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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy do so many men think it's okay to discriminate against women's
Reproductive health by denying access to birth control based on religious liberty? I guess viagra doesn't offend their delicate religion.
Edit: auto correct crazy.
SharonAnn
(13,771 posts)SharonAnn
(13,771 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)It's a control issue thing. And it's not just white men.
onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)marlakay
(11,425 posts)Its too the point I am afraid to check the news, everyday its something bad. Ruining the environment, taking away national park space, endangering animals, treating women and any minority like crap.
I wish there was a way women could power up but seeing how many women followed their husband in the middle states to vote for Trump makes me wonder about my fellow women!
I fear next he will ruin us financially by giving big tax breaks to the rich.
Freethinker65
(9,999 posts)cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)Its about getting those uppity women back under the thumb of male control. Its about pumping out unwanted children, forcing women into a state not far removed from slavery.
CrispyQ
(36,421 posts)Forced Labor, Revisited: The Thirteenth
Amendment and Abortion
Andrew Koppelman
http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1031&context=facultyworkingpapers
My claim is that the amendment is violated by laws that prohibit abortion. When
women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to "involuntary
servitude" in violation of the amendment. Abortion prohibitions violate the
Amendment's guarantee of personal liberty, because forced pregnancy and childbirth, by
compelling the woman to serve the fetus, creates "that control by which the personal
service of one man [sic] is disposed of or coerced for another's benefit which is the
essence of involuntary servitude."6
Such laws violate the amendment's guarantee of
equality, because forcing women to be mothers makes them into a servant caste, a group
which, by virtue of a status of birth, is held subject to a special duty to serve others and
not themselves.
This argument makes available two responses to the standard defense of such
prohibitions, the claim that the fetus is a person. The first is that even if this is so, its
right to the continued aid of the woman does not follow. As Judith Jarvis Thomson
observes, "having a right to life does not guarantee having either a right to be given the
use of or a right to be allowed continued use of another person's body -- even if one needs
it for life itself."7
Giving fetuses a legal right to the continued use of their mothers'
bodies would be precisely what the Thirteenth Amendment forbids. The second response
is that since abortion prohibitions infringe on the fundamental right to be free of
involuntary servitude, the burden is on the state to show that the violation of this right is
justified. Since the thesis that the fetus is, or should at least be considered, a person
seems impossible to prove (or to refute), this is a burden that the state cannot carry. If we
are not certain that the fetus is a person, then the mere possibility that it might be is not
enough to justify violating women's Thirteenth Amendment rights by forcing them to be
mothers.
more at link
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cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)And thanks for the link!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,587 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)CrispyQ
(36,421 posts)Too bad so many women fell for it.
Squinch
(50,911 posts)Your observation is really astute.
And we can never underestimate the unexamined hatred that many men hold for women because women have something they want.
CrispyQ
(36,421 posts)in the creation story, they reversed it & so that woman came from a man's rib. I talked to a grown woman a few years ago who believed that men have one less rib than women. It's very sad that so many women have bought into this line of crap that we are the weak, submissive gender.
Squinch
(50,911 posts)to give birth. BUT OF COURSE IT IS!
Isn't it amazing when things stare you in the face all your life and then someone points them out?
Thanks for that one!
procon
(15,805 posts)Women can't get science based sex ed, they can't get birth control or have an abortion, that leaves them with one option; government enforced pregnancies. A pregnant woman is less likely to finish her education or even find a job.
American women could end up no different than women in Saudi Arabia or India, dependent on some authoritarian man for her very existence.
a kennedy
(29,615 posts)is with lots of their ridiculous laws banning women for damn near everything......oh right they get to drive in what 2020???
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)edhopper
(33,479 posts)why do women vote for them.
Any woman who voted for the predator in chief should be ashamed.
onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)HAB911
(8,867 posts)Women will submit to their form of Christianity if it kills us all