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Why do so many men think it's okay to discriminate against women's (Original Post) onecaliberal Oct 2017 OP
Because they don't want women to be autonomous human beings. They want to control them. SharonAnn Oct 2017 #1
Same reason Saudis didn't want women and drive and still won't give full personhood. SharonAnn Oct 2017 #2
It's been going on for thousands and thousands of years. lunatica Oct 2017 #3
Edit to delete white onecaliberal Oct 2017 #5
I just wonder how we will make it another 3 1/2 yrs marlakay Oct 2017 #4
Because they are men that choose to remain ignorant. Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #6
Because its about control cagefreesoylentgreen Oct 2017 #7
An interesting paper on the concept of forced pregnancy as slavery. CrispyQ Oct 2017 #17
Thank you! cagefreesoylentgreen Oct 2017 #20
When you're used to privilege, equality looks like oppression. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #8
This! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #13
Man created God to control woman. CrispyQ Oct 2017 #9
Very, very frightened men created God to control women. Squinch Oct 2017 #14
I find it interesting that even though men come into the world from women's bodies, CrispyQ Oct 2017 #18
There is no gender to stupid. And I never thought of that as the co-opting of women's ability Squinch Oct 2017 #21
Its a means to an end. procon Oct 2017 #10
So we're no further ahead in our OWN REPRODUCTIVE rights then Saudi Arabia a kennedy Oct 2017 #11
A better question to ask is why so many women feel the same way Major Nikon Oct 2017 #12
A better question is edhopper Oct 2017 #15
That is the $100,000 dollar question. onecaliberal Oct 2017 #16
Supremacists will be supremacists HAB911 Oct 2017 #19

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
3. It's been going on for thousands and thousands of years.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 05:27 PM
Oct 2017

It's a control issue thing. And it's not just white men.

marlakay

(11,425 posts)
4. I just wonder how we will make it another 3 1/2 yrs
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 05:28 PM
Oct 2017

Its too the point I am afraid to check the news, everyday its something bad. Ruining the environment, taking away national park space, endangering animals, treating women and any minority like crap.

I wish there was a way women could power up but seeing how many women followed their husband in the middle states to vote for Trump makes me wonder about my fellow women!

I fear next he will ruin us financially by giving big tax breaks to the rich.



7. Because its about control
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 05:42 PM
Oct 2017

It’s about getting those uppity women back under the thumb of male control. It’s about pumping out unwanted children, forcing women into a state not far removed from slavery.

CrispyQ

(36,421 posts)
17. An interesting paper on the concept of forced pregnancy as slavery.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:13 AM
Oct 2017
2010
Forced Labor, Revisited: The Thirteenth
Amendment and Abortion
Andrew Koppelman

http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1031&context=facultyworkingpapers

My claim is that the amendment is violated by laws that prohibit abortion. When
women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to "involuntary
servitude" in violation of the amendment.
Abortion prohibitions violate the
Amendment's guarantee of personal liberty, because forced pregnancy and childbirth, by
compelling the woman to serve the fetus, creates "that control by which the personal
service of one man [sic] is disposed of or coerced for another's benefit which is the
essence of involuntary servitude."6

Such laws violate the amendment's guarantee of
equality, because forcing women to be mothers makes them into a servant caste, a group
which, by virtue of a status of birth, is held subject to a special duty to serve others and
not themselves.

This argument makes available two responses to the standard defense of such
prohibitions, the claim that the fetus is a person. The first is that even if this is so, its
right to the continued aid of the woman does not follow. As Judith Jarvis Thomson
observes, "having a right to life does not guarantee having either a right to be given the
use of or a right to be allowed continued use of another person's body -- even if one needs
it for life itself."7

Giving fetuses a legal right to the continued use of their mothers'
bodies would be precisely what the Thirteenth Amendment forbids. The second response
is that since abortion prohibitions infringe on the fundamental right to be free of
involuntary servitude, the burden is on the state to show that the violation of this right is
justified. Since the thesis that the fetus is, or should at least be considered, a person
seems impossible to prove (or to refute), this is a burden that the state cannot carry. If we
are not certain that the fetus is a person, then the mere possibility that it might be is not
enough to justify violating women's Thirteenth Amendment rights by forcing them to be
mothers.


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Squinch

(50,911 posts)
14. Very, very frightened men created God to control women.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 08:20 PM
Oct 2017

Your observation is really astute.

And we can never underestimate the unexamined hatred that many men hold for women because women have something they want.

CrispyQ

(36,421 posts)
18. I find it interesting that even though men come into the world from women's bodies,
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:20 AM
Oct 2017

in the creation story, they reversed it & so that woman came from a man's rib. I talked to a grown woman a few years ago who believed that men have one less rib than women. It's very sad that so many women have bought into this line of crap that we are the weak, submissive gender.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
21. There is no gender to stupid. And I never thought of that as the co-opting of women's ability
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:48 PM
Oct 2017

to give birth. BUT OF COURSE IT IS!

Isn't it amazing when things stare you in the face all your life and then someone points them out?

Thanks for that one!

procon

(15,805 posts)
10. Its a means to an end.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 06:18 PM
Oct 2017

Women can't get science based sex ed, they can't get birth control or have an abortion, that leaves them with one option; government enforced pregnancies. A pregnant woman is less likely to finish her education or even find a job.

American women could end up no different than women in Saudi Arabia or India, dependent on some authoritarian man for her very existence.

a kennedy

(29,615 posts)
11. So we're no further ahead in our OWN REPRODUCTIVE rights then Saudi Arabia
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 06:21 PM
Oct 2017

is with lots of their ridiculous laws banning women for damn near everything......oh right they get to drive in what 2020???

edhopper

(33,479 posts)
15. A better question is
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 08:24 PM
Oct 2017

why do women vote for them.

Any woman who voted for the predator in chief should be ashamed.

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