very pro-tea party,” Will argued that “in some ways” the tea party is “more of a force than ever.” "
http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/george-will-in-some-ways-tea-party-more-of-a-force-than-ever/

So, Will, in the coarsest way possible - go fuck yourself.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
18. I think republicans are seeing what is coming very soon.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:40 PM
Oct 2017

The GOP selling out to the russians.

Now they are trying to act innocent.

A lot more republicans will be doing this.

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