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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswhat legislation is needed to bring about social justice
This is a continuation of a thread a few days ago. I keep getting posts reported so I get locked out of my threads.... I am somewhat new so I will be more careful - I am not here to disrupt. I work with a few smart middle class blacks, although I am aware of racial profiling (i'm Mexican), as well as the quicksand pit of poverty (ahem class) comprised of social/economic hardships (losing cars due to no insurance, harder legal sentencing on average etc please tell me more).
someone alluded in my thread that I need to "educate myself" for the laws that need to be passed to bring about a just level of social justice. this is a tough topic to research so maybe someone can point me to a few prominent talking points.
I've seen allusions in some threads that racism is pervasive enough and prominent enough that more legislation is needed to fight it. I can imagine that getting turned down for a home loan in a certain area or lots of other factors would really suck.
I have also seen allusions that some political candidates did not do enough to focus or fight racial or social justice issues. Can anyone suggest a few aspects of social injustice that need legislation to correct?
LexVegas
(6,005 posts)Uh huh.
sure I've had a cop bust a quick U-turn to run my plates..... that doesn't mean I don't have a good job. am I making the safe assumptions because I can only guess at what else you might be thinking.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)clu
(494 posts)***these are not RW talking points I will provide examples for anything requested please do not lock***
is that despite any and all problems from income inequality, depending on where you live (urban vs rural), racism to some extent can be overcome. yes, racism exists. yes, blacks can get shot if they speed away from a cop who's at their car window, or heaven forbid even worse when they're doing everything the cop asks. (I have seen several cases of this).
I work with a few successful blacks as I've stated in several threads, so maybe I don't see racism the same way. however, looking at my successful black co-workers, i'm having trouble seeing where more legislation will help. the only thing that will help IMO is the paradigm shift that will occur naturally as some of these racist fuckers die off.
I've seen other threads with some posters claiming that social justice issues are priority one, and that economic issues need to be set on the back burner. I've also seen posts that imply that major economic progressive actions in the past (FDR's work programs) were fundamentally racist and that presumably, social issues must be tackled first, lest they be ignored. that idea is the only motivation for this post. if you have no disagreement, stop replying and the post will die. however, if you feel like the other posters that social issues are still that far out of wack, please reply with what you think a good start would be, in terms of any legislation.
maybe legislation is reaching too far. maybe the candidates themselves should simply mention it more. I don't know - i'm only asking. please note the only reason i'm asking is after seeing statements in other threads that economic measures shouldn't be undertaken because they will have a tendency to discriminate against POC.
brer cat
(24,402 posts)I showed them to an African American friend and this is what he said:
Maybe I'm just sensitive today, but "blacks can get ..." and "work with a few successful blacks ..." is off. Shouldn't those read: "Black people can get" and "work with a few successful Black people", to not scream I'm a little racist-ish?
You are complaining about posts being hidden. Maybe you need to consider how some of your usage comes across. You may not see racism, but your Black coworkers and anti-racist whites would.
clu
(494 posts)i'm not sure that's what prompted hidden posts. in any case I will stfu about those posts. one of those guys i worked with was the best friend I ever made at work. my only point of bringing any of this up is that in the city, in some cases despite racism, POC can thrive despite it. this is in the context of a few threads from the weekend claiming that some dem presidential candidates didn't speak or act sufficiently in issues of race.
boston bean
(36,186 posts)clu
(494 posts)no argument here... that is a no brainer.... I will have to go to the libary and read but what are the fundamental differences between the civil rights bill and the ERA? codification into the constitution?
I can look it up myself if you think that "clu needs to get a clu" spank spank
edit: here is why I ask - it's in post #5:
please note the only reason i'm asking is after seeing statements in other threads that economic measures shouldn't be undertaken because they will have a tendency to discriminate against POC
ileus
(15,396 posts)We need to take what they have...and level the playing field from that day forward.
clu
(494 posts)confiscate from who? some people really earned their money. ray kroc was a milkshake machine salesman who started mcdonalds. he saw their volume of business as evidenced by the number of milkshake machines they ordered, and he started the fast food industry.
should we only confiscate from banks? who does the money go to? are you a person of color? I only ask because i'm seeing a lot of resistance to economic measures in favor of social justice measures.
That would go over just great...
What are you suggesting, that the govt send armed goons to confiscate the belongings of rich white people and give them away to minorities? I don't think that has any chance whatsoever of working out or being implemented.