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BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 04:46 PM Aug 2017

Now he is defending pardon by naming past Dem presidents

from the past 30 years going all the back to the Weathermen who pardoned people for various reasons. He knew he would get this question and had his list ready. They read the same list on Fux Ruse last Fri (I watched Fux out of curiousity).

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Now he is defending pardon by naming past Dem presidents (Original Post) BigmanPigman Aug 2017 OP
Were any of these people pardoned before the end of their trials or chelsea0011 Aug 2017 #1
afaik they only had sentences commuted. unblock Aug 2017 #2
Not all of them MichMan Aug 2017 #6
He was the first one I thought of Yupster Aug 2017 #8
there is no bottom too low for this classless act. spanone Aug 2017 #3
Pardoning someone who has already spent time, sometimes decades, in prison TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #4
Marc Rich fled to Switzerland and never even faced trial nm MichMan Aug 2017 #7
And I didn't approve of his pardon n/t TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #9
So weak - whataboutism. At least he's on the defensive leftstreet Aug 2017 #5

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
1. Were any of these people pardoned before the end of their trials or
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 04:49 PM
Aug 2017

did they all go to jail after their trials and were then pardoned?

MichMan

(11,900 posts)
6. Not all of them
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:15 PM
Aug 2017

Marc Rich faced 65 criminal indictments and fled to Switzerland to avoid prosecution. At one time he was on the FBI 10 most wanted list

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
8. He was the first one I thought of
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:25 PM
Aug 2017

He wasn't even sentenced. He ran away from the country before his trial was to begin.

He was to be tried for trading with Iran while it was holding the US hostages and as the largest tax evasion case in US history. He was on the FBI's 10 most wanted list for years and supposedly they almost got him in Finland one time, in the Caribbean, and in England. Each time he fled before they could spring their trap.

On Bill Clinton's last day in office, he reached across the Atlantic to grant Rich a pardon.

Before the pardon, Rich's wife donated $ 100,000 to Hillary's senate campaign, $ 1 million to the DNC and $ 450,000 to the Clinton Presidential library.

spanone

(135,816 posts)
3. there is no bottom too low for this classless act.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 04:52 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:27 PM - Edit history (1)

yes, he actually pulled a list out of his pocket and read off it.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
4. Pardoning someone who has already spent time, sometimes decades, in prison
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:12 PM
Aug 2017

is entirely differently from someone who hasn't spent a day.

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