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When and why did Americans become so apathetic about politics? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Aug 2017 OP
They've been trained by the talking box in their living room. Iggo Aug 2017 #1
yup Chipper Chat Aug 2017 #2
+1 nt steve2470 Aug 2017 #5
absolutely NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #11
Yep. nt jrthin Aug 2017 #15
Per Wikipedia customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #19
Many will never vote democratic. I don't think they can even really tell you why lunasun Aug 2017 #3
in the 19th century, before movies and TV and radio etc, political rallies were one of the few.... steve2470 Aug 2017 #4
What about the 1960s and the "baby boomers" who were (past tense) BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #8
it was just the time for new forms, and time for activism.... steve2470 Aug 2017 #12
There is actually way to much politics that is mostly ugly. democratisphere Aug 2017 #6
The turning point seemed to be Watergate and Nixon Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2017 #7
I agree, definitely a form of self-defense nt steve2470 Aug 2017 #14
Who really cares? That is boring!! guillaumeb Aug 2017 #9
Some people just like to bitch.. LakeArenal Aug 2017 #10
After 1996 with the Telecommunications Act, allowing corporations no_hypocrisy Aug 2017 #13
When politicians stopped responding to citizen movements leftstreet Aug 2017 #16
apathy is going to lose us election in 2018 and 2020 AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #17
Maybe when they kept voting for things shanny Aug 2017 #18
I think cable news is a factor LeftInTX Aug 2017 #20
Your very question is a symptom of the problem Kaleva Aug 2017 #21

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
19. Per Wikipedia
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 12:57 AM
Aug 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections

the last time we had voter turnout of over 70% was in 1900. It was below 50% back in 1920 and 1924, and was only 51.1% back in 1948, and that's well before the talking box made it into more than a relative few living rooms.

Something else is at work here, I believe.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
4. in the 19th century, before movies and TV and radio etc, political rallies were one of the few....
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:40 PM
Aug 2017

forms of entertainment. A lot of people would show up, if for no other reason than sheer boredom. From what I remember of my American history reading, a lot of those crowds dropped off in the 1900's. I think TV really kicked apathy into high gear. Too easy to work and come home and tune out the world with TV.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
12. it was just the time for new forms, and time for activism....
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:56 PM
Aug 2017

People will still be active politically.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. There is actually way to much politics that is mostly ugly.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:46 PM
Aug 2017

People burnout on the constant strife and BS of politics. Politics in America has become disgusting.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
7. The turning point seemed to be Watergate and Nixon
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:46 PM
Aug 2017

At least that's my experience. People seemed a lot more engaged before that.

I think ignoring politics has been a form of self defense for many.

LakeArenal

(28,845 posts)
10. Some people just like to bitch..
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:49 PM
Aug 2017

My father bitched about politics his whole 93 years.. I found out when he was about 90 he never voted once... Not once...

Loved ya dad, but, really?

no_hypocrisy

(46,182 posts)
13. After 1996 with the Telecommunications Act, allowing corporations
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:57 PM
Aug 2017

to go on a buying spree of radio stations.

In the late Nineties in NYC, there were three AM stations that had liberal talk radio. Even WABC split time between Rush and non-right talk show hosts. One station was clearly progressive, and that station had loads of callers, esp. from senior citizens and younger folks. They knew the issues, whether they were local, regional, state, national, or international. The hosts were engaging and I became sucked into politics through these shows.

2000 it all fell apart. The progressive station was sold to ABC Corporation and became ESPN. WABC fired its liberal and moderate hosts. WOR went conservative. There was no single non-right radio station on the air on 9/11.

leftstreet

(36,112 posts)
16. When politicians stopped responding to citizen movements
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:16 PM
Aug 2017

and by responding I mean gazing at their television sets and seeing thousands and thousands of people in the streets to protest, say a war, and then doing nothing to end that war, or prosecute the people responsible for it

It's always been the 'job' of elected representatives to legislatively protect and defend (which usually means appease) movements of the people.

Now we can see citizen movements for healthcare, for immigration rights, for human rights...and the politicians do shit-all about it.

So like it or not, apathy has become its own citizen movement.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
17. apathy is going to lose us election in 2018 and 2020
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:22 PM
Aug 2017

As of right now, it is abundantly clear to me that reps are en route to expand their majorities in the house and possibly senate. The rep base has never been so energized and involved in politics, trump supercharged them, driven by hate. We are not even close to that level of energy and we have no leadership. All of our messaging has been basically against trump. It would be nice for dems to pretend trump doesn't exist for a few months and focus exclusively on economic issues, instead we keep amplifying him and the media loves it.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
18. Maybe when they kept voting for things
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:38 PM
Aug 2017

and not getting them. And/or they kept being promised things that were never delivered.

LeftInTX

(25,551 posts)
20. I think cable news is a factor
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:06 AM
Aug 2017

Citizens began focusing on national politics instead of local.

The US became fixated on Monica Lewinsky's blue dress instead of real issues.

My psychologist, who is as liberal as anyone said that doesn't subscribe to the local paper. I told him, "You need to subscribe". I explained the situation and he agreed.

When we focus on national politics, especially presidential politics, there is naturally a feeling of "helplessness".

The president is the most far removed person in American politics.

He is not your city councilman, he is not your mayor, he is not your state representation, he is not your congressman.

Kaleva

(36,342 posts)
21. Your very question is a symptom of the problem
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:43 AM
Aug 2017

You are looking for a sound byte kind of answer for a question that would require an answer far more complex then can be given in a internet forum. To find the answer, one would need a very good knowledge of the history of the American political system and that would take years of study.

IMHO, people want quick, snappy answers to questions for which there are none and not getting it, they get bored and move on.

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