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Just a reminder: eveyryone should carry a hammer to break car windows (Original Post) question everything Aug 2017 OP
With safety belt cutter. kairos12 Aug 2017 #1
Right. Forgot to mention it. Thanks (nt) question everything Aug 2017 #34
Also, a spring-loaded centering punch will shatter a side window, BUT NOT A WINDSHIELD. John1956PA Aug 2017 #35
that sounds too fun SethH Aug 2017 #36
I didn't know. I have that. rusty quoin Aug 2017 #55
it will crack the windshield but,will not shatter it. You use this on rear and side windows. juxtaposed Aug 2017 #56
Thank you for correcting me on this point (slight pun). John1956PA Aug 2017 #64
is that a 1956 continental, almost bought one a few years ago! juxtaposed Aug 2017 #69
It is a '56 or '57. I pulled the photo off of the Internet. John1956PA Aug 2017 #70
if you are not sure, it's a 56 continental. never a lincoln! The most expensive car built in 56. juxtaposed Aug 2017 #71
Do not use a regular hammer unless there is nothing else. Boxerfan Aug 2017 #2
What about those with limited arm/hand strength? dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #20
You should be able to manage. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #59
Just ordered one from Amazon, 9 bucks. Thanks for the video. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #66
An automatic center punch is a really easy tool for the job mitch96 Aug 2017 #32
Mine is attached to the driver's door pocket, right by my left knee. Shrike47 Aug 2017 #37
Would six-inch stiletto heels work? IggleDuer Aug 2017 #3
Ouch underpants Aug 2017 #8
Ha! Phentex Aug 2017 #12
In the Weather channel clip, below #29 question everything Aug 2017 #52
You're wicked customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #60
Happy u added if in water thing dembotoz Aug 2017 #4
Indeed. I was just picturing for the increasingly-likely post-apocalyptic war zone bellmartin Aug 2017 #24
Yes. One of those needs to be in the center console of MineralMan Aug 2017 #5
That's exactly where mine is. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #51
Yup. I have one in both cars. MineralMan Aug 2017 #65
Mythbusters did the submerged car escape. Girard442 Aug 2017 #6
So did the Weather Channel mitch96 Aug 2017 #29
This is scary. Good for them to show this question everything Aug 2017 #50
Thanks for posting this customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #61
if I had a hammer... Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #7
I put those exact items MuseRider Aug 2017 #9
yeah especially with modern cars where lowering the windows is electric. drray23 Aug 2017 #10
12 Volt systems will work fine submerged. Thor_MN Aug 2017 #21
I keep a spring loaded center punch in my glove box. CentralMass Aug 2017 #30
The knife in my pocket will take care of that if need be. Thor_MN Aug 2017 #39
+1 CentralMass Aug 2017 #44
Those are good. I use these.... Adrahil Aug 2017 #11
Both of my sons are getting these for Christmas. redwitch Aug 2017 #14
I bought my daughter one as soon as she got a learner's permit. NT Adrahil Aug 2017 #15
Nice. CentralMass Aug 2017 #31
A spring-loaded center punch works too Cirque du So-What Aug 2017 #13
they are hard to find Mosby Aug 2017 #17
Hard? Any hardware store, home center, any where that sells tools will have them. Thor_MN Aug 2017 #22
That's not my experience Mosby Aug 2017 #40
Two minutes with Google. Most of that trying to highlight to copy. Thor_MN Aug 2017 #41
That's great they have them now. Mosby Aug 2017 #42
Oh sorry, didn't realize that you were still living 2007. Thor_MN Aug 2017 #45
Do you know what the word "discretely means"? cwydro Aug 2017 #43
Aren't you special? Thor_MN Aug 2017 #46
i really don't care what you're thinking. cwydro Aug 2017 #48
Then why bother replying to me? Thor_MN Aug 2017 #49
works for me grantcart Aug 2017 #62
A friend of mine drowned in his car. Kablooie Aug 2017 #16
Oh, this is horrible. I am not even sure about how fast one has to work in an ocean question everything Aug 2017 #53
Can't afford or find a hammer? Try a broken spark plug ceramic. icymist Aug 2017 #18
There are probably some locations where having this item oneshooter Aug 2017 #19
I have one of these under my driver's seat. lpbk2713 Aug 2017 #23
I find that a Slim Jim works better, is much quieter and doesn't make a mess! 😏 Floyd R. Turbo Aug 2017 #25
Good advice Warpy Aug 2017 #26
$5 Not Ruth Aug 2017 #27
Oh...if stuck in water. ... LSFL Aug 2017 #28
What's a Sears? TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #33
Or, a ResQMe. GoCubsGo Aug 2017 #38
That's a good tool because of the seat belt cutter, but maybe a better way is a center punch Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #47
The windows in my Olive are manual MrScorpio Aug 2017 #54
so are mine. riversedge Aug 2017 #57
So carrying a picture of tRump won't do the trick?? Best_man23 Aug 2017 #58
They work. raven mad Aug 2017 #63
If you think an automobile is your best means of escape from catastrophe you are likely wrong. hunter Aug 2017 #67
Here Is Something Already in Your Car Leith Aug 2017 #68

John1956PA

(2,667 posts)
35. Also, a spring-loaded centering punch will shatter a side window, BUT NOT A WINDSHIELD.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 05:41 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Thu Aug 31, 2017, 07:16 AM - Edit history (1)

Some drivers use an eighth-inch metal cable (or chain) to attach a centering punch to their vehicle's dashboard. Pressing the point of the punch firmly against a side window should shatter the window within an instant.

ON EDIT: Many thanks to the poster below who pointed out that the tool will not shatter a windshield. In my original post, I mistakenly wrote that the tool would shatter a windshield.

SethH

(170 posts)
36. that sounds too fun
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 05:46 PM
Aug 2017

if I had one of those, I don't think I could resist the temptation to try it out.

John1956PA

(2,667 posts)
64. Thank you for correcting me on this point (slight pun).
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 07:19 AM
Aug 2017

I have edited my post to point out that the center punch will shatter a side window, but not a windshield.



John1956PA

(2,667 posts)
70. It is a '56 or '57. I pulled the photo off of the Internet.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 06:50 PM
Aug 2017

I have never owned one of these cars. For many years, I dreamed about owning a 1958 Mark III, which is technically a Lincoln, even though some have suggested it is a Continental. Maintaining one of those cars, which were all convertibles, would require great commitment and cost outlay, which I can not afford.

Getting back to the 1956-57 Mark II Continentals, I think that, about ten years ago, it was possible to pick up a decent, worked-over unit for under $15k. Back then, a very nice unit could purchased for under $25k. It seems to me that the Mark II sale prices have increased since then. I am not in a position to invest in a classic car of this type. Although the maintenance costs would not be as steep as those for the '58, they would still be high. If you are able to invest in classic cars, I hope that you find good deals on models which appeal to you and which increase in value.

 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
71. if you are not sure, it's a 56 continental. never a lincoln! The most expensive car built in 56.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 07:06 PM
Aug 2017

In the world at that time the best luxury car.

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
2. Do not use a regular hammer unless there is nothing else.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:39 PM
Aug 2017

They bounce back after a amazingly hard blow.

You need a sharp tip-as the picture above shows.

An automatic center punch is a really easy tool for the job but wear thick gloves as your hand tends to push into the glass.

Auto yard work tells me so.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,352 posts)
59. You should be able to manage.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:09 PM
Aug 2017

Pick one up at the home store and give it a try. There are different settings for how much of a mark you want to make when using it as a punch. Press it against the steel display frame in the store.

I use them for marking tile for drilling. The punch makes a small chip in ceramic tile or natural stone. The chip makes drilling easier as the drill bit doesn't travel.

Though I don't see why one would use the punch on the windshield unless it is a last resort. The windshield is laminated with plastic so it would take a lot of force to get out even after the glass shatters.

All the other car windows will collapse in to mostly harmless tiny chunks.

Tempered glass is REALLY strong. But it is susceptible to concentrated force of other hard surfaces. That's why the center punch works.

More than a few people have learned the hard way setting expensive tempered shower doors down on tile. My neighbor moved a shower door we were installing in her bath. We had it set on towels but she moved it to clean. She set it on the tile and a piece of the corner popped off. She's very lucky it didn't explode in her hand.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
66. Just ordered one from Amazon, 9 bucks. Thanks for the video.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 03:33 PM
Aug 2017

Thanks for the video. I might need to keep a glove in the car, have hand problems.
Where we live is usually "safe" during hurricanes, but if we ever had to evacuate, flooded roads could be anywhere.

when I think how many people died in that storm because they did not know/realize how deep the water
was on the road, or got carried to deeper water because they did not realize 2 feet of water can float a car...yikes.

mitch96

(13,938 posts)
32. An automatic center punch is a really easy tool for the job
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 05:10 PM
Aug 2017

The trick is to either smack or center punch in the corner of the glass, like where the locking button use to be. It just crumbles.. Now getting to it in a hurry is gonna be interesting. First remove your seatbelt and lower the window or smash and out you go.. You have about 20 seconds.
I think you can get a little holder for the window hammer that attaches just under the steering wheel.
I live in So Fla and we have lots of canals that people drive into with not so good outcomes... I keep a center punch in the glove box just in case..
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MineralMan

(146,345 posts)
5. Yes. One of those needs to be in the center console of
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:42 PM
Aug 2017

every motor vehicle, or somewhere it can be accessed quickly. You just never know when you might need it to save a life, perhaps your own.

Girard442

(6,087 posts)
6. Mythbusters did the submerged car escape.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:43 PM
Aug 2017


Don't expect to break tempered glass with your fist or foot. "Kingsman" is just a movie.

MuseRider

(34,136 posts)
9. I put those exact items
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:44 PM
Aug 2017

in my husband and son's stockings one year for Christmas. I have mine in my car door pocket, my husband does as well. I should check my son's and see if they do because if they don't I will get them another one.

drray23

(7,638 posts)
10. yeah especially with modern cars where lowering the windows is electric.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:48 PM
Aug 2017

not sure if it would work when the car falls into the water or just short out..

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
21. 12 Volt systems will work fine submerged.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:34 PM
Aug 2017

They will not short out, but the battery will eventually fail if submerged.

The real problem is that as soon as the car starts sinking, a pressure differential forms that prevents the door from opening or the window from opening, power or manual.

Additionally, you may not be able swing a hammer with enough force under water. Water is much denser than air, if you wait until the water covers your arms, you may not be able to break the side window.

A better option is a spring loaded center punch. Place it against the window and push - no swing needed and will cause any side window to shatter into thousands of little pieces.

https://www.google.com/search?q=spring+loaded+center+punch&oq=spring+loaded+center+punch&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l4.30503.35678.0.40253.8.7.1.0.0.0.252.1172.0j6j1.7.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.8.1216...0i7i30k1j0i13k1.aoN9UXbK_Co

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
11. Those are good. I use these....
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:53 PM
Aug 2017
https://www.amazon.com/StatGear-Tactical-Auto-Rescue-Tool/dp/B0085P4TWW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1504122702&sr=8-6&keywords=rescue+tool

Belt cutter, knife (with serration incase you need to saw) and a SPRING-LOADED window breaker. Requires less room to use.... just press against the windshield and POP.

Also, it's hard to swing a hammer under water and get the right striking angle.


Cirque du So-What

(26,025 posts)
13. A spring-loaded center punch works too
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:55 PM
Aug 2017

So do 'ninja rocks' (illegal in California), which are shards of broken spark plug ceramic insulator - best broken up with a regular hammer in an old sock.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
22. Hard? Any hardware store, home center, any where that sells tools will have them.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:39 PM
Aug 2017

Spring loaded center punches are a better tool than a hammer to break a car side window than a hammer.

I've seen videos of reporters bouncing hammers of car windows. One push of a punch will shatter it, incidentally much more discretely than a big swing of a hammer.

Mosby

(16,401 posts)
40. That's not my experience
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:29 PM
Aug 2017

When I looked for one about 10 years ago I couldn't find one at home depot, ace or true value.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
41. Two minutes with Google. Most of that trying to highlight to copy.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:40 PM
Aug 2017

Home Depot
Model # 70079H
Internet #206007134
Store SKU #1001389632


Ace
Item no: 25787 | 038728310620

True Value
GENERAL TOOLS MFG model # 77 item # 601823

Mosby

(16,401 posts)
42. That's great they have them now.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:23 PM
Aug 2017

The one at harbor freight is about 25% the price of the HD husky one.

It's made of brass and chrome vanadium steel and it's only $3.99.


https://www.harborfreight.com/spring-loaded-center-punch-621.html



 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
45. Oh sorry, didn't realize that you were still living 2007.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:26 PM
Aug 2017

By the way, the Powerball numbers for 9/22/2007 are going to be 04,09,18,43,55 with PB 03

Enjoy.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
43. Do you know what the word "discretely means"?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:38 PM
Aug 2017

And it is different from "discreetly."

Two different words, and neither of them fits in your sentence. Look 'em up.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
46. Aren't you special?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:28 PM
Aug 2017

I admire your ability to think you know what I am trying to say.

Guess what I'm thinking now.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
48. i really don't care what you're thinking.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:34 PM
Aug 2017

But I do know you have no grasp of vocabulary.

Did you look up those two words?

Nah, you didn't.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
49. Then why bother replying to me?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:35 PM
Aug 2017

Your actions don't match your words, clearly I have no fucking clue what you are thinking...

Kablooie

(18,645 posts)
16. A friend of mine drowned in his car.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:06 PM
Aug 2017

He let another person drive and they went over a cliff into the ocean on highway 1. One passenger survived. Horrible and tragic.

question everything

(47,568 posts)
53. Oh, this is horrible. I am not even sure about how fast one has to work in an ocean
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:48 PM
Aug 2017

I think that all the examples are for creeks, rivers, or flooded roads.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
18. Can't afford or find a hammer? Try a broken spark plug ceramic.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:22 PM
Aug 2017


The volume is recorded real low in this one:

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
19. There are probably some locations where having this item
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:23 PM
Aug 2017

"readily available" to the driver and/or passengers is illegal. Check your local laws.

Warpy

(111,417 posts)
26. Good advice
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:56 PM
Aug 2017

Flash flood water here moves so fast that 6-8 inches can take small cars and it gets deep very fast.

I see clouds in the hills and flowing water in a deep dip in a road, I stop and wait the half hour or so it takes to go away.

LSFL

(1,110 posts)
28. Oh...if stuck in water. ...
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 05:00 PM
Aug 2017

I have been using mine on pro trump bumper sticker whips. After all they broke the back glass of my cherokee because of a Hillary sticker. I figure I might get the culprit eventually. Anyway, thay all deserve it!

GoCubsGo

(32,099 posts)
38. Or, a ResQMe.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 05:52 PM
Aug 2017

It breaks glass and cuts seat belts. You can get them for as little as five bucks. Available at Walmart, on Amazon, eBay, and numerous other web sites.

Stinky The Clown

(67,838 posts)
47. That's a good tool because of the seat belt cutter, but maybe a better way is a center punch
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:30 PM
Aug 2017

A spring loaded center punch, to be exact. Harbor Freight has them for just a few bucks, but really you can get them anywhere tools are sold.

In practice, you need only press the point against the glass. No need to cock or arm it. Just push it into the glass. The internal spring sets itself with pressure and when it reaches full travel, releases with more than enough force to break the glass. The required strength to do this is remarkably low. Even the elderly or physically challenged, it seems to me, have a better chance for success that even with that pointed hammer.

Here is a youtube showing it in action.

Best_man23

(4,914 posts)
58. So carrying a picture of tRump won't do the trick??
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:58 PM
Aug 2017
...I have spring loaded center punches in my cars.

I've thought about the seat belt cutter, as I experienced the jammed seat belt latch in a non-emergency situation.

hunter

(38,340 posts)
67. If you think an automobile is your best means of escape from catastrophe you are likely wrong.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 04:12 PM
Aug 2017

Especially when everyone else is thinking the same thing.

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