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dalton99a

(81,704 posts)
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:39 PM Aug 2017

Harvey is causing 'epic catastrophic flooding' in Houston. Why wasn't the city evacuated? (WP)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/08/27/harvey-is-causing-epic-catastrophic-flooding-in-houston-why-wasnt-the-city-evacuated/
Harvey is causing ‘epic catastrophic flooding’ in Houston. Why wasn’t the city evacuated?
By Amy B Wang and Cleve R. Wootson Jr. | August 27 at 11:35 AM

Through Sunday morning, Harvey continued to unleash record levels of rain on Houston, causing “catastrophic” flooding in the city and in surrounding Harris County. At least one storm-related death in Houston was reported on Sunday, after a woman was found dead by her water-deluged car.

Over 24 hours, the greater Houston and Galveston area received 24.1 inches of rain. The National Weather Service warned of “additional catastrophic, unprecedented and life threatening flooding” into the next week, and placed flash-flood emergencies for all of Southeast Texas.

As the much-anticipated storm pummeled the country’s fourth-largest city — overwhelming the 911 system and sending some residents, against the advice of officials, into their attics to flee floodwaters — many asked the question: Should Houston have been evacuated? If so, why wasn’t it?

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Harvey is causing 'epic catastrophic flooding' in Houston. Why wasn't the city evacuated? (WP) (Original Post) dalton99a Aug 2017 OP
They were afraid of what might happen in an evacuation Not Ruth Aug 2017 #1
Right. Because they knew what they were doing. Hortensis Aug 2017 #10
Houston and the greater Houston area is rather large. Demtexan Aug 2017 #2
Stay safe! Iliyah Aug 2017 #3
Thank you. Demtexan Aug 2017 #4
4th largest city in the country. nt marybourg Aug 2017 #5
6+ million people in the greater Houston area mcar Aug 2017 #6
Looks just like NOLA MFM008 Aug 2017 #7
Except Houston isn't below sea level TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #9
I see that MFM008 Aug 2017 #12
Oh yes TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #15
More people would die in the evacuation than staying in place. Staying in place does not mean haveahart Aug 2017 #8
Exactly TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #16
Realistically you can't evacuate Houston unless given lots of time. LisaL Aug 2017 #11
I am from Houston.... Blue Dalek Aug 2017 #13
Dickinson is even worse malaise Aug 2017 #14
Fresh water Johnny2X2X Aug 2017 #17

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Right. Because they knew what they were doing.
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:37 PM
Aug 2017

Well over 6 million in the metro area, by the way, most of whom are sheltering snug in their own homes right now, hoping the power doesn't go out or go out again.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
2. Houston and the greater Houston area is rather large.
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:51 PM
Aug 2017

We have a major problem with over building.

Cement everyways.

My old neighbor is be town housed to death.

A lot of this flood is run off.

Rain used go into the ground.

O.hell it raining again.

We had a 15 minute break.

mcar

(42,466 posts)
6. 6+ million people in the greater Houston area
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 02:27 PM
Aug 2017

It would take more than a few days to do an evacuation.

Houston's AA Democratic mayor is being scapegoated.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,250 posts)
9. Except Houston isn't below sea level
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:36 PM
Aug 2017

Evacuation orders were issued for the coastal areas, as well as areas close to waterways prone to flooding. Most of the areas flooding now have flooded before. Not all, but most. Many people have evacuated. The ones who haven't are often poor and/or elderly.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,250 posts)
15. Oh yes
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:24 PM
Aug 2017

The fact that we're up to 59' above sea level and still having this kind of flooding says something. But we're just so fucking flat. Within some downward momentum, the water can't flow fast enough.

 

haveahart

(905 posts)
8. More people would die in the evacuation than staying in place. Staying in place does not mean
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 03:04 PM
Aug 2017

trying to move around in the flood waters.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,250 posts)
16. Exactly
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:33 PM
Aug 2017

I just saw a family that had been evacuated from their 2 story townhome. They had about 3 feet of water on the first floor and that was likely to rise. They were not in any life threatening danger. A lot of people are in that kind of situation.

I live in a ground floor apartment. If the water starts to rise come in my apartment, I go upstairs and hope one of my neighbors has mercy on me. Otherwise, I hang out on the landing. But I'm not in any danger unless I decide to go swimming.

LisaL

(44,982 posts)
11. Realistically you can't evacuate Houston unless given lots of time.
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:39 PM
Aug 2017

Too many people too few roads out.

Blue Dalek

(178 posts)
13. I am from Houston....
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:10 PM
Aug 2017

and was there when Hurricane Rita was supposed to hit Houston in 2005 three weeks after Katrina. Evacuations were asked. Everyone and their brother evacuated all at the same time. I picked up my elderly mother who lives close to Galveston. 6 hours later, we were still in Houston. A 3.5 hour drive to Austin was a 24 hour drive. No, 6 million people cannot be evacuated in a couple of days.

malaise

(269,280 posts)
14. Dickinson is even worse
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:18 PM
Aug 2017

and they were told to stay home



Following a plea heard all across social media, dozens of residents of a Dickinson nursing home have been safely evacuated in the midst of the epic flooding gripping the greater Houston area.

The photo of residents of La Vita Bella seemingly calmly sitting in wheelchairs and on sofas in water greater than waist-deep was widely circulated as viewers tried to determine its authenticity.

Ken Clark with the Galveston Office of Emergency Services confirms that photo was indeed real, and says that 20 - 25 residents have been evacuated to safety.

http://abc13.com/weather/viral-photo-dozens-rescued-from-flooded-nursing-home/2347953/

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Thankfully the nursing home photo went viral an others were rescued

Johnny2X2X

(19,262 posts)
17. Fresh water
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:37 PM
Aug 2017

A massive effort needs to be underway to get fresh water and food to people. This could be weeks before water is back up.

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