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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:27 PM Aug 2017

Appears Houston Mostly Built On Ancient Swamp Land. Prone To Flooding.

If you look very carefully the bayou system that was designed to drain water from the Houston area was like part of a much older swampy area. My guess is that the land was more or less dried out when the bayous were contained over time and channelled to by used as a flood control system. Of course in recent memory it is likely that as Houston grew more and more questionable land was developed between the low areas.

A lot of the flooding looks like is in lower areas that were ancient drainages. And it is likely that no one was around when this area was largely a swamp.

It may be that Houston should have never been developed.

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Appears Houston Mostly Built On Ancient Swamp Land. Prone To Flooding. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Aug 2017 OP
Urbanization causes floods to be higher just because of impervious surfaces. NutmegYankee Aug 2017 #1
There's no "appears" here Pope George Ringo II Aug 2017 #2
No basements, water table too high, houses built on slabs Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #3
Common all over the south regardless of the water table Major Nikon Aug 2017 #11
With highly expansive clays, high soil moisture, and a shallow frost line, it's not economical. NutmegYankee Aug 2017 #16
So basements are more a northern thing? dembotoz Aug 2017 #18
I have a daylight basement, very common Ilsa Aug 2017 #19
My dehumidifier runs all summer and off when furnace season starts dembotoz Aug 2017 #21
It's more uncommon in the North to not have one. NutmegYankee Aug 2017 #22
Isn't NOLA below sea level? KatyMan Aug 2017 #4
Don't forget tornadoes in the midwest. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #5
They must be really stupid to live there KatyMan Aug 2017 #6
The moon, sarisataka Aug 2017 #9
Gets hit by asteroids all the time. Kentonio Aug 2017 #12
Damn... sarisataka Aug 2017 #13
It should have been developed inland Warpy Aug 2017 #7
Houston was developed in response to Galveston's hurricane LeftInTX Aug 2017 #8
The Problem Is Sensible Development. No Place I Perfectly Safe. TheMastersNemesis Aug 2017 #10
So is Houston better, worse sarisataka Aug 2017 #14
Pick your poison. n/t cloudbase Aug 2017 #17
How is this helpful? blogslut Aug 2017 #15
Lets remove all the homes and hotels off Ilsa Aug 2017 #20

NutmegYankee

(16,205 posts)
1. Urbanization causes floods to be higher just because of impervious surfaces.
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:31 PM
Aug 2017

The buildings, concrete, and asphalt don't absorb rain and just channel it to runoff zones. In a natural landscape the rain would take much longer to to work it's way down to the river waterways.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
2. There's no "appears" here
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:37 PM
Aug 2017

Large parts of the city are nominally reclaimed swampland, period. As it is, modern medicine is the only thing allowing it to be survivable, and nobody even remotely sane would live here until modern air conditioning. It's actually a nice place most of the time, but tropical storms just blow the place up.

NutmegYankee

(16,205 posts)
16. With highly expansive clays, high soil moisture, and a shallow frost line, it's not economical.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 03:00 AM
Aug 2017

Up in the Northeast the frost line is 3-5 feet below ground, making basements a good idea. Hell, even deck supports in my area require a 48" depth to avoid the frost line. Also, the glacial till soils don't swell like southern clay and drain well.

Having relocated over a decade ago, I have come to love the utility of a basement.

Ilsa

(61,712 posts)
19. I have a daylight basement, very common
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:30 AM
Aug 2017

in areas where the land has frequent variations in altitude or just grade. My basement is underground on three out of four sides. It stays cool in summer, although I run a dehumidifier.

NutmegYankee

(16,205 posts)
22. It's more uncommon in the North to not have one.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:31 PM
Aug 2017

In many areas of the south, usually low lying coastal plains, basements are virtually non-existent. Houses are either on a slab or a crawlspace. Other areas do put them in, often in hilly areas where the soil drains better.

KatyMan

(4,218 posts)
4. Isn't NOLA below sea level?
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:46 PM
Aug 2017

SF and LA are in earthquake prone areas, the northeast gets pummeled by snow sometimes and the Pacific northwest and Hawaii have volcanoes. Should we live anywhere?

sarisataka

(18,899 posts)
9. The moon,
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 06:13 PM
Aug 2017

It's geologically stable, no air so no storms, no flooding issues, pretty much ideal from a natural disaster perspective

LeftInTX

(25,763 posts)
8. Houston was developed in response to Galveston's hurricane
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 06:11 PM
Aug 2017

Drainages/bayous that are near sea level have often changed course over time.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
10. The Problem Is Sensible Development. No Place I Perfectly Safe.
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 06:19 PM
Aug 2017

Sensible development is staying out of the most dangerous areas and to mitigate reasonably the dangers that do exist where one does develop. What ever the danger damage and loss of life can be protected. We develop in so many areas where there should be none. And we fail to take protective measure where there is remaining dangers we cannot reasonable avoid.

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