The "I stand with Bernie" thread!

[Joe941]

It seems a lot of trolls are trying to tear him down. But I'm here to say I support Bernie 100% and will not let the infiltrators take that away from this community. Who is with me?

[democratisphere]

1. ****crickets**** ****crickets****

[floppyboo]

87. Exactly!

Most of 'us' have left after multiple bullying - and yet the same old song plays on here that 'we' are causing problems on this page. No - we are not. the crickets you hear are the lone cry in a sterile field you have un-cultivated.
Happy now?

[orangecrush]

2. ...

[SharonClark]

3. Do you have an example of who the "lots of trolls" and "infiltrators" are?

[melman]

5. Why ask such a question

when you know it can't be answered? Any attempt to do so would result in an instant hide.

[Demsrule86]

94. Those who don't agree with them mostly.

For example, I have been warning that we could lose the ACA with the single payer bill that now is not the right time to advance this bill... and by not working to save the ACA, we could lose all chance of healthcare for decades ...and damned if last night on Chris Hayes if there wasn't new info on a bill that bribes GOP senators to take down the ACA and Medicaid (block grants). It apper they may have the votes.

[eShirl]

4. But wouldn't Bernie tell you it's not about him?

[aikoaiko]

6. I stand with Bernie too, but I don't think we need threads like this right now.

I also don't think the majority of those you identify as trolls are not infiltrators as much as they are Democrats of a certain variety with certain issues.

We'll work it out eventually.

[Joe941]

7. thank you.

[TCJ70]

17. Yeah...this isn't necessary and is divisive. n/t

[secondwind]

86. Excellent reply.

[Coventina]

8. I stand with Bernie.

I also stand with Hillary.

[Joe941]

9. As did I.

[liberal from boston]

11. Bernie

I stand with Bernie & voted for Hillary in Presidential election.

[Duppers]

24. Same here. :)

[Bluepinky]

54. Me too.

[kstewart33]

10. I don't stand with this thread.

The wounds in this community that occurred throughout 2016 at DU have not healed. Personalizing issues with "I stand with Bernie" or "I stand with Hillary" does nothing to help heal those wounds. Instead, it perpetuates the war that was waged between Bernie and Hillary supporters in 2016.

And yes, it was a war. I've been a DUer since 2001, and I've never seen anything like it in this community.

[Old Vet]

41. This is a straight up BULLSHIT thread, Considering many bernie supporters are protesting...

HRC book signings. Pulling the scab open again thread as far as Iam concerned.

[kstewart33]

65. If things get nasty, I'm hoping that Skinner will find a way to put an end to this. nt

[smirkymonkey]

84. +1000

[leftstreet]

12. DURec

[CherokeeFiddle]

13. Bernie woke me up

I've always found politics interesting and paid attention mostly but before Bernie I never really felt like anybody spoke of the issues I care about and felt passionately. Then Bernie happened. He's the first guy where I felt as though I was truly represented by someone. I not only stand with him but I have become very active politically & help with holding meetings for Our Revolution locally & working with getting the word out, engaging people.

[renate]

38. welcome to DU!

[CherokeeFiddle]

43. :) Thanks very much

[samnsara]

98. im glad you found a voice in him....

..he effected me quite the opposite but he would have had my vote 100% if he had been the candidate...

[LovingA2andMI]

14. .....

[m-lekktor]

15. There are a few of us left here who haven't fled yet.

I am a masochist!

[TexasBushwhacker]

18. I feel that way too!

[QC]

19. Morbid curiosity is a powerful thing, isn't it? n/t

[Joe941]

50. There was this masochist...

There was this masochist who loved nothing better than to take a cold shower on a cold winter morning - so he took a warm shower instead.

[beam me up scottie]

67. Me too!

[MuseRider]

101. Me too

but I gotta say it is hard. It isn't the differences between H and B supporters it is the snotty way it is done. I have to stop reading or I get angry and quite frankly there are things that we need to be angry about and things that are too immature and ignorant to get upset about. Lots of that around here. I could care less about them but still manage to feel angry.

[ashtonelijah]

16. I stand with Democrats who spend time building the party rather than tearing it down.

[leftstreet]

27. 16 Democratic Senators are endorsing Medicare For All

Would they do that if they thought it would tear the party down?

I'm guessing they think it will build the party up

[ashtonelijah]

39. Under threat of being targeted for character assassination & smearing by Bernie's sycophants

Just look at what they've already tried to do to Kamala Harris and Corey Booker.

[leftstreet]

55. You don't know that they're not sincere n/t

[Demsrule86]

92. Ah...yet the GOP are poised to take down the ACA once and for all and the added bonus is

that Medicaid will be block granted and destroyed...they will use blue state Medicaid money to bribe GOP Senators. Now where is the 'save the ACA bill"? This is the insurance millions depend on...why would anyone think advancing a single payer bill that can't pass is a good idea? I heard on Chris Hayes they may have the votes too...yesterday.

[stevenleser]

51. +1010100 nt

[DownriverDem]

20. Stand all you want

I like Bernie's ideas, but all I ask is if Bernie plans on running in the Dem Primaries for 2020, to join the Dem Party sooner rather than later. It would end the mess that happened last time. I honestly don't think folks realize what a problem he created.

[YoungDemCA]

34. What problem did he create?

nt

[floppyboo]

88. I think he feels obliged to finish his senate term under the 'I' he ran as

That is integrity. We'll see after that. He'll be free to change then.

[TacoD]

21. I am proud of his leadership with Medicare for All (nt)

[ananda]

22. Count me tall!

Go Sanders!

[VaBchTgerLily]

23. I think Bernie is right on health care!! I'm with you......

I have said this before- the silly truth is that between the taxes we now pay and the premiums many of us currently have for insurance, we are probably close to the tax amounts that other countries whom have universal heath care charge thier constituents

[Tiggeroshii]

25. I stand with Bernie.

[maxsolomon]

26. Saw a bumpersticker today:

"Don't blame me, I voted for Bernie".

I wasn't going to, but since you brought it up...

[woodsprite]

28. I have one that says "Hindsight is 2020". n/t

[maxsolomon]

31. A bit esoteric but that's in my wheelhouse.

Also saw a good one on a Tesla SUV: UNFIT, in the Trump 2016 font.

Didn't make me feel much better.

[Demsrule86]

96. I wonder what bumper stickers will look like if the ACA goes down...while

Congress plays the single payer lottery...and inevitably loses. Who will be blamed?

[berni_mccoy]

29. Bernie is the Heart of the Democratic Party! GO BERNIE

And it's not just trolls who are trying to tear him down.

[maxsolomon]

32. If that's true, it's a recent development

Since he wasn't a Dem until last year.

[berni_mccoy]

33. I'd say given that the DNC platform has adopted most of his stances on issues

And he had 17 co-sponsors for his Medicare for All plan, he's pretty well leading the way.

I know many don't want to acknowledge his party creds, but for all intents and purposes, he *is* a Democrat.

[maxsolomon]

36. I acknowledge that he joined the Democratic party in order to run for President on their ticket.

I acknowledge that he is leading the Dems in proposing legislation that will not be passed.

I simply don't like your description of him as the heart of the Party because he is, despite his advance age, a newcomer.

[berni_mccoy]

37. You are free to not like it. But it is the truth.

[maxsolomon]

40. Its your OPINION

but it is not "the Truth", which, in case you hadn't noticed, is dead and buried under Trump's morning shits.

I used to love Sanders. I still agree with nearly everything he says. I think HRC should have picked him as VP.

But since I am of the opinion that his quixotic primary run, and the creation of an intransigent, antagonistic group of supporters attacking the Party from within led directly to Trump winning the White House, you're right: I don't like it.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

42. What do you call caucusing with the Democratic Party for 27 years.

And often being one of the key caucus votes in keeping a majority?

You Maybe you are right. Maybe he should have been the VP pick. Whose choice was that?

[CherokeeFiddle]

45. Except it isn't an opinion

Bernie enjoys the highest rating of ANY currently serving politician. Only 8% of registered Democrats view him as unfavorable. He brought in more younger voters than Hillary and Trump COMBINED. If that's what you consider toxic, I'd hate to see what you consider as strength.

[maxsolomon]

47. the term was "Heart of the Party"

I view him favorably as well.

But when he has supporters outside the party still attacking the Dems (not neccessarily on DU, but I engage with them frequently on Facebook) as corrupt, 2 sides of the same coin, etc., I'm not going to agree.

[CherokeeFiddle]

49. Both sides do it

Endlessly at that. Doesn't mean though those folks are representative of the people they support. Every leader has a few followers who were left alone too long when they children.

[Bluepinky]

57. Bernie is more of a Democrat than some of the Democrats.

[Demsrule86]

93. I wonder what folks will think if the ACA and Medicaid goes down.

[Bluepinky]

97. It would be terrible.

[Hekate]

60. And he's not a Dem now. Funny, that.

[LanternWaste]

30. I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians...

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”


― Mahatma Gandhi

[stevenleser]

52. That is going to go right over the heads of, well... nt

[melman]

78. It doesn't go over anyone's head

It's just not that clever.

[stevenleser]

79. Who said it was clever? Gandhi didn't try to be clever, he tried to be accurate. nt

[YoungDemCA]

35. I support Sanders and I STRONGLY support the principles he and many others stand for.

Thanks for the thread, Joe941.

[Orsino]

44. I dunno. Sure.

He's generally aligned with the right folk in Congress, and is pointing us in a really good direction right now with Medicare-For-All.

But he hasn't been punished enough for 2016 for DU to let him off the hook yet.

[floppyboo]

89. hahaha! Yes, make him run the gauntlet!

Throw him in the river and see if he sinks!
And the final challenge: Put him in a locker room with Trump, Melania and Jane and see who runs first! Survivor rules!
(spoiler: Jane helps Melania escape, Trump cries and Bernie helps him to the waiting stretcher)

[seaglass]

46. I will stand with him the moment he announces he will not run for president in 2020. n/t

[pnwmom]

48. I would be much happier about standing with him if he hadn't announced he was leaving the party. nt

[MFM008]

53. Divide and Conquer

The Russians know it.
The Republicans know it.
Maggot in chief knows it.

[NightWatcher]

56. Is Bernie a Democrat now? If not, he's splitting up the Dem voting base.

And I'm not supportive of that, nor is that the purpose of this website. It's not "Left Leaning Independents Who Caucus with Democrats Underground dot com" last time I checked.

[Not Ruth]

58. Would like to see Hillary post in this thread

Because in some ways, I see her book as being critical of Bernie, and that undermines his ability to get legislation passed.

[Hekate]

61. So you already read the book? I'm still waiting for my copy to come in the mail.

But I've read the excerpts and seen the interviews, and I think you are mistaken.

[oasis]

63. What was stopping him from passing legislation before her book came out?

[Hekate]

68. One wonders, doesn't one. He's got to be at least as powerful as "Chuck and Nancy," so why not?

[Donkees]

59. ... and Bernie Sanders stands by me

[Hekate]

62. Amazingly divisive. Why this? Why now?

[DFW]

64. Hmmm, good question

Maybe because an "I Stand With Jill Stein" wouldn't get as much attention?

[Hekate]

69. Ha!

Also saying that would get someone tossed, at this juncture. Jill is a genuine gold-plated tool and all-around useful idiot.

[fleabiscuit]

70. LOL. I often have to ask if English is a second language for some posts.

[DFW]

82. In case you need translation

Some of our Republican visitors only post in their native language:

EXCERPTS FROM THE OFFICIAL DICTIONARY OF REPUBLICANESE

In Republicanese, many words that sound alike may be spelled differently at random. A few prominent examples:

In Republicanese, the following words may be spelled at random using any of the three ways given:

A.) Two, Too, To
B.) Their, They're, There
c.) Your, Yore, You're

The Republicanese version of Robin Hood therefore starts with "In days of you're...."

The only rule is that the correct use of them as in English is never permitted twice in a row.

Words with single letters that change meaning when a letter is doubled must never be used in correct English context. The classic example is “lose” vs. “loose.” In Republicanese, if you do not win an election, then you “loose” that election. Conversely, if your (Republicanese: you’re) belt is too tight, you need it more “lose” in order to be comfortable. Another example would be the Republicanese, “I met Donald Trump, and he was rudder than I imagined,” vs. “I grabbed the ruder and was able to steer the boat to shore.”

In Republicanese, an apostrophe is used to form a plural, but it must be done at random, never systematically. For example, Bill and Hillary are "the Clinton's," but Bill, Chelsea and Hillary are "the Clintons." The other way around is also correct. In Republicanese, either form is correct as long as it is not spelled the same way twice in a row.

[floppyboo]

90. Holy Doodle! Did you know there's a class war goin' on?

Spell check is the new ass wipe left. Don't do it. You are not helping.

[DFW]

91. If people are going to post in some dialect so deviating from standard English

It's to the point where no one whose native language is English can make heads or tails of it, we need SOME kind of linguistic guide to help us out.

It's always the Republicans who bash people for not speaking "American (though none of them seem to know any Navajo, Lakota or other American languages)," and it is always they who have such a convoluted version of English that one has to wonder how they passed the third grade. Unless you are such a Republican, or have a PhD in linguistics, you ought to be thankful for the guide.

[left-of-center2012]

66. Thank you !

I liked Bernie in the primaries,
and I voted for Hillary in November.

And I'm tired of the daily attacks on Bernie.

We need to move forward and beat the GOP in 2018 and 2020.

And yes, I've been attacked here for saying this in the past.

[riderinthestorm]

72. I'm with progressives. Hillary. Bernie. Anyone whose moving our ideals along

[Arazi]

73. +1000 Eom

[ZX86]

74. Some things transcend party affiliation. I stand with Bernie because Bernie stands with me.

[ucrdem]

75. I stand with the ACA. Bernie's welcome to join us. nt

[JCanete]

83. ? you don't want something better than the ACA? ACA's the limit? cool.

[Liberal In Texas]

76. I also support Bernie. Now stop re-litigating the primaries.

That is all.

[Eko]

77. Maybe,

Maybe not. I'm not used to blind faith, unless it's the band. I'm used to that.

[Snackshack]

80. I stand with anyone...

Who stands against the republicans and their continued attacks against the majority of this country.

[NanceGreggs]

81. I always wondered what it would look like ...

... when DU finally jumped the shark.

[Lunabell]

85. I agree with Bernie

We need to get the Democratic party working for the people again.

[Joe941]

102. Truer words have rarely been spoke.

[Autumn]

95. I will always stand with Bernie.

[dembotoz]

99. Go Bernie

[USALiberal]

100. KR