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Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:27 PM Oct 2017

At the risk of sounding victim blaming

Why the he'll didn't Gwenith Paltrow or Angelina Jolie do anything to help Harvey Weinstein 's other victims? These women became powerful in Holllywood and never lifted a finger to out this pervert. WHY? WHY? Women needed their help ans they did nothing after they became powerful.

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madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
1. You don't know what they did privately.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:29 PM
Oct 2017

Maybe they did warn others. Things could have been done without going to the media.

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JI7

(89,248 posts)
4. because it's not just Weinstein. it's the industry . and not even just that industry but it happens
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:56 PM
Oct 2017

in so many places that there is a sort of "acceptance" about it. maybe not acceptance but it's expected and people just see it as how things are .

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
6. It's good to be king
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:20 AM
Oct 2017

If Gwyneth Paltrow, daughter of well known director and well known actress, girl friend of Brad Pitt, was not safe from sexual blackmail, no one was. When she told Brad Pitt and he warned Weinstein not to touch her, she was berated continually by Weinstein. No one could touch him. Even scarier, What is a no-name actress to do? Go home and get groped by her manager at the Walmart?

We can say it is love of money but Hollywood is full of people trying to gain power to free themselves from the power of others.

I've never been brave. I have to forgive others who are not brave.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
7. i think Weinstein started to target mostly lesser known types . and maybe even purposely those
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:24 AM
Oct 2017

who are not likely to get a career in hollywood either way.

but he made them think he could do something for them . they could be the next gwyneth, next jennifer lawrence etc.

and they wouldn't have a famous boyfriend or someone else with the power to tell him off.





MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
9. J17 is onto something
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:37 AM
Oct 2017

I think you are right. Anonymous victims who turn to alcohol or drugs to numb the feelings of humiliation.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
11. I just read an autobiography of a 40s B actress (vintage book)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:13 AM
Oct 2017

and my eyes fell out of my head .The way women actors were passed around from studio execs to leading men and their cronies as a matter of course was just stunning. I really felt sick.

And yet here we still are.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
5. Focus on the abuser
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:09 AM
Oct 2017

They did not speak out because they were weak. Which is why they were chosen. A calculation on the part on the harasser that she won't want to lose her role; his assistant doesn't want to get fired; his business partners do not want to give up the money; the stockholders don't want to lose money; the politicians don't want to return the contributions; good people don't want to put his employees out of jobs; charities want the funds; liberals don't want to lose elections; the abused person does not want to hurt his family or her family; shame; embarrassment; fear of retribution.

What's clear is that abuser is more than willing to let all of these bad things happen just for the thrill of humiliating someone.

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
8. Sometimes women warn each other privately.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:26 AM
Oct 2017

That is the best that can be done. It is the same in other types of businesses.

It looks like things are changing. I am glad for that.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
10. It's very important to understand that each an every woman is isolated from the others.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:41 AM
Oct 2017

Each one feels totally alone, that she's the only one this has happened to. They almost never have any clue that it's happened to others, and even if they think it has, how can they possibly know who those women are?

Speaking from experience. Someone harasses you. Some man exposes himself to you. It happens to you and only you at the time. Trust me, it is incredibly easy to feel that you can't speak up, and you think what's happened is a one off. It can take a very long time to find out it's not.

Plus, for a very long time, if a woman accused a man of rape, then her entire sexual history was made public, as if that mattered. So few women were ever willing to step up and make the accusation.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
12. I know I will be flamed for this, but...
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:18 AM
Oct 2017

He raised millions for the Democratic Party, and would never be brought to justice while the Democrats were in power. Not that Barack Obama or any leading Democrat covered for him. I don't believe they did, in any way overt or covert. It's just that they were the power structure and his position as part of their money machine protected him.

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