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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI wonder if they did an autopsy on Paddock?
Specifically of the brain to see if there was a tumor or other physical disease.
Provided he didn't destroy it at suicide.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)I'm assuming he did it the way most of them do.
Not trying to be grotesque, just seriously asking.
gun to the roof of the mouth based on photo and description.
His face was remarkably intact - don't know about the brain.
LisaL
(44,985 posts)pnwmom
(109,025 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)pamela
(3,469 posts)He had to have a motive or a tumor or blah, blah, blah. So fucking sick of this. Et tu, DU?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)pamela
(3,469 posts)I was being sarcastic.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)https://www.thedailybeast.com/drag-queen-anti-gay-terrorist-omar-mateen-was-my-friend
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)It would be a very glaring omission to not to.
Tox results may be interesting.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)was that he was a high stakes gambler and he won most of the time. But have they checked with his banks and credit card companies to see what his current status is? I heard yesterday that he was betting $1000 a hand on video poker. He could have lost a lot of money on a video machine without attracting the amount of attention he would have otherwise had he been at a table with a Dealer present. If he was on a losing streak, he could have lost a lot of money in a short period of time.
LisaL
(44,985 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)majority from gambling
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)a lot of money in a short period of time when he's gambling, drinking and distracted with plans of killing lots of people.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Trust me on this one.
p.s. I've already heard that tell-tale "We might just never know" in more than one language.
DFW
(54,519 posts)I knew a guy in Dallas that was fired from his job because he had gotten undependable and erratic in his work. He died a year later from a brain tumor. No one at his workplace thought to have a guy examined for that, even though his transformation was sudden and completely out of character.
yardwork
(61,809 posts)I dont consider it out of character for somebody to use the weapons they stockpiled.
He used his weapons for their intended purpose.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)tumor or tumors without the pain that usually accompanies it. My S-I-L suffered for more than two years. Had treatments which shrunk the tumors but they eventually came back in mass. She couldn't ignore the pain and debilitating medications for the pain left her unable to do much but stay in bed because she was weak and didn't want to fall and further injure herself.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and even at that young age...had similar pattern...tumor and his medications left him with a unsteady gait...when he walked he appeared as though he was drunk, let along holding a gun..
mitch96
(13,948 posts)The doc's treated her for macular degeneration. She started to get slight headaches and the doc ordered a CT scan.. HUGE benign meningeoma.. They talked her into surgery (67 years old). Came out a vegetable and died five years later. You can never tell.. I just thought some of her statements on things were weird..
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csziggy
(34,141 posts)And was functional up to the end.
Investigating officers found that Whitman had visited several University doctors in the year before the shootings; they prescribed various medications for him. Whitman had seen a minimum of five doctors between the fall and winter of 1965, before he visited a psychiatrist from whom he received no prescription. At some other time he was prescribed Valium by Dr. Jan Cochrum, who recommended he visit the campus psychiatrist.[49]
Whitman met with Dr. Maurice Dean Heatly, the staff psychiatrist at the University of Texas Health Center, on March 29, 1966.[50] Whitman referred to his visit with Heatly in his final suicide note, writing, "I talked with a Doctor once for about two hours and tried to convey to him my fears that I felt come [sic] overwhelming violent impulses. After one visit, I never saw the Doctor again, and since then have been fighting my mental turmoil alone, and seemingly to no avail."[40]
Heatly's notes on the visit said, "This massive, muscular youth seemed to be oozing with hostility [...] that something seemed to be happening to him and that he didn't seem to be himself."[51] "He readily admits having overwhelming periods of hostility with a very minimum of provocation. Repeated inquiries attempting to analyze his exact experiences were not too successful with the exception of his vivid reference to 'thinking about going up on the tower with a deer rifle and start shooting people.'"[52]
Autopsy
Although Whitman had been prescribed drugs, and was in possession of Dexedrine at the time of his death, no toxicology test was performed at first because Whitman had been embalmed on August 1, after the body was brought to the Cook Funeral Home in Austin. However, an autopsy had been requested in the suicide notes left by Whitman, and was then approved by his father.[53]
On August 2, an autopsy was conducted by Dr. Chenar (a neuropathologist at Austin State Hospital) at the funeral home. Urine and blood were removed to test for traces of amphetamines or other substances.[54] During the autopsy, Chenar discovered a "pecan-sized" brain tumor, which he labeled an astrocytoma and which exhibited a small amount of necrosis. Chenar concluded that the tumor had no effect on Whitman's actions, but this result was later revised by the Connally Commission.[55]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman#Medical_history
The effects of a brain tumor depend entirely on the location in the brain. My sister died of a glioblastoma multiforma. Her initial symptoms were severe headaches. Once the first tumor mass was removed she was fully functional for several months, then the regrowth caused damage to the parietal region of the brain and she lost language ability. She could understand what was said to her and attempt to respond but the wrong words would come out. She could even understand that what she said was wrong but was unable to correct herself. Even close to the end she was physically able to do things, but her mental abilities had been suppressed as the tumor eventually filled her prefrontal cortex.
DFW
(54,519 posts)He had occasional epileptic fits but no pain. It is one kind of cancer that definitely does not have a universal manifestation.
Skittles
(153,314 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)It is a problem at gun ranges, so cops can be lead poisoned too.
yellerpup
(12,254 posts)Also the level of drugs in his system.
Initech
(100,151 posts)I really want to know what made this guy snap.