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Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:54 PM

 

Sanders should stop arguing for singel payer system at the debate - taking focus of fixing ACA

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Reply Sanders should stop arguing for singel payer system at the debate - taking focus of fixing ACA (Original post)
factfinder_77 Sep 2017 OP
Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #1
Madam Mossfern Sep 2017 #2
pnwmom Sep 2017 #5
factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #12
Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #24
Ninsianna Sep 2017 #40
Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #43
Arazi Sep 2017 #3
unc70 Sep 2017 #4
Ace Rothstein Sep 2017 #7
lovemydogs Sep 2017 #13
factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #16
Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #25
factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #30
Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #31
factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #32
Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #33
karynnj Sep 2017 #35
HopeAgain Sep 2017 #6
PatsFan87 Sep 2017 #8
bettyellen Sep 2017 #28
Ninsianna Sep 2017 #41
Gothmog Sep 2017 #9
Agschmid Sep 2017 #10
dflprincess Sep 2017 #11
pnwmom Sep 2017 #14
HerbChestnut Sep 2017 #18
TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #20
pnwmom Sep 2017 #27
dflprincess Sep 2017 #22
Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #26
lovemydogs Sep 2017 #15
Ron Green Sep 2017 #17
TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #23
Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2017 #38
aikoaiko Sep 2017 #19
Xolodno Sep 2017 #21
MuseRider Sep 2017 #29
mjvpi Sep 2017 #34
m-lekktor Sep 2017 #36
JCanete Sep 2017 #37
hedda_foil Sep 2017 #39
Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #42
aikoaiko Sep 2017 #44
Autumn Sep 2017 #45
Vinca Sep 2017 #46

Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:55 PM

1. Lol

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:55 PM

2. He's doing both

Some people can walk and chew gum.

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Response to Madam Mossfern (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:01 PM

5. He leaves himself wide open for repeated attacks from Graham and Cassidy that the Democrats

know that the ACA has collapsed and that the Dems are really trying to push through single payer.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:11 PM

12. excatcly

 

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:36 PM

24. Democrats have been saying for YEARS that the ACA needs to be fixed.

They have offered to work with the Rs to make those fixes. Are you going to cast blame on everyone that has said that over the years, too, or just Sanders. Don't bother, I know the answer.

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Response to Madam Mossfern (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 26, 2017, 04:54 AM

40. He wasn't. Some people cannot walk and chew gum at the same time,

and he was letting their lies about ACA go unanswered while he banged on about his own plan and interrupted Klobuchar when she was set to answer their attacks.

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Response to Madam Mossfern (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 26, 2017, 07:21 AM

43. This was my fear, and I knew he would do it. You cannot defend the ACA and promote MFA

effectively...we can only hope that Graham's real argument that this is the last chance to stop MFA/socialized medicare does not sway wavering GOP senators. I watched a few minutes and could not stand it. The theme should have been. We need to improve and save the ACA which has helped millions receive coverage. When single payer was brought up. "As, you know I do promote single payer but that is not tonight's topic." would have sufficed. We needed to focus on the ACA...he fell into Graham's trap...don't know how much (if any) damage was done.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:56 PM

3. Lol, dude, he's doing both. Brilliantly

GCH is dead. Time to grab the microphone!

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:00 PM

4. What debate are you watching?

You really canít give it a rest, can you?

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Response to unc70 (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:02 PM

7. The Bernie haters will never stop.

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Response to Ace Rothstein (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:12 PM

13. I don't get why the haters cannot let their hate go.

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Response to lovemydogs (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:16 PM

16. Sanders has not been a co sponsor of any of the bipartisan health bills since 2014

 

the last one he had was the VA deal with McCain in 2014

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Response to factfinder_77 (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:37 PM

25. How many bipartisan health bills have there been since 2014?

How many were passed since the Republicans went full batshit crazy and wouldn't do ANYTHING in the senate that might make Obama look good?

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:41 PM

30. A Bipartisan Agenda for the Incoming Administration from State Leaders

 

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Response to factfinder_77 (Reply #30)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:44 PM

31. I see no bill mentioned in there.

I just skimmed it, but it was just a "states and feds need to work together" article. What bill was there that Sanders passed up on?

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #31)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:46 PM

32. there cant be any bipartisan bill without bipartisan discussions..

 

And no fucking GOP will support universal health care at this stage.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Reply #32)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:48 PM

33. No fucking GOP will support anything the Dems want at this point.

Have you not noticed their hard on to get rid of the ACA?

Again, what bipartisan bills has Sanders passed up on since 2014 and what bipartisan health bills have passed since 2014.

Your lack of answering that clearly means you ain't found shit. But don't let that stop your "blame everything on Sanders and not the asshole republicans" party.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Reply #30)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:00 PM

35. That is not even a bill!

If you knew how to search the Senate record you could find bills that have been introduced. Not to mention, the VA bill was in 2014. You KNOW that he was running for president in 2015 and 2016. No Senator running for President - not Sanders, not Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Bradley etc writes major legislation in the marathon that Presidential politics is.

In 2017, he has a bill with cosponsors, but no Republicans.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:01 PM

6. Yes, we'll focus on small increments

while the Republicans tear everything apart. Brilliant!

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:03 PM

8. Bernie just nailed it on Republican hypocrisy about "choice"

when many women CHOOSE Planned Parenthood. Get 'em Bernie!

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Response to PatsFan87 (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:39 PM

28. He didn't address that heinous lie about PP.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #28)

Tue Sep 26, 2017, 04:55 AM

41. That really pissed me off.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:09 PM

9. Agreed

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:11 PM

10. Hes doing fine, and multiple times has said he supports fixing ACA.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:11 PM

11. So when Graham started mumbling about insurance company profits going up

so much because of the ACA (like they wouldn't with his bill) and how awful that was, should Bernie have ignored the opportunity to talk about how much higher costs are because of insurance companies?

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:13 PM

14. He should have said that the Rethugs voted to BAR Medicare from negotiating with pharma cos. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:29 PM

18. He made that point repeatedly

 

And even directly asked both Graham and Cassidy if they would support allowing Medicare to negotiate for lower drug prices, to which they weaseled their way out of the question.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:34 PM

20. People only listen to what they want to hear.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:39 PM

27. He didn't call out Graham for having voted for the law barring Medicare from negotiating

with the drug companies.

Yes, he tried to get Cassidy and Graham to agree to supporting his bill. But he didn't criticize Graham for getting us in this position in the first place.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:36 PM

22. What does that have to do with insurance companies' profits?

Graham brought up how much the middle man makes in our current system and Bernie was supposed to bring up another industry?

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:39 PM

26. You might want to pay more attention.

He said that. Probably not at the perfect microsecond, though, right?

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:13 PM

15. Sanders is arguing for both the ACA and single payer

I guess some only hear what they want

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:19 PM

17. Will I be banned if I call you a troll?

I havenít yet seen a helpful post from you.

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Response to Ron Green (Reply #17)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:36 PM

23. Every day, there are different songs that happen to bellow out the same tune.

Last edited Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:40 PM - Edit history (1)

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The monotony is painful.

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Response to Ron Green (Reply #17)

Tue Sep 26, 2017, 12:33 AM

38. Hmmm...one might even get the impression --

 

it was their job to do this amount of anti-single payer work.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:32 PM

19. Given your strange comments about Bernie, he must be doing awesome.


Thank you, factfinder.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:35 PM

21. Oh cut it out Steve....

...we know its you.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:39 PM

29. He has covered it all.

He has said that M4A is for down the road. Did you not hear that? I don't think it would actually matter if you did. You might be able to convince enough people that he spoke against the ACA. He and Amy K ( sorry I cannot get past my spell checker on my phone) did a wonderful job.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:59 PM

34. Bernie is debating like a statesman. Truth and facts.

The Republicans should be pushing the ACA. It addresses many of the immoral practices that the "free enterprise ", for profit companies have grown fat and happy on. But it still leaves them in control of the game. We have to start talking about the ACA as the for profit insurance industries last chance. If they can't support a system that makes all Americans participate in return for actually having to provide good insurance, then we, the American people should take it out of there hands.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:01 PM

36. NOPE! i hope he never stops talking about it. EVER! nt

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:32 PM

37. never stop looking for those facts! one day you might find one. nt

 

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Tue Sep 26, 2017, 01:17 AM

39. And there he goes again.

People are on to it, friend. Maybe it's time to change socks.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Tue Sep 26, 2017, 06:47 AM

42. Meanwhile the rest of the world thinks Amy and Bernie crushed it.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Tue Sep 26, 2017, 07:36 AM

44. Why do you hate health care for all so much?


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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Tue Sep 26, 2017, 07:46 AM

45. Nah, he should keep doing just what he did.

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Response to factfinder_77 (Original post)

Tue Sep 26, 2017, 07:53 AM

46. I have a dream. It involves 1 day on DU without Bernie bashing.

We'll be refighting the 2016 primary when Trump takes his oath of office in 2020.

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