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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust a reminder: eveyryone should carry a hammer to break car windows
if stuck in water
http://www.sears.com/search=emergency%20hammer%20to%20break%20glass
(am not promoting Sears, Amazon has them, too)
kairos12
(12,892 posts)question everything
(47,568 posts)John1956PA
(2,667 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 31, 2017, 07:16 AM - Edit history (1)
Some drivers use an eighth-inch metal cable (or chain) to attach a centering punch to their vehicle's dashboard. Pressing the point of the punch firmly against a side window should shatter the window within an instant.
ON EDIT: Many thanks to the poster below who pointed out that the tool will not shatter a windshield. In my original post, I mistakenly wrote that the tool would shatter a windshield.
SethH
(170 posts)if I had one of those, I don't think I could resist the temptation to try it out.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)John1956PA
(2,667 posts)I have edited my post to point out that the center punch will shatter a side window, but not a windshield.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)John1956PA
(2,667 posts)I have never owned one of these cars. For many years, I dreamed about owning a 1958 Mark III, which is technically a Lincoln, even though some have suggested it is a Continental. Maintaining one of those cars, which were all convertibles, would require great commitment and cost outlay, which I can not afford.
Getting back to the 1956-57 Mark II Continentals, I think that, about ten years ago, it was possible to pick up a decent, worked-over unit for under $15k. Back then, a very nice unit could purchased for under $25k. It seems to me that the Mark II sale prices have increased since then. I am not in a position to invest in a classic car of this type. Although the maintenance costs would not be as steep as those for the '58, they would still be high. If you are able to invest in classic cars, I hope that you find good deals on models which appeal to you and which increase in value.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)In the world at that time the best luxury car.
Boxerfan
(2,533 posts)They bounce back after a amazingly hard blow.
You need a sharp tip-as the picture above shows.
An automatic center punch is a really easy tool for the job but wear thick gloves as your hand tends to push into the glass.
Auto yard work tells me so.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Would this type of tool be effective?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,352 posts)Pick one up at the home store and give it a try. There are different settings for how much of a mark you want to make when using it as a punch. Press it against the steel display frame in the store.
I use them for marking tile for drilling. The punch makes a small chip in ceramic tile or natural stone. The chip makes drilling easier as the drill bit doesn't travel.
Though I don't see why one would use the punch on the windshield unless it is a last resort. The windshield is laminated with plastic so it would take a lot of force to get out even after the glass shatters.
All the other car windows will collapse in to mostly harmless tiny chunks.
Tempered glass is REALLY strong. But it is susceptible to concentrated force of other hard surfaces. That's why the center punch works.
More than a few people have learned the hard way setting expensive tempered shower doors down on tile. My neighbor moved a shower door we were installing in her bath. We had it set on towels but she moved it to clean. She set it on the tile and a piece of the corner popped off. She's very lucky it didn't explode in her hand.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Thanks for the video. I might need to keep a glove in the car, have hand problems.
Where we live is usually "safe" during hurricanes, but if we ever had to evacuate, flooded roads could be anywhere.
when I think how many people died in that storm because they did not know/realize how deep the water
was on the road, or got carried to deeper water because they did not realize 2 feet of water can float a car...yikes.
mitch96
(13,938 posts)The trick is to either smack or center punch in the corner of the glass, like where the locking button use to be. It just crumbles.. Now getting to it in a hurry is gonna be interesting. First remove your seatbelt and lower the window or smash and out you go.. You have about 20 seconds.
I think you can get a little holder for the window hammer that attaches just under the steering wheel.
I live in So Fla and we have lots of canals that people drive into with not so good outcomes... I keep a center punch in the glove box just in case..
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Shrike47
(6,913 posts)IggleDuer
(964 posts)underpants
(182,988 posts)Good one!
question everything
(47,568 posts)they do mention high heels shoes..
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)but in a fun sort of way. Welcome!
dembotoz
(16,864 posts)bellmartin
(218 posts)MineralMan
(146,345 posts)every motor vehicle, or somewhere it can be accessed quickly. You just never know when you might need it to save a life, perhaps your own.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,947 posts)MineralMan
(146,345 posts)I hope I never need to use them.
Girard442
(6,087 posts)Don't expect to break tempered glass with your fist or foot. "Kingsman" is just a movie.
mitch96
(13,938 posts)Got to give the lady props for doing this scary thing...
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question everything
(47,568 posts)and, of course, the woman there is quite athletic...
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)I sure learn a lot of things from the Mythbusters team! They make science fun.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)MuseRider
(34,136 posts)in my husband and son's stockings one year for Christmas. I have mine in my car door pocket, my husband does as well. I should check my son's and see if they do because if they don't I will get them another one.
drray23
(7,638 posts)not sure if it would work when the car falls into the water or just short out..
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)They will not short out, but the battery will eventually fail if submerged.
The real problem is that as soon as the car starts sinking, a pressure differential forms that prevents the door from opening or the window from opening, power or manual.
Additionally, you may not be able swing a hammer with enough force under water. Water is much denser than air, if you wait until the water covers your arms, you may not be able to break the side window.
A better option is a spring loaded center punch. Place it against the window and push - no swing needed and will cause any side window to shatter into thousands of little pieces.
https://www.google.com/search?q=spring+loaded+center+punch&oq=spring+loaded+center+punch&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l4.30503.35678.0.40253.8.7.1.0.0.0.252.1172.0j6j1.7.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.8.1216...0i7i30k1j0i13k1.aoN9UXbK_Co
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)However the belt cutter is another issue.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Belt cutter, knife (with serration incase you need to saw) and a SPRING-LOADED window breaker. Requires less room to use.... just press against the windshield and POP.
Also, it's hard to swing a hammer under water and get the right striking angle.
redwitch
(14,952 posts)Great gift idea!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Cirque du So-What
(26,025 posts)So do 'ninja rocks' (illegal in California), which are shards of broken spark plug ceramic insulator - best broken up with a regular hammer in an old sock.
Mosby
(16,401 posts)I found one a while back at Harbor Freight.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Spring loaded center punches are a better tool than a hammer to break a car side window than a hammer.
I've seen videos of reporters bouncing hammers of car windows. One push of a punch will shatter it, incidentally much more discretely than a big swing of a hammer.
Mosby
(16,401 posts)When I looked for one about 10 years ago I couldn't find one at home depot, ace or true value.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Home Depot
Model # 70079H
Internet #206007134
Store SKU #1001389632
Ace
Item no: 25787 | 038728310620
True Value
GENERAL TOOLS MFG model # 77 item # 601823
Mosby
(16,401 posts)The one at harbor freight is about 25% the price of the HD husky one.
It's made of brass and chrome vanadium steel and it's only $3.99.
https://www.harborfreight.com/spring-loaded-center-punch-621.html
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)By the way, the Powerball numbers for 9/22/2007 are going to be 04,09,18,43,55 with PB 03
Enjoy.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)And it is different from "discreetly."
Two different words, and neither of them fits in your sentence. Look 'em up.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)I admire your ability to think you know what I am trying to say.
Guess what I'm thinking now.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But I do know you have no grasp of vocabulary.
Did you look up those two words?
Nah, you didn't.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Your actions don't match your words, clearly I have no fucking clue what you are thinking...
grantcart
(53,061 posts)apart or detached from others; separate; distinct:
six discrete parts.
Kablooie
(18,645 posts)He let another person drive and they went over a cliff into the ocean on highway 1. One passenger survived. Horrible and tragic.
question everything
(47,568 posts)I think that all the examples are for creeks, rivers, or flooded roads.
icymist
(15,888 posts)The volume is recorded real low in this one:
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)"readily available" to the driver and/or passengers is illegal. Check your local laws.
lpbk2713
(42,772 posts)I see it as a multi-purpose device.
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,696 posts)What? Oh! Nevermind!
Warpy
(111,417 posts)Flash flood water here moves so fast that 6-8 inches can take small cars and it gets deep very fast.
I see clouds in the hills and flowing water in a deep dip in a road, I stop and wait the half hour or so it takes to go away.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)LSFL
(1,110 posts)I have been using mine on pro trump bumper sticker whips. After all they broke the back glass of my cherokee because of a Hillary sticker. I figure I might get the culprit eventually. Anyway, thay all deserve it!
TheBlackAdder
(28,242 posts)...just kidding!
GoCubsGo
(32,099 posts)It breaks glass and cuts seat belts. You can get them for as little as five bucks. Available at Walmart, on Amazon, eBay, and numerous other web sites.
Stinky The Clown
(67,838 posts)A spring loaded center punch, to be exact. Harbor Freight has them for just a few bucks, but really you can get them anywhere tools are sold.
In practice, you need only press the point against the glass. No need to cock or arm it. Just push it into the glass. The internal spring sets itself with pressure and when it reaches full travel, releases with more than enough force to break the glass. The required strength to do this is remarkably low. Even the elderly or physically challenged, it seems to me, have a better chance for success that even with that pointed hammer.
Here is a youtube showing it in action.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Remember those?
riversedge
(70,413 posts)Best_man23
(4,914 posts)I've thought about the seat belt cutter, as I experienced the jammed seat belt latch in a non-emergency situation.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Another source, that includes a seatbelt cutter, as this one does:
https://www.amazon.com/Towallmark-Seatbelt-Cutter-Breaker-Emergency/dp/B002AMAXNA
hunter
(38,340 posts)Especially when everyone else is thinking the same thing.
Leith
(7,814 posts)Probably. The headrest. This site shows you how.