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Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:06 AM Oct 2017

Russia Recruited YouTubers to Bash Racist B*tch Hillary Clinton Over Rap Beats

This is pretty disgusting & scary.

Russia Recruited YouTubers to Bash ‘Racist B*tch’ Hillary Clinton Over Rap Beats
www.thedailybeast.com/russia-recruited-youtubers-to-bash-racist-btch-hillary-clinton-over-rap-beats

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Williams and Kalvin’s content was pulled from Facebook in August after it was identified as a Russian government-backed propaganda account, The Daily Beast has confirmed with multiple sources familiar with the account and the reasons for its removal. Williams and Kalvin’s account was also suspended from Twitter in August. But the YouTube page for Williams and Kalvin remains live at press time.
.....
Videos published by Williams and Kalvin in late 2016, especially in October, often engaged in fever swamp theories about Hillary Clinton and in some cases promoting Donald Trump directly.
One specific video published in October, prior to the presidential election, refers to Hillary Clinton as an “old racist bitch.”
“She’s a fucking racist,” the host says over a subdued rap beat. “And this woman is a witch,” he says as a picture portrays Clinton in Wizard of Oz attire. He goes on to praise Julian Assange for releasing hacked emails. “This woman, she’s sick on her head.”
Other videos are more explicit about urging people to vote for Trump.
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The pair also promoted a shirt labeling Bill Clinton as a rapist in an October video called “A word of truth about a rapist’s wife.”
“To say the truth, Bill Clinton is a rapist. And there is a lot of fact to prove it,” the host says, before saying the Clintons are “serial killers and they are going to rape the whole nation.”
The video concludes with the line: “We have to do all we can to not allow this racist bitch to become the next president.”
In an August video, one of the hosts explicitly endorses the movie Clinton Cash and begins the video by saying, “I support Bernie Sanders.” “Today is old bitch Clinton time,” the host says before a title card informs people watching that the film will premiere the day prior to the Democratic National Convention.
The rest of the video is an advertisement for the movie, which was based on a book mostly consisting of research from a nonprofit investigative research outfit founded by Breitbart editor Peter Schweizer and Breitbart CEO and ousted White House chief strategist Steve Bannon.






NOTE: Title of OP is from the article. I would never use these words for HRC, the most qualified candidate in my life and a woman who I admire and who I want to speak on anything whatever she desires!
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Russia Recruited YouTubers to Bash Racist B*tch Hillary Clinton Over Rap Beats (Original Post) Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 OP
Is it coincidence these Kremlin 'activists' echoed conspiracies floated by Roger Stones of d world? Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #1
Precisely. dalton99a Oct 2017 #10
The Kremlin operation used real people, not just memes and hijacked hashtags. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #2
They were obviously and overtly lackeys but its good we have proof now uponit7771 Oct 2017 #41
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??? Say more... Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #4
Youtube isn't the government RockaFowler Oct 2017 #5
Do you think that propaganda from another country brer cat Oct 2017 #6
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You seem to misunderstand the 1st Amendment... WePurrsevere Oct 2017 #7
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The point is not what they said. The point is that they lied about who they are. DetlefK Oct 2017 #8
Not that it matters in this instance, but lying in general does not run afoul of 1A. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2017 #11
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very weak minds. Dumbed down frivolous culture isn't strong enough to uphold America lostnfound Oct 2017 #15
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Zombies wouldn't throw a fit over "Obamacare" but be OK with "Affordable Care Act" ck4829 Oct 2017 #25
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What difference does it make? Refugees admitted in America are worthy of assistance. LonePirate Oct 2017 #33
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Not legislate, but what? Wake them up? Teach civics again? Mock the emptiness? Warning labels? lostnfound Oct 2017 #27
"Paid speeches becomes oligarchy" JHan Oct 2017 #43
That is only true if people are permitted to make an informed decision. DetlefK Oct 2017 #16
Do people REALLY have their own minds though? ck4829 Oct 2017 #20
Nah. Truth is we really do know who is behind that. The Russian ad buys & Web Brigades are Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #31
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moot Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #37
YouTube s a private company. They have a right to choose who uses their platform. yardwork Oct 2017 #13
I'm an administrator at another forum, one that has nothing to do with politics. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2017 #14
Misinterpreting Censorship and the First Amendment whathehell Oct 2017 #18
I do not think it is a slippery slope of censorship when it is foreign adversary--Russia who riversedge Oct 2017 #28
Calling out this poster. moda253 Oct 2017 #34
Looks like MIRT got him/her. Must have been a deplorable or a JPR type. LonePirate Oct 2017 #39
Did they get yanked from youtube? orangecrush Oct 2017 #17
Youtube Channel for Williams and Kalvin... TomVilmer Oct 2017 #29
Thanks orangecrush Oct 2017 #30
Delusional... syringis Oct 2017 #19
We had posters on this site riffing on that theme Generic Brad Oct 2017 #22
Yeah, some people inclined to support a certain candidate on the left spouted that racist hogwash. LonePirate Oct 2017 #38
K&R Gothmog Oct 2017 #21
Google's got to do more to combat hate speech. Initech Oct 2017 #24
Makes me think Russia may have very well bankrolled the "Gary Forbes" social media account Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 #40
Thanks for this information & for your link to your 2016!!!!!!! OP! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #45
K&R sheshe2 Oct 2017 #42
K&R JHan Oct 2017 #44
This shows again how extensive Trump/GOP and Russians were working together rockfordfile Oct 2017 #46
Yes, & it sounds that it all started sometime in 2015, earlier than some think. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #48
K&R Jamaal510 Oct 2017 #47
Kicking! Rachel Maddow reported on this article last night! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #49
 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
1. Is it coincidence these Kremlin 'activists' echoed conspiracies floated by Roger Stones of d world?
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:08 AM
Oct 2017
Is it a coincidence that these Kremlin 'activists' echoed conspiracies floated by the Roger Stones of the world?





 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
2. The Kremlin operation used real people, not just memes and hijacked hashtags.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:18 AM
Oct 2017



Russia Recruited YouTubers to Bash ‘Racist B*tch’ Hillary Clinton
Wannabe YouTube stars and diehard Donald Trump supporters ‘Williams & Kalvin’ totally swear they’re from Atlanta. In reality, they were working for the Kremlin.


UGH!

Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

brer cat

(24,666 posts)
6. Do you think that propaganda from another country
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:55 AM
Oct 2017

determined to create division and undermine our election process is "democratic" and protected by the 1st Amendment? This is a slippery slope.

Response to brer cat (Reply #6)

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
7. You seem to misunderstand the 1st Amendment...
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 07:11 AM
Oct 2017
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


The above is our cherished 1st Amendment. The 1st Amendment is about our government restricting religion, speech, press & protest. It is NOT about a business or a private citizen doing so and the last time I checked Facebook is still a business with terms of use and a right to kick to the curb anyone that doesn't reflect what they want associated with their business. Basically it's a case of "your house, your rules... my house, my rules".

Response to WePurrsevere (Reply #7)

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
8. The point is not what they said. The point is that they lied about who they are.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 07:15 AM
Oct 2017

They impersonated two African-Americans from the US. Who bashed Hillary and hyped Trump.

Do impostors have a 1st Amendment right to lie about who they are?

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,768 posts)
11. Not that it matters in this instance, but lying in general does not run afoul of 1A.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 07:27 AM
Oct 2017

I am on an extremely slow connection today. I'm sure that if you look this up, you will find that those guys who put on all the ribbons and claim to be veterans do not violate any provisions of the Constitution.

If they put it on their résumés and they're caught and not hired as a result, that's their problem. But having a fake résumé is not a violation of the First Amendment.

I'm sure I can cite case law for this, but I'm on dial-up now. Yes, really.

Hat tip for inventing the word "fake," *****.

Response to DetlefK (Reply #8)

lostnfound

(16,203 posts)
15. very weak minds. Dumbed down frivolous culture isn't strong enough to uphold America
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 07:50 AM
Oct 2017

The torch has been dropped.

Response to lostnfound (Reply #15)

ck4829

(35,097 posts)
25. Zombies wouldn't throw a fit over "Obamacare" but be OK with "Affordable Care Act"
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:31 AM
Oct 2017

Zombies wouldn't shrug their shoulders and say "Oh well, what can you do?" in response to a mass shooter... as long as that shooter is white and not Muslim.

Zombies wouldn't make the choice of saying "all lives matter" but then apparently go into hiding when refugees need help.

Response to ck4829 (Reply #25)

Response to LonePirate (Reply #33)

lostnfound

(16,203 posts)
27. Not legislate, but what? Wake them up? Teach civics again? Mock the emptiness? Warning labels?
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:33 AM
Oct 2017

Is there a fundamental difference between paid speech and free speech? I think that perhaps there should be a distinction. Paid speech becomes oligarchy, or worse, unless the public is literate and/or inoculated against the propaganda.

On edit: to clarify, the distinction I mean is not to make paid speech illegal. It's is simply to call it what it is, which is paid advertising.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
16. That is only true if people are permitted to make an informed decision.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 07:56 AM
Oct 2017

For example: RT does not lie per se. And yet they lie in almost every single article they write or video they produce.

RT lies by consistently keeping information from their readers that would threaten the narrative RT wants to push. RT presents only one side of the story, so their readers simply cannot be informed thinkers.
RT looooooooved writing about the US bombing Raqqa, but didn't give a fuck about Syria bombing Aleppo.
RT loooooooooooves writing about poverty and police-brutality in the US, but you won't find any hint on RT about poverty and police-brutality in Russia.
RT based an article on an Amnesty International report that condemned the syrian rebels for torturing prisoners. RT left unmentioned that that very same report also condemned Russia's best pal Assad for systemic torture.

RT lies consistently by mixing verified truth with unverified rumors, thereby elevating these unverified rumors to the same status as verified truths. It's technically not a lie, but RT is again intentionally misinforming their readers, so they simply cannot be informed thinkers.
For example, on RT it's perfectly normal to "ask questions" about whether the US are actually in control of ISIS and using them to take over Syria.

ck4829

(35,097 posts)
20. Do people REALLY have their own minds though?
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 08:40 AM
Oct 2017

Confirmation bias and other biases and distortions, binary/dichotomy systems, people flashing their credentials or 'credentials' around like a flare, and more need to be rejected... the problem is, it's easy to think this way.

People are always looking for information that gives them a boost, the first bit of information. This is confirmation bias. People are always citing the Dow Jones as a sign that something is good or bad. This is the same Dow Jones that predicted a "quick Iraq war" by the way. In fact, I've got another tab open on my browser right now that has an "alt-news" site citing the stock market as proof of something going right in their opinion.

When you're given a dichotomy ("Love it or leave it" for example), you're being told how to think. There is no mass rejection of this.

Believing something just because it is reported by the "alt-news" and not something "mainstream news" reports is another example of a person not using their own minds.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,088 posts)
31. Nah. Truth is we really do know who is behind that. The Russian ad buys & Web Brigades are
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:56 AM
Oct 2017

The Russian ad buys & Web Brigades are well established facts.

The reich wing would like to have us believe otherwise, in order to muddy the waters.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #31)

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,768 posts)
14. I'm an administrator at another forum, one that has nothing to do with politics.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 07:43 AM
Oct 2017

DUers, I understand that if you read my posts here, you will find it hard to imagine that I do, in fact, have a life outside DU. Some people at DU, I'm not so sure about, but let's not get into that now.

Anyway....

I yank people off all the time. I censor them and suppress their information.

Gee, all they want to do is let us know about a really swell plumber in Pittsburgh or a website where I can buy cheap NFL jerseys or a place that will turn out essays for me.

They're called spammers. I ban them without batting an eye. I couldn't be prouder of what I do. They violated the terms of service (TOS), so out they got. Hasta la vista, baby.

They have all the "free speach" I say they can have, which is none. I sleep comfortably at night.

Welcome to DU.

whathehell

(29,113 posts)
18. Misinterpreting Censorship and the First Amendment
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 08:05 AM
Oct 2017

Censorship concerns ONLY the government -- You can't be arrested for your comments but PLEASE understand that YouTube, Facebook and other commercial, non-governmental entities have no "right" to publish anything on their platforms. The owners can deny anything for any reason.

riversedge

(70,474 posts)
28. I do not think it is a slippery slope of censorship when it is foreign adversary--Russia who
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:43 AM
Oct 2017

is doing the ads--with the motive of interfering with our election.

I think of Donald Jr and his meeting in Trump tower. He thinks it is OK since he claims he did not get any dirt on Clinton. But that misses the point of he loved meeting with a foreign adversary --Russia --!! (whether he got any dirt or not is not the issue)!!

 

moda253

(615 posts)
34. Calling out this poster.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:00 AM
Oct 2017

Your posts here have all been undermining the stories and opinions shared here.

Watch this one folks.

orangecrush

(19,677 posts)
17. Did they get yanked from youtube?
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 08:02 AM
Oct 2017

I just went there looking for them, wanted to ask them how much Moscow paid them in the comments section, but can't find the page.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
29. Youtube Channel for Williams and Kalvin...
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:45 AM
Oct 2017
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSbzPCwUDPvDCR6VRaOcDtg/videos

... but this story seems to be just a bit oversold, since each video only had a few hundred views - even after being mentioned by The Daily Beast for the video "The truth about elections". Nobody smart would invest anything in those boys.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
19. Delusional...
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 08:19 AM
Oct 2017

1 - Hillary a f*cking racist b*tch?
2 - Who, being half normal will believe that ?

Besides Trump's lovers of course. They are hopeless cases anyway...

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
22. We had posters on this site riffing on that theme
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:02 AM
Oct 2017

Those words were not used. But the sentiment was.

This is a variation of the racist indictment against her because she said "Super Predators " one day back in the 1990's. That comment was taken out of context and continuously bandied about here as evidence that she was racist.

LonePirate

(13,448 posts)
38. Yeah, some people inclined to support a certain candidate on the left spouted that racist hogwash.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:07 AM
Oct 2017

All sorts of people were targeted during last year’s election and I don’t think the culprits acted independently.

Initech

(100,152 posts)
24. Google's got to do more to combat hate speech.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:14 AM
Oct 2017

Not just the videos posted on YouTube, but the comments on nearly every left leaning political video are just brutal. Something needs to be done.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,235 posts)
40. Makes me think Russia may have very well bankrolled the "Gary Forbes" social media account
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:27 AM
Oct 2017

In case you haven't heard of "Gary Forbes", he was/is a former new-aged pianist/inspirational speaker/author (without any substantial success in any of those departments) out of upstate New York whose name is actually Gary Pasquariello.

At his height during the Republican primaries, his account had over 10,000 followers and was being retweeted all over social media, including by Trump himself (as well as several other notable personalities such as Ann Coulter). He claimed to be the CEO of something called The Forbes Group with a staff of assistants, but there was no proof any such organization or any of the alleged staff actually existed.

Most of his tweets would simply be slides, containing either Trump slogans (with Trump's "Make America Great Again" logo at the bottom), alleged endorsements (many of them false, such as aviation legend Chuck Yeager who never actually endorsed Trump) or ridiculous sounding claims, such as claiming that Trump was a genius in the 99.999th IQ percentile.

His slides would go out on a repeating, random basis, meaning it was probably distributed by a bot system. His personal missives were distributed on a weekly basis and got to the point where they were somewhat malicious (even threatening GOP delegates who might vote against Trump at the convention). Eventually, his original Twitter account was suspended for reasons unknown. He since created an alternate Twitter account that is still active, although with not nearly as many followers.

You can read more about Forbes/Pasquariello from what I found out about him in March 2016 while the primaries were still on going:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10027708476

I doubt an out-of-work pianist/inspirational speaker would have the money resources to push such a massive propaganda operation, so someone had to be funding the guy.

rockfordfile

(8,712 posts)
46. This shows again how extensive Trump/GOP and Russians were working together
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 02:49 PM
Oct 2017

The Russians went out of their way to help Trump. Trump knows these guys well and particular Russians know Trump. He's like a member of the family.

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