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The media making Weinstein a Clinton scandal is pretty definitive proof that if it wasnt the emails (Original Post) tenderfoot Oct 2017 OP
makes me support her even more..... samnsara Oct 2017 #1
His own wife didn't know--yet Hillary is at fault. Kingofalldems Oct 2017 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Not Ruth Oct 2017 #20
They are the reason the russian propaganda and other bs has influence JI7 Oct 2017 #3
The Russians got it from them malaise Oct 2017 #9
This pisses me off so badly. Some DU'ers feeding at the RW propaganda trough too. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #4
Why all those individuals haven't been banned is a mystery to me. (nt) Paladin Oct 2017 #6
Especially since most are right wing trolls JI7 Oct 2017 #10
Agreed. bobbieinok Oct 2017 #5
And FDR was nearly thrown out via a coup. DK504 Oct 2017 #15
Sad and outrageous that the Republicans tried to build Reagan into an icon. maddiemom Oct 2017 #27
You Forgot Bobby Was Assassinated. That Story Has Never Been Correctly Told. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2017 #51
I'm sure in an alternate universe somewhere.... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 #7
Good grief! She isn't even anything in congress meadowlark5 Oct 2017 #8
The email issue is what stuck because it fed on her image mythology Oct 2017 #11
The fact that Whitewater, robbob Oct 2017 #45
It was never about the emails. nt Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #12
The media should be making Weinstein a Trump scandal UCmeNdc Oct 2017 #13
But trump did give some money to hillarys senate campaign so maybe the media will demand Hillary JI7 Oct 2017 #14
It is a false equivalency story agingdem Oct 2017 #17
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #18
+2 RobinA Oct 2017 #41
It's not about Hillary. Initech Oct 2017 #16
It is about Hollywood, look at Matt and Ben Not Ruth Oct 2017 #22
The republicans want to take down Hollywood. Initech Oct 2017 #23
Does Samantha Bee want to take down Hollywood? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #31
I'm afraid you might be right. Unfortunately, Hollywood handed the Rethugs the rope to hang em with. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #53
Are you suggesting there are no conservatives in the entertainment business? tenderfoot Oct 2017 #54
No, not suggesting that at all... please don't put words in my mouth. Thanks. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #55
McConnell is a snake, and Ryan an ineffectual wimp, maddiemom Oct 2017 #33
It should be a humanity scandal oberliner Oct 2017 #19
I'm still not sure what this story has to do with Hillary IronLionZion Oct 2017 #21
Harvey Weinstein is one of the Democratic Party's most prolific donors oberliner Oct 2017 #36
I got that. I just don't see how it's scandalous for Hillary to have accepted donations IronLionZion Oct 2017 #47
I don't find that to be scandalous oberliner Oct 2017 #50
I thought we knew it wasn't the emails rainin Oct 2017 #24
YES! maddiemom Oct 2017 #25
That's the way it has been for Hillary PatSeg Oct 2017 #26
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It's 100% false that it was to avoid FOI uponit7771 Oct 2017 #32
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No that's your disgusting spin. JHan Oct 2017 #35
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author JHan Oct 2017 #43
Won't fly DownriverDem Oct 2017 #29
K&R. This is an absolute truth. nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #30
The media has long been apologists for people like Trump, Ailes and Weinstein Lithos Oct 2017 #37
The media has made Hillary more accountable than Trump for his own sexual assault scandals.. HipChick Oct 2017 #39
Republicans will try whatever tactics they can to deflect attention away from the shit-show that -Steph- Oct 2017 #40
Democrats are responsible for the actions of donors, while Republicans take money from Russia? L. Coyote Oct 2017 #42
It's crazy. JHan Oct 2017 #44
The Blame Women First Propaganda Machine is Very Real dlk Oct 2017 #46
Seems like the hysterical defense is whats is keeping this going loyalsister Oct 2017 #48
The Republican & now Russian-Trump Progressive dog Oct 2017 #49
Yep. And any "Clinton Caught In Sex Scandal!" sells. ALL Democrats need to say: "This is not a WinkyDink Oct 2017 #52
It's all about Ben Gozzy RainCaster Oct 2017 #56

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emulatorloo

(44,072 posts)
4. This pisses me off so badly. Some DU'ers feeding at the RW propaganda trough too.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:40 AM
Oct 2017

Next we'll hear Hillary and Obama forced Weinstein to abuse those women.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
10. Especially since most are right wing trolls
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:47 AM
Oct 2017

Only attack democrats and only defend republicans

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
5. Agreed.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:42 AM
Oct 2017

Would attack any democrat . No democrat since FDR has been considered a legitimate president. FDR was considered a traitor to his class. JFK was assassinated. And horror of horrors, LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act; the nerve of someone, a prsident no less, thinking 'those people' had any rights!!

DK504

(3,847 posts)
15. And FDR was nearly thrown out via a coup.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:02 AM
Oct 2017

So these "titans of industry" care only about themselves.

Even after the Nixon debacle we still had a chance, then Regan, he set the hatred meter up with his racial garbage and never turned it down. It was always an issue with him, every one but him and his pals were lessers. He made the country believe we were less than and he strolled in and began ripping everything apart.

The media has never done a real expose on the damage he did to the country, I doubt they ever will.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
27. Sad and outrageous that the Republicans tried to build Reagan into an icon.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:02 PM
Oct 2017

It became nauseating. The last good Republican president was Eisenhower, but even Nixon, obsessed with his legacy, did more good and less harm than St. Ronnie in terms of policy.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
7. I'm sure in an alternate universe somewhere....
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:43 AM
Oct 2017

.....they'd be demanding a Congressional investigation regarding President Clinton, demanding with feigned outrage "What did she know and when did she know it?"

Because some realities change, and others don't.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
8. Good grief! She isn't even anything in congress
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:44 AM
Oct 2017

Nothing like aiding and abetting Trump and his deplorables. SHE'S NOT PRESIDENT! She's not a representative, she's not a senator. She is a private citizen now. So what the hell difference does it make if a presidential candidate who lost their election once took donations from a sexual predator? It has no bearing on us as a whole. If she were president, then go ahead and try to make hay out of it. But she's not.

Seems there is plenty of news they could "report" on instead of reaching with Hillary and Weinstein. It's not like the deplorable in chief isn't constantly providing them with shit to ruminate on every minute.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
11. The email issue is what stuck because it fed on her image
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:52 AM
Oct 2017

She was already viewed as edging on the line after things like white water. Whether that was deserved or not is irrelevant. But things like Benghazi didn't. I don't think the Weinstein stuff would stick to Hillary either.

robbob

(3,522 posts)
45. The fact that Whitewater,
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:22 PM
Oct 2017

A failed real estate deal in which the Clintons LOST money, ever became a "scandal" in the first place is a testimony to just how biased the American media really is. Not to mention the corruption of the Repigs, who's first appointed investigator into Whitewater found the Clintons guilty of no wrongdoing, which necessitated the appointment of Ken Starr, who proceeded to take the proceedings into all kinds of bizarre and irrelevant directions searching for some mud that would stick to Bill Clinton.

Many years and much money later he came up with...a blow job.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
14. But trump did give some money to hillarys senate campaign so maybe the media will demand Hillary
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:01 AM
Oct 2017

Apologize for and be held responsible for trumps pussy grabbing .

agingdem

(7,805 posts)
17. It is a false equivalency story
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:16 AM
Oct 2017

and it's a non-story...Harvey Weinstein is a sexual predator...how shocking!...sarcasm intended. When Rachel wastes her precious on-air time on this dreck instead of methodically laying out a case for impeaching the Pussy-Grabber-In-Chief I get pissed and click her off. BTW Hillary is a big girl...she doesn't need us defending her..she needs us to prove her right!!

Initech

(100,043 posts)
16. It's not about Hillary.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:03 AM
Oct 2017

It's about a party that's become so fucking drunk with power that they'll do anything to silence the opposition. Shit, they are that batshit crazy that they'd revoke the first, fourth, and fifth amendments if they could.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
23. The republicans want to take down Hollywood.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:35 AM
Oct 2017

Because, liberal derangement syndrome. Looks like they might get their wish.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
53. I'm afraid you might be right. Unfortunately, Hollywood handed the Rethugs the rope to hang em with.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:15 PM
Oct 2017

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
54. Are you suggesting there are no conservatives in the entertainment business?
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:21 PM
Oct 2017

If so, explain Steve Bannon.

Explain 'The Apprentice'.

Explain 'Keeping Up With The Kardashians'.

Explain Clint Eastwood.

Explain 'Duck Dynasty'.

etc...

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
33. McConnell is a snake, and Ryan an ineffectual wimp,
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:06 PM
Oct 2017

but they still managed to do much harm. I still love to see tRump and Mitch at odds.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. It should be a humanity scandal
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:28 AM
Oct 2017

And a climate should be created where more people feel comfortable enough to tell their own stories about their own Harvey Weinsteins.

People who engage in this behavior need to face consequences. Too many have gotten away with it for too long.

Everyone should be rallying together in the fight to end, or at least curb, the continuing exploitation of young vulnerable women (and men).

Encouraging to see so many people doing that.

We ought to do what we can to help give folks the courage to come forward and tell their own stories so that steps can be taken, where appropriate, to bring the criminals to account and make others think twice about engaging in such reprehensible behavior.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
21. I'm still not sure what this story has to do with Hillary
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:31 AM
Oct 2017

All sorts of people donate money to politicians. We certainly didn't elect Weinstein for president, or to any office.

Should we add a questionnaire to all campaign donations: "Have you ever been a creep?"

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
36. Harvey Weinstein is one of the Democratic Party's most prolific donors
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:19 PM
Oct 2017

Thus, many Democrats, including HRC, have condemned him in the strongest possible terms and are donating money to causes that fight for women

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
47. I got that. I just don't see how it's scandalous for Hillary to have accepted donations
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:24 PM
Oct 2017

She wasn't going around grabbing men's dicks and bragging about getting away with it for being rich and famous. She's no Donald Trump. And she says she didn't know and I believe her.

And we can't screen everyone who donates to political parties. Although if we did, we might ruin the GOP fundraising machine once and for all.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
50. I don't find that to be scandalous
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:46 PM
Oct 2017

Are there non-RW people who do?

I think HRC has handled it exactly right. She gave a strong statement condemning him and pledged to donate whatever money her campaign received from him to women's charities.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
24. I thought we knew it wasn't the emails
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:45 AM
Oct 2017

when the entire trump cabal was discovered to be conducting government business on private email servers. They suddenly stopped caring as soon as he was sworn in.

Has anyone heard it mentioned?

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
25. YES!
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:45 AM
Oct 2017

The guts this woman has showed over the years puts other "politicians" to shame. Nitpicking and "politics as usual" aside, she would have been a strong leader, like her or not.

PatSeg

(47,285 posts)
26. That's the way it has been for Hillary
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:54 AM
Oct 2017

for decades. Few people could endure the endless attacks that she has.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #32)

JHan

(10,173 posts)
35. No that's your disgusting spin.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:13 PM
Oct 2017

It was not to avoid FOI. Just stop. This has been debunked a zillion times.

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Lithos

(26,403 posts)
37. The media has long been apologists for people like Trump, Ailes and Weinstein
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:20 PM
Oct 2017

Makes me think it's a good old boy's club who protect their own.

L-

-Steph-

(409 posts)
40. Republicans will try whatever tactics they can to deflect attention away from the shit-show that
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:23 PM
Oct 2017

is their party. They're constantly flinging crap against the wall to see what sticks. This is just their latest pile. They know there isn't anything that unites their base quicker than their obsessive hatred for Clinton and Obama. Any chance they get to feed that hatred and turn attention away from their own wrongdoings , they're going to run with it, and run with it.. and run with it some more.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
42. Democrats are responsible for the actions of donors, while Republicans take money from Russia?
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:31 PM
Oct 2017

Not to mention, blame the only women in the room for the bad behavior by the worst man in the room!






loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
48. Seems like the hysterical defense is whats is keeping this going
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:25 PM
Oct 2017

The mention of Clinton is a distraction from the pattern of harrassment by men with power. Trump, Cosby, and Weinstein are cut from the same cloth. But, they're just three high profile guys who got caught as it continues unchallenged in ordinary life.

Dismissing what has been exposed as a political attack is a symptom that only benefits the culture that objectifies women to continue. "Who cares about those women, it's all about Hillary" benefits the accused. We shouldn't fall for it.

Progressive dog

(6,899 posts)
49. The Republican & now Russian-Trump
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:29 PM
Oct 2017

political machines have been after HRC, starting with Whitewater and even trying to turn the suicide of Vince Foster into a murder to shut him up.
There is a multi-million dollar industry built around destroying Hillary. Now they are working to prevent her from running again.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
52. Yep. And any "Clinton Caught In Sex Scandal!" sells. ALL Democrats need to say: "This is not a
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:53 PM
Oct 2017

political issue. Mr. Weinstein is not a politician. Taking money from Russia and Putin IS a political issue."

RainCaster

(10,842 posts)
56. It's all about Ben Gozzy
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:59 PM
Oct 2017

or whoever that guy is that help Hillary get an email account that wasn't hacked.

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