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Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 07:50 PM Aug 2017

Progressive Berkeley Mayor calls on Antifa to be declared a criminal gang under California law

Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin says “I think we should classify them as a gang. They come dressed in uniforms. They have weapons, almost like a militia, and I think we need to think about that in terms of our law enforcement approach.”

"We also need to hold accountable and encourage people not to associate with these extremists because it empowers them and gives them cover,” said Arreguin.

Under California law, a gang is defined as an organization of at least three persons, with a common name, or identifying mark or symbol, which engages in criminal activity. Criminals who commit offenses for gangs can face tougher sentences in the state.

For those who are unaware, Jesse Arreguin defeated a very liberal Democratic opponent in the mayor race in Berkeley in 2016 as the more left-leaning candidate in the race. And he's calling Antifa a gang.

Time to stop giving Antifa any cover here on DU in my estimation.


http://www.newsweek.com/berkeley-mayor-calls-antifa-be-classified-crime-gang-after-clashes-sunday-656286

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Progressive Berkeley Mayor calls on Antifa to be declared a criminal gang under California law (Original Post) Expecting Rain Aug 2017 OP
What about neo-nazis? Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #1
I agree with you. marybourg Aug 2017 #2
How about labelling the GOP a gang? ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #3
Perfect. LakeArenal Aug 2017 #4
Is he talking about Black Bloc? Because that's not antifa. EllieBC Aug 2017 #5
The left keeps falling for these antifa lies obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #7
No, he specifies Antifa, and quite rightly IMO. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #10
I consider the Antifa heroes obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #6
Fascist's LIVE To Villify The Resistance ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #8
Are you calling the left-wing Bernie Sanders-endored Mayor of Berkeley a "Fascist"? Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #11
Dropping all the buzz phrases now aren't we? ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #12
You are the one accusing people of being fascist sympathizers. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #15
Antifa's street violence helped propel the Nazis to power. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #14
I see nothing wrong with this statement tymorial Aug 2017 #9
If they show up masked and wearing Antifa gear, police should oasis Aug 2017 #13

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
1. What about neo-nazis?
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:03 PM
Aug 2017

I'm not at all a fan of some anarchist tactics, but it seems a little unbalanced to go after them, and not the other guys, who are actual hate groups.

marybourg

(12,618 posts)
2. I agree with you.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:06 PM
Aug 2017

They're making it dangerous for peaceful protesters to show up. I was afraid to go to the Phoenix protest, in part because of them. I'm too old and frail now to be arrested just for being in the wrong spot.

I've been to many demonstrations in my life, but never to a violent one, and I want to be free to keep going when necessary. I don't want masked, weapon-carrying, window smashing thugs at my protests.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. How about labelling the GOP a gang?
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:07 PM
Aug 2017

They have a common name (GOP), engage in criminal activity, and there are certainly more than three of them.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
5. Is he talking about Black Bloc? Because that's not antifa.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:16 PM
Aug 2017

Black Bloc just shows up to mess up everything because they love some chaos.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
10. No, he specifies Antifa, and quite rightly IMO.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:36 PM
Aug 2017

Mayor Arreguin says it is time to stop giving Antifa cover, and I agree 100%.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
6. I consider the Antifa heroes
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:19 PM
Aug 2017

And people on the Left falling for these Fascist lies against the Antifa are ridiculous. The Nazis did the same thing to the Antifa in Germany in the 30s.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
8. Fascist's LIVE To Villify The Resistance
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:24 PM
Aug 2017

And the sheeple fall for it because it makes them feel safe. Oldest tactic in the warfare book.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
11. Are you calling the left-wing Bernie Sanders-endored Mayor of Berkeley a "Fascist"?
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:38 PM
Aug 2017

Because that's simply not a credible charge.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
14. Antifa's street violence helped propel the Nazis to power.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:48 PM
Aug 2017

It is a shame if we learn nothing from history.

As Naom Chomsky said recently. Antifa is a gift to the right-wing. Antifa violence feeds the Nazis.

Liberals should follow the lead of the Mayor of Berkeley (a guy that know what he's dealing with first-hand) and utterly reject the organized violence of Antifa.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
9. I see nothing wrong with this statement
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:24 PM
Aug 2017

If we abhor violence than we should abhor violence. The person engaging the activity should not matter nor the victim.

I find it rather hypocritical that we protest the abusive treatment of criminals by prisons and the justice system while ignoring or outright supporting violence by individuals who organize under Antifa. Yes their targets are horrible people but are we going to now qualify abuse of criminals who have committed horrible acts as acceptable?

oasis

(49,376 posts)
13. If they show up masked and wearing Antifa gear, police should
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:47 PM
Aug 2017

immediately order them from the scene. If they refuse, load the paddy wagons with their asses and begin paperwork on them so we know who they really are.

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