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Sun Aug 27, 2017, 11:05 AM

Watching the mayor of Houston give a press briefing

He seems to have a handle on the situation, as much as anyone could. I would be interested in hearing what the folks of Houston think of him.

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Reply Watching the mayor of Houston give a press briefing (Original post)
Phoenix61 Aug 2017 OP
cloudbase Aug 2017 #1
femmedem Aug 2017 #2
TheDebbieDee Aug 2017 #3
femmedem Aug 2017 #4
tammywammy Aug 2017 #5
dalton99a Aug 2017 #16
WinkyDink Aug 2017 #6
uponit7771 Aug 2017 #9
LisaL Aug 2017 #10
jbond56 Aug 2017 #20
LisaL Aug 2017 #8
LisaL Aug 2017 #7
highplainsdem Aug 2017 #11
LisaL Aug 2017 #12
highplainsdem Aug 2017 #14
LisaL Aug 2017 #15
highplainsdem Aug 2017 #17
haele Aug 2017 #13
bluepen Aug 2017 #22
MiniMe Aug 2017 #18
TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #19
MiniMe Aug 2017 #21
LisaL Aug 2017 #23

Response to Phoenix61 (Original post)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 11:12 AM

1. He's a good guy. Former state representative.

He wasn't my state rep, but his district covered a chunk of my school district. He and his staff were always available to discuss issues.
Although I'm not eligible to vote in city elections, I happily gave him a campaign contribution.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Original post)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 11:14 AM

2. Unfortunately he discouraged people from evacuating several days ago.



"Please think twice before trying to leave Houston en masse. No evacuation orders have been issued for the city. #Harvey
2:49 PM - 25 Aug 2017 "

and

"Ignore unfounded, unsourced weather predictions that have needlessly frightened Houstonians. Get info from trusted outlets. @HoustonOEM"

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Response to femmedem (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:09 PM

3. Because he knew that tens of thousands of them would wind up

 

stranded in traffic jams on the major highways out of town just as it happened during a hurricane in 2007 or 2008...

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:14 PM

4. Ah. thanks. Yes, the worst is being trapped in your vehicle. n/t

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:29 PM

5. It was the 2005 Hurricane Rita evacuation

It took people 24 hours to get from Houston to Dallas - normally a 4 hour drive.

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:00 PM

16. It was probably the longest parking lot in the world

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:31 PM

6. It would be better if they all waited for the flooding?

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:39 PM

9. RIGHT !!!

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:42 PM

10. Better than what? I don't understand what you are asking.

If millions tried to evacuate in a short period of time, they would end up stuck on highways/freeways.
So what do you think would happen to people stuck on highways/freeways in their cars in all this rain?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:17 PM

20. They would be easier to find they would have drowned in ther cars.

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:35 PM

8. Yep, that's about it.

People here keep talking how important it is to evacuate. Well, you can't really evacuate millions out of Houston in a short period of time without them getting stuck on the roads.

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Response to femmedem (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:33 PM

7. Because you can't really evacuate Houston in that short period of time.

Where do you think all those millions of people were going to go? They would be stuck on the road, which would make it even more dangerous for them.

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Response to femmedem (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:46 PM

11. Any plan to evacuate Houston on short notice would require statewide cooperation and state/federal

resources, available on just hours' notice.

The mayor and city government alone can't manage an evacuation of millions of people. And if they initiate it, without detailed plans and guarantees of that state and federal help, they'll just compound the disaster by clogging the highways and roads.

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:48 PM

12. And probably wouldn't work anyway. Too many people, too few roads leading out.

They told Houston to evacuate during hurricane Rita and people just got stuck on highways. You basically need a lot of time to evacuate Houston.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:55 PM

14. True. Especially given the distance most would have to drive.

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:57 PM

15. They'd be stuck on freeways/highways, and at least some freeways appear to be flooding.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #15)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:03 PM

17. And many would simply run out of gas.

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Response to femmedem (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:53 PM

13. Even coordinating evacuations at that scale is problematic if you've only a few days.

The best thing to do would be to stage area evacuations due to danger levels, but human nature would turn the best plans into a clusterf$** quickly as too many people who aren't facing life-threatening risks will make it all about them and demand their needs come first, and others in the danger areas will ignore plans and warnings because the last time they got hit with a hurricane or flood, it wasn't worth the effort to evacuate.

And a mass panic evacuation will be worse than no official evacuation, with people caught out in the openin gridlock when the effects first hit.

Haele

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Response to femmedem (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:21 PM

22. "Ignore unsourced weather predictions that have needlessly frightened"

Yeah. Which predictions were those?

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Response to Phoenix61 (Original post)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:11 PM

18. I thought the original forecast was to hit Corpus Christi

Guess it changed course a bit.

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Response to MiniMe (Reply #18)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:16 PM

19. It did hit north of Corpus Christi

This is the rain from the outer bands of the storm. We knew it was coming. Personally, I thought about driving to Dallas, but decided to stay here with my cats.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #19)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:20 PM

21. That makes sense, thanks

Hope you are staying dry as possible at this point.

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Response to MiniMe (Reply #18)

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:23 PM

23. It didn't change course. It didn't directly hit Houston.

But because Harvey is very slowly moving over land, it's bringing in a lot of rain.

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