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clu

(494 posts)
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 10:17 PM Sep 2017

what legislation is needed to bring about social justice

This is a continuation of a thread a few days ago. I keep getting posts reported so I get locked out of my threads.... I am somewhat new so I will be more careful - I am not here to disrupt. I work with a few smart middle class blacks, although I am aware of racial profiling (i'm Mexican), as well as the quicksand pit of poverty (ahem class) comprised of social/economic hardships (losing cars due to no insurance, harder legal sentencing on average etc please tell me more).

someone alluded in my thread that I need to "educate myself" for the laws that need to be passed to bring about a just level of social justice. this is a tough topic to research so maybe someone can point me to a few prominent talking points.

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what legislation is needed to bring about social justice (Original Post) clu Sep 2017 OP
daytime bump clu Sep 2017 #1
You're a minority and you need to be pointed in the right direction? LexVegas Sep 2017 #2
rolleyes away clu Sep 2017 #3
clu needs a clu... MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #4
actually i'm guessing the correct answer clu Sep 2017 #5
Your comments about "blacks" gives me an odd feeling. brer cat Sep 2017 #10
while that is an inference i did not consider clu Sep 2017 #12
We need a constituional amendment. The ERA. Now why do you ask?? boston bean Sep 2017 #6
what a thoughtful answer clu Sep 2017 #7
confiscation and reallocation are the only answer at this time. ileus Sep 2017 #8
hey now in all honesty clu Sep 2017 #9
Uh huh Calculating Sep 2017 #11
 

clu

(494 posts)
1. daytime bump
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 07:44 AM
Sep 2017

I've seen allusions in some threads that racism is pervasive enough and prominent enough that more legislation is needed to fight it. I can imagine that getting turned down for a home loan in a certain area or lots of other factors would really suck.

I have also seen allusions that some political candidates did not do enough to focus or fight racial or social justice issues. Can anyone suggest a few aspects of social injustice that need legislation to correct?

 

clu

(494 posts)
3. rolleyes away
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 07:48 AM
Sep 2017

sure I've had a cop bust a quick U-turn to run my plates..... that doesn't mean I don't have a good job. am I making the safe assumptions because I can only guess at what else you might be thinking.

 

clu

(494 posts)
5. actually i'm guessing the correct answer
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:34 AM
Sep 2017

***these are not RW talking points I will provide examples for anything requested please do not lock***

is that despite any and all problems from income inequality, depending on where you live (urban vs rural), racism to some extent can be overcome. yes, racism exists. yes, blacks can get shot if they speed away from a cop who's at their car window, or heaven forbid even worse when they're doing everything the cop asks. (I have seen several cases of this).

I work with a few successful blacks as I've stated in several threads, so maybe I don't see racism the same way. however, looking at my successful black co-workers, i'm having trouble seeing where more legislation will help. the only thing that will help IMO is the paradigm shift that will occur naturally as some of these racist fuckers die off.

I've seen other threads with some posters claiming that social justice issues are priority one, and that economic issues need to be set on the back burner. I've also seen posts that imply that major economic progressive actions in the past (FDR's work programs) were fundamentally racist and that presumably, social issues must be tackled first, lest they be ignored. that idea is the only motivation for this post. if you have no disagreement, stop replying and the post will die. however, if you feel like the other posters that social issues are still that far out of wack, please reply with what you think a good start would be, in terms of any legislation.

maybe legislation is reaching too far. maybe the candidates themselves should simply mention it more. I don't know - i'm only asking. please note the only reason i'm asking is after seeing statements in other threads that economic measures shouldn't be undertaken because they will have a tendency to discriminate against POC.

brer cat

(24,402 posts)
10. Your comments about "blacks" gives me an odd feeling.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 07:39 PM
Sep 2017

I showed them to an African American friend and this is what he said:

Maybe I'm just sensitive today, but "blacks can get ..." and "work with a few successful blacks ..." is off. Shouldn't those read: "Black people can get" and "work with a few successful Black people", to not scream I'm a little racist-ish?


You are complaining about posts being hidden. Maybe you need to consider how some of your usage comes across. You may not see racism, but your Black coworkers and anti-racist whites would.

 

clu

(494 posts)
12. while that is an inference i did not consider
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 07:57 PM
Sep 2017

i'm not sure that's what prompted hidden posts. in any case I will stfu about those posts. one of those guys i worked with was the best friend I ever made at work. my only point of bringing any of this up is that in the city, in some cases despite racism, POC can thrive despite it. this is in the context of a few threads from the weekend claiming that some dem presidential candidates didn't speak or act sufficiently in issues of race.

 

clu

(494 posts)
7. what a thoughtful answer
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:37 AM
Sep 2017

no argument here... that is a no brainer.... I will have to go to the libary and read but what are the fundamental differences between the civil rights bill and the ERA? codification into the constitution?

I can look it up myself if you think that "clu needs to get a clu" spank spank

edit: here is why I ask - it's in post #5:

please note the only reason i'm asking is after seeing statements in other threads that economic measures shouldn't be undertaken because they will have a tendency to discriminate against POC

ileus

(15,396 posts)
8. confiscation and reallocation are the only answer at this time.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:39 AM
Sep 2017


We need to take what they have...and level the playing field from that day forward.

 

clu

(494 posts)
9. hey now in all honesty
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:44 AM
Sep 2017

confiscate from who? some people really earned their money. ray kroc was a milkshake machine salesman who started mcdonalds. he saw their volume of business as evidenced by the number of milkshake machines they ordered, and he started the fast food industry.

should we only confiscate from banks? who does the money go to? are you a person of color? I only ask because i'm seeing a lot of resistance to economic measures in favor of social justice measures.

Calculating

(2,954 posts)
11. Uh huh
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 07:44 PM
Sep 2017

That would go over just great...
What are you suggesting, that the govt send armed goons to confiscate the belongings of rich white people and give them away to minorities? I don't think that has any chance whatsoever of working out or being implemented.

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