BLM boycott against NFL working BIGTIME!

[Fluke a Snooker]

Black Lives Matter is one powerful organization, and I'm proud, along with all other progressive allies, to parther with their just organization. Their call to boycott paid HUGE dividends. In LA, they couldn't even sell out a 27,000 seat stadium, which most tiny colleges can do with ease. In addition, they can only fill half of another stadium. In total, the COMBINED attendance of both the LA Rams and the LA Chargers couldn't even reach the attendance of the USC Trojans vs Texas Longhorns game.

Without any doubt, BLM, along with all its sister progressive organizations are proving to be one LETHAL force in the side of the white oppressionist Republicans. The Drumpf Administration had better be absolutely fearful, because this is a DIRECT indictment of the entire white supremacist culture that has permeated the entire planet for the past half millennium. Let's continue the transformation of the US from a capitalist oppressive system to that of an integrated component of a true globalist progressive culture.

[we can do it]

1. Football players brains are reduced to mush. Why is it still allowed?

[nycbos]

5. The NFL sells broadcasting rights for billions of dollars.

[ileus]

48. Today is my sons first practice since suffering a concussion

They have 3 games left in the season, and he's hanging up his cleats.

I guess he'll continue with Basketball and Baseball.

[nycbos]

2. How do you know it is BLM?

A lot of white people didn't watch football because players kneeing for anthem made them feel insecure.

[fallout87]

3. This ...

Let's be honest here... tanking ratings have been happening since last year. There is a major backlash since the kneeling during the national anthem. It isn't BLM or Kaepernick supporters that are tanking the ratings.

[nycbos]

7. Also many say (myself included) the quality of play in the league has gone down.

That is also a reason and because of that people aren't willing to pay huge sums for a lower quality of play.

I think they would get fans in if teams would lower their ticket prices. Teams can afford this because ticket revenue only makes of a small portion of their overall revenue. TV rights are where the huge bucks are.

[Drahthaardogs]

23. Maybe LA just can't fill a stadium

Green Bay and Denver have no issues selling out.

[Go Vols]

55. +1

[Bradical79]

24. Yeah, it's also LA

This sort of thing was predicted (and had happened previously) before BLM existed.

[pstokely]

32. but they still get the increase in TV revenue from LA market even with empty stadiums

fans without Sunday Ticket miss better games

[ileus]

49. ding ding ding...

[LittleBlue]

66. Yeah, that. Plus the cost of going to a game

I read that it's $500 for a family of four to go to a game. Plus the concussions reports. Not to mention that the low attendance games were the Rams and Chargers, who moved to LA despite more Raiders fans living there than either of those teams.

[bearsfootball516]

4. LA has never even been able to support 1 NFL team...I don't know who thought they could support TWO

I don't think this is necessarily BLM. NFL football has always crashed and burned in LA.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

6. Not being able to sell out an NFL stadium is more a function

of the cost of attending the game (especially compared to attending a college game) than anything else. People can easily and cheaply watch the games on TV, not endure cold or heat, not have to pay whatever they're charging these days for a beer, not fight a huge traffic jam getting in to and out of the stadium.

If watching on TV is substantially down, then yes, the system is failing. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that viewership is pretty steady.

[pstokely]

33. TV viewship has been up and down

while you can pick up cheap tickets on the secondary market, parking is still $$$ even for meaningless pre season games

[DBoon]

53. why attend an NFL game

When you have a choice of USC or UCLA?

[mythology]

8. Two not very good teams that just moved there and haven't gotten a stadium built

I'm not sure that can be traced to BLM. I'm pretty sure it's related to the fact that there are a million things to do in LA and they generally don't turn out for losing teams.

[Initech]

16. It's total bullshit to give BLM the credit.

That makes us no better than the republicans who are taking credit for Trump for things Obama did. All sports are seeing a decline in ticket sales because people just don't have disposable income anymore. I am an Angels fan and I found a ticket stub from 2007. Ticket prices for season seats then were $35 a ticket. Now? They're $110 a ticket! That's a 300% increase! And owners are wondering why they can't fill seats? GTFO! Take a look in the mirror!

[pstokely]

34. what kinda seat was that?

a good seat or a noisebleed seat?

[Initech]

38. It was a field level seat!

[Odoreida]

9. The NFL is an inherently corrupt organization.

OK by me if it goes down .

[edhopper]

10. It has absolutely nothing to do with BLM

the Rams suck and there are no Charger fans in LA. They should have stayed in San Diego.

[nycbos]

11. Exactly

They moved to LA because San Diego because the City of San Diego refused to give them a new stadium with public money.

[maveric]

50. Dean Spanos' republican values.

The (Spanos) could have built a new venue themselves and had it paid for in 3-5 years or so. Robert Kraft did that and it would have worked here in San Diego. He wasn't willing to spend any of his own money on that. He wanted the city to pay for it and it was voted down.
San Diego needs to spend its money on infrastructure and other necessities. Not a stadium.
So he said fuck you to the loyal fans of 56 years and took off.

What's funny now is that the grocery, convenience and liquor stores are handing out LA Rams schedules down here in SD.

[Initech]

12. I highly doubt that this is related to BLM.

This is more related to ticket prices being too damn high and disposable income being too damn low. College games are usually less expensive than pro games.

[Cracklin Charlie]

30. Hubs just told me...

That parking at my local NFL stadium is $65 per car per game.

Parking!

I would think those prices would run fans off in droves.

And don't even get me started on the fact that a game that has a 48 minute game clock lasts for 3 hours. Extrapolate those numbers for every game...that's a hell of a lot of commercials!

[pstokely]

36. that makes the $35+ at Chiefs games look like a real bargain

but it's $60+ at the gate, only $35+service fees on Ticketmaster

[Initech]

37. Yup in the end advertising always wins!

Who cares what teams are in it as long as Capital One, O'Reilly Auto Parts, and American Airlines get their share of that sweet profit?

[pstokely]

35. also the teams being too damn crappy

nt

[cyclonefence]

13. For some reason, your post makes me uneasy

I haven't seen many SHOUTED words here at DU, and your exaggerations are not convincing. I don't mean to be impolite, but where do you get your information?

Granted, I don't give two shits about football (other than disgust over brain injuries), so whatever you said about attendance went right over my head--but you say BLM is responsible?

Who are "all its sister progressive organizations" that are proving to be a LETHAL force against the "white oppressionist Republicans?" I'd think you'd mention names instead of these generalities, which might lead one to think you don't know the names of any sister progressive organizations.

And "a true globalist progressive culture?" C'mon Steve--we know it's you!

[Lotusflower70]

14. Ratings have been an issue

Since the movie Concussion. The dumbest move ever was to have 2 teams in LA. They struggle with one, two is absolutely ridiculous. The Chargers don't have a fan base there. The Rams had the nostalgia element last year but they are just sad. Everywhere else the league keeps rolling right along.

[JI7]

15. I think it could be the expense plus brain damage issue

It would be a good thing to end this sport.

[Amishman]

59. Yup, the NFL has been down hill for years, BLM's protest is only a small contributor

They've been about the money and ignoring the desires of fans and players for a long time. And it is really starting to show

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

17. Good!

[MattP]

18. The Raiders would have filled the stadium but it wouldnt besafe

I went to alot of games in the 80's and saw alot of fans of other teams get bottles broken over thier heads and a couple of them sent to the hospital

[oasis]

19. UCLA, USC, Rams, Dodgers, Chargers and Angels, all bumping

heads in seasonal play in Los Angeles. The sports dollar can only stretch so far.

[BannonsLiver]

46. LA's never been a great pro-football town

The Rams got there a year ago, and have a history. So there is some natural fan base for them. But the Chargers have made a terrible error in judgement by leaving SD. A mistake that has probably already become apparent to the ownership if you were to give them truth serum.

There is not natural Charger fan base in LA and probably never will be unless the team starts winning super bowls. That is highly unlikely given the current make up of their roster. Also, the Chargers have had limited national appeal, unlike Dallas or Green Bay, among others. Their fan base was already quite small in comparison to begin with. And SD fans in San Diego are so pissed they left they aren't going to travel to LA to watch them.

The fact they aren't selling out a tiny stadium has zilcho to do with BLM or any other organization.

[oasis]

63. In the eighties, fans were nutso for the then, L.A. Raiders.

That team has built a nationwide following. The Chargers have been a so-so team for decades.

[BannonsLiver]

70. And then the Raiders left

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LA has lost 2 pro football teams. Few cities can claim that mantle.

[tritsofme]

73. Actually, St. Louis can claim a piece of that glory.

The Cardinals left for Arizona in the 80s, and the Rams last year.

We don't like to let them forget it from here in Chicago!

[BannonsLiver]

74. True. I stand corrected.

But LA is still a very meh pro football town.

[LeftInTX]

20. I think it is the head trauma stuff

Mr. LeftinTX still watches NFL, but I bet some people are beginning to think the sport is unsustainable.

[GusFring]

21. LOL, that has nothing to do with BLM. That has to do with the nfl being greedy and forcing

2 teams in a market that didn't want them because the Clippers sold for $2bil and they thought they could raise the value of 2 horrible organizations. It's going to be more embarrassing when that new stadium in Inglewood is half full. We just don't want a team that isnt the Raiders.

[Initech]

25. Plus as I keep saying in this thread - the ticket prices are too high!

And people just aren't going to games anymore. I'm an Angels fan and I found a ticket stub from 2007. Then for field-level tickets it costs a mere $35. Now for those same seats it costs $110. That's a nearly 300% increase! And the owners are wondering why they can't get fans in the seats? GTFO!

[WillowTree]

22. Riiiight. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the confiscatory ticket prices.

[stopbush]

26. Because of the limited seating, the cheapest Charger home ticket is $192.

Parking for the Rams game yesterday was $100 a vehicle.

Who can afford it?

[Docreed2003]

51. Came to post the same thing about parking...100$ is ridiculous

[Bengus81]

60. Chiefs will be in LA Sunday with the Chargers........

Hell as a Chief fan I'll always screw up and call them San Diego. Be interesting to see the fan base but I'm worried about TV. If LA doesn't sell out are they broadcasting the game?

Chiefs are pretty much always a sell out game with 76,000 seats at Arrowhead.

[stopbush]

62. Chargers are playing in a 27,000-seat venue, and it was half empty Sunday.

Chances of a sell out? 0%

[pstokely]

67. likely filled with Chiefs fans

it will be basically be a home game for the visiting team, it was even for the Dolphins, a team from another fairweather sports market

[jberryhill]

27. "a true globalist progressive culture."

Lol. Nobody talks that way. If you want to make it believable, you're going to have to try harder.

The blackout rule was eliminated in 2015 and attendance has plummeted. That's the only factor with "black" in it.

https://businesssideofsports.com/2015/08/03/why-has-nfl-attendance-declined-by-over-2-million-fans-in-the-last-36-months/

[snooper2]

71. people talk that way in Crimea

LOL

[jberryhill]

77. They do now

[msongs]

28. too bad the OP has fled. wanted to know what stadium and when nt

[sarisataka]

29. Textbook example

Of a drive by posting

[Fluke a Snooker]

40. Can you be more specific?

I have absolutely no idea what you mean.

[snooper2]

72. We know LOL

[nocalflea]

31. BLM is boycotting the NFL ?

[Fluke a Snooker]

41. Yes. Shaun King advocated it.

[haveahart]

69. The same guy who advocated voting against Hillary or not voting at all?

[FSogol]

39. The BLM boycott against ostriches in Virginia is working too! I saw none on my commute today.

[LexVegas]

42. ...

[Inkfreak]

43. The NFL is going nowhere.

Record profits last year. LA is a shit market for fan support. Neither BLM or butthurt false patriots insisting they're boycotting because of the kneeling will end the juggernaut that is the NFL. Their worst ratings far exceed MLB/NBA/NHL.

[Brother Buzz]

44. Los Angeles mayor thinks city might have been better off with just Rams

Los Angeles mayor thinks city might have been better off with just Rams

Scott Gleeson
Sept. 19, 2017

Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti said in a recent interview on The Dan Patrick Show that the city might have been better off embracing just one NFL team after a 22-year hiatus from professional football.

Los Angeles, of course, welcomed the Rams last season from St. Louis and the Chargers this season from San Diego. Attendance has not been great; the Chargers failed to sell out their first home game in the StubHub Center, a 27,000-seat stadium most notably used for Major League Soccer, while the Rams announced an official attendance of 56,612 for their home game at the Coliseum. Compare that to USC's game against Texas this weekend before 84,714 fans.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/09/19/los-angeles-mayor-eric-garcetti-city-might-have-been-better-off-just-rams/680219001/

[spiderpig]

45. I read a post recently about empty seats and I'm pretty sure it was in DU

Ridiculous ticket/parking/food prices all play their parts. But we know the owners pull in the big $ from broadcast revenue. One poster said that most of the in-person game experience was sitting around with no action on the field during constant commercial breaks.

The new purpose-built Levi Stadium, constructed in Santa Clara for the 49ers, is insufferably hot on one side of the park and is known as the barbecue section.

Lots of reasons for footballs decline - greed generally being a common denominator.

[B2G]

47. How are they going to pay all of those multi-million dollar salaries?

So sad...

[Hobo]

52. As much as BLM is an worthy Organization

People in LA don't care about pro football. Especially if the team just moved from San Diego. Again a worthy Organization but don't give credit where none are due.

Hobo

[Gothmog]

54. Boycotts can work

[NCjack]

56. Need more fans in stadium? The best two ways are:

1. The team has to become the customer satisfaction leader -- win the most games and generate the most excitement (i.e., most brain injuries), or

2. lower the price of the tickets until the stadium is filled.

[58Sunliner]

57. The snark is strong in this thread.

[SpicyBoi]

58. Atlanta Falcons solid 70K tickets for their home opener

In a new dome no less. I'd blame LA.

[oasis]

65. Lowly 49ers @ Seahawks drew 68,729(stadium holds 67,000).

Shitty Cleveland Browns at Ravens drew 71,008, stadium holds 70, 605.

NFL is doing okay.

[pstokely]

68. blame the records of the teams

Atlanta is another fairweather sports market filled with transplants, they'll probably sell it when the Kronkedome until the novelty wears off

[ImpeachTheGOP]

61. Ummm, nobody EVER went to NFL games in L.A.

No one cares there.

Sorry to bust your bubble.

Btw, the right wing is claiming that no one is going because of the anthem protests. They're wrong too.

[Baconator]

64. I think folks are just bored...

Political protests might be a factor but no reason to think they are the sole cause...

[ProfessorGAC]

75. I'll Say It's A Non-Factor

Let's remember that Kapernick does not have a gig right now because the owners were too worried about fan backlash.

That suggests to me that most NFL fans don't care a whit about what BLM says about the NFL. If they did, the focus groups wouldn't have scared off the three teams that came closest to signing him. (While, btw, desperately in need of an experienced QB.)

The fact that he still has no spot on any of the 32 teams suggests to me that BLM has had zero impact on attendance or ratings.

[cwydro]

76. Lol. You surely don't believe that?

[stonecutter357]

78. #fakenews.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance

[john657]

79. Are you sure?

You don't think it could be a backlash against the kneeling during the National Anthem?
I think you better check your "facts".