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Seriously DUers have you ever seen a storm stall like this (Original Post) malaise Aug 2017 OP
storm drumpf. been swirling for over 200 days! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #1
LOL - and now here come warnings for Louisiana malaise Aug 2017 #4
Our high pressure system is locked in and forcing that storm system to just sit there hlthe2b Aug 2017 #2
Only once. Pope George Ringo II Aug 2017 #3
How long did she stay around? n/t malaise Aug 2017 #6
It seemed like a week Pope George Ringo II Aug 2017 #17
Yes - here's her story malaise Aug 2017 #18
It was awful, just kept raining hard for a long, long time! Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #69
It was crazy, for sure TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #73
Welcome to DU, Pope George Ringo II! calimary Aug 2017 #75
1998 Quebec Ice Storm OneBlueDotBama Aug 2017 #5
Never heard of that one malaise Aug 2017 #8
wiki link... OneBlueDotBama Aug 2017 #16
Thanks malaise Aug 2017 #19
There's a YouTube video of that, also Warpy Aug 2017 #86
I remember that. GoCubsGo Aug 2017 #34
t was a Maine Event too jpak Aug 2017 #56
I think a number of them kinda sit for a while. Stuart G Aug 2017 #7
They say this one will stay around for five days malaise Aug 2017 #9
Katrina Sgent Aug 2017 #91
Yeah jberryhill Aug 2017 #10
This is almost double that so far malaise Aug 2017 #14
Clearly a sign of divine disfavor directed at a GOP state. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #11
Yes, there was one last year that stalled off the Atlantic Coast RhodeIslandOne Aug 2017 #12
yes, its stalled right over my house /w tornado box- Thank God, powers on! here's live radar link Sunlei Aug 2017 #13
Glad you're OK malaise Aug 2017 #15
Thanks, one inch rain in 15 mins is extreme weather! Tornado, wind sheer warning scares me most. Sunlei Aug 2017 #25
You get too much attention around here.. busterbrown Aug 2017 #26
LOL - weather warnings malaise Aug 2017 #35
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #64
"does that sound gay? cwydro Aug 2017 #88
Yeah... JimGinPA Aug 2017 #20
Last time I've seen anything like this was Hurriane Mitch that meandered around catbyte Aug 2017 #21
It was the horrific landslides with Mitch malaise Aug 2017 #31
When Andrew hit mcar Aug 2017 #22
Typhoon Pamela 1976, maybe? n/t snpsmom Aug 2017 #28
Maybe but she never said the name mcar Aug 2017 #50
Never heard of that one malaise Aug 2017 #32
Hurricane Andrew was horrible. It was like a huge lawnmower had run over the houses. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #57
I know nothing about storms, but read somewhere that this one has a good chance of U turning Not Ruth Aug 2017 #23
Thing is Allison never became a hurricane malaise Aug 2017 #33
I know when they're coming malaise Aug 2017 #37
According to my dad yup tymorial Aug 2017 #24
Yes. More than one. GoCubsGo Aug 2017 #27
hurricane cleo Chipper Chat Aug 2017 #29
Don't remember Cleo malaise Aug 2017 #38
The jet streams over Canada have started stalling due to global warming. applegrove Aug 2017 #30
Rising sea levels and warmer waters are making them malaise Aug 2017 #39
you're so right about the warm waters. The gulf water is always hot, even has a huge dead zone. Sunlei Aug 2017 #49
In that area of the Gulf, water has been cooler than average recently. bluepen Aug 2017 #72
The Gulf water pre Harvey was between two and three degrees higher than usual malaise Aug 2017 #94
Interesting. The average is 86-88 degrees bluepen Aug 2017 #97
Right after winter, the gulf waters were on fire bronxiteforever Aug 2017 #102
One stalled over North Carolina for a couple of weeks back in the late 90s/early 2000s bathroommonkey76 Aug 2017 #36
Weeks? malaise Aug 2017 #40
Yes, weeks -- Hurricane Floyd obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #44
Floyd was a hurricane for 12 days. bluepen Aug 2017 #77
It was Floyd -- I posted it, too obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #43
Yep - now I recall that one malaise Aug 2017 #45
It stalled, and then backtracked obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #52
Floyd track. bluepen Aug 2017 #78
(I've always wondered which one was Pink.............. ) lastlib Aug 2017 #106
Dennis was the backtracker... Sunriser13 Aug 2017 #107
Gads, you are right! obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #110
It wasn't weeks. bluepen Aug 2017 #79
Yeah, Floyd -- it drowned Eastern NC obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #41
yay out of the tornado box on radar, outside can hear the toads/frogs singing the happy songs! Sunlei Aug 2017 #42
Glad that passed malaise Aug 2017 #46
no sundown is 8pm-I have decent flashlights & my dog had to go out:P Sunlei Aug 2017 #51
The blizzard of 1978 stalled over southeast Mass. Warpy Aug 2017 #47
I remember that DFW Aug 2017 #85
While it didn't stick around forever, tropical storm Claudette dropped 42 inches of rain in one day mythology Aug 2017 #48
I honestly can't. herding cats Aug 2017 #53
The Big Thompson Flood in 1976 killed 144 people... El Supremo Aug 2017 #54
Not quite like this, and what, 40" of rain or something. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #55
In June 1972 hurricane Agnes a rather minor storm doc03 Aug 2017 #58
Oh yeah. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2017 #92
Agnes, 1972 DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #59
DIdn't know about that one malaise Aug 2017 #61
That one dumped tons of rain at Lake Wallenpaupack in the Poconos BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #80
Agnes soaked the entire east coast DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #95
Well .. ananda Aug 2017 #60
Sign from God rpannier Aug 2017 #62
Didn't Katrina stall? I remember after the initial hit, the wind died down, and there was just rain. pnwmom Aug 2017 #63
Katrina didn't really stall and she wasn't that Blue_Roses Aug 2017 #96
Katrina was category 5 Drahthaardogs Aug 2017 #100
It also saturated the ground underneath the levees Blue_Roses Aug 2017 #108
The levees failed because the storm system stalled and there was too much rain. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #104
More about Katrina Blue_Roses Aug 2017 #109
Living in NorCal in 1982 Ccarmona Aug 2017 #65
They said that once it hit land it could just sit for four or five days. It was encouraging.... George II Aug 2017 #66
Yes. Unnamed storm over Miami maybe 15 yrs back. bullimiami Aug 2017 #67
Someone needs to play this to Harvey until the message gets through. suffragette Aug 2017 #68
haha clever, also good song! nt steve2470 Aug 2017 #70
Hurricane Flora, 1963 Glorfindel Aug 2017 #71
Yes. Not uncommon, especially when there are no bluepen Aug 2017 #74
I remember Wilma stalling MerryBlooms Aug 2017 #76
That sounds like a scene from a Carl Hiassen novel! CottonBear Aug 2017 #103
Malaise, your computer is giving mine the cooties! jmbar2 Aug 2017 #81
While it wasn't a hurricane Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #82
Yes.Hurricanes' momentum--rotary and linear--is stalled by land; it doesn't have the 'give' of water ancianita Aug 2017 #83
In 1985 Hurricane Elena hung out in the Gulf for several days csziggy Aug 2017 #84
Tropical Storm Claudette steve2470 Aug 2017 #87
43 inches in 24 hours malaise Aug 2017 #93
nor'easters tend to do that eShirl Aug 2017 #89
It rains on the just and unjust alike. NNadir Aug 2017 #90
Yep - this on the weather underground comments page malaise Aug 2017 #98
A week? Try 20 years, everybody knew what was coming Not Ruth Aug 2017 #99
True malaise Aug 2017 #101
Allison did it for three days but this is far worse Gothmog Aug 2017 #105
I've seen lots of comparisons with Alison but remember malaise Aug 2017 #111

malaise

(269,282 posts)
4. LOL - and now here come warnings for Louisiana
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:55 PM
Aug 2017

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
743 PM CDT SAT AUG 26 2017

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE CHARLES HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHWESTERN CAMERON PARISH IN SOUTHWESTERN LOUISIANA..

hlthe2b

(102,519 posts)
2. Our high pressure system is locked in and forcing that storm system to just sit there
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:52 PM
Aug 2017

It is pretty amazing in a very negative kind of way...

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
17. It seemed like a week
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:06 PM
Aug 2017

Turns out it made landfall in Texas on June 5, stalled in Lufkin on the 7th, and went back into the Gulf overnight on the 9th/10th. Then it hit Louisiana on the 11th and finally broke up around Newfoundland on the 18th. Those four days around Houston were something else. I understand it was the first storm to be retired without hitting hurricane strength just because of the way it stalled and dumped water for days.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,251 posts)
73. It was crazy, for sure
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:22 PM
Aug 2017

It just rained and rained, and it came down so fast! Houston is flat a pancake. The water had nowhere to go.

calimary

(81,594 posts)
75. Welcome to DU, Pope George Ringo II!
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:26 PM
Aug 2017

I'm just amazed by the current storm. I saw two side-by-side shots on one of the channels - a photo from space of Katrina next to a similar shot of Harvey. They looked identical. Scary!

I was living in New York City during the summer when Hurricane David roared up the East Coast. VERY scary to be about 20 floors up and looking down at these wide "sheets" of wind and rain sweeping through the canyon-like deserted streets of midtown Manhattan. It was a humbling experience. You definitely got the sense of something WAY more powerful than you are.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,386 posts)
5. 1998 Quebec Ice Storm
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:57 PM
Aug 2017

High pressure to the north and a Bermuda high to the east and south east... system stalled and dumped freezing rain for days and days. Some folks had no power for a month and when the system finally moved east, the temps dropped hard, not a good thing to have everything covered in ice and no power in freezing termps.

Warpy

(111,440 posts)
86. There's a YouTube video of that, also
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:59 AM
Aug 2017

Montreal is prone to heavy ice storms, but this one broke all records because it sat there and wouldn't budge. The ice ended up four inches thick, collapsed roofs and whole buildings and brought the city to a complete standstill. Lots of people in the province froze to death and hospitals were full of people who had fallen when they'd run out of food and had to go out.

I barely heard about it here in NM.

GoCubsGo

(32,102 posts)
34. I remember that.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:49 PM
Aug 2017

The images I most remember were those of the big, metal towers that support high tension electrical lines. One right after another were collapsed as if they were made of drinking straws. One of the cable channels (either The Weather Channel or Discovery) ran a documentary about the storm a few years later. The damage was just shocking.

Stuart G

(38,458 posts)
7. I think a number of them kinda sit for a while.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:00 PM
Aug 2017

Didn't Katrina sit for a day or so over New Orleans?...

malaise

(269,282 posts)
14. This is almost double that so far
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:04 PM
Aug 2017

We still marvel that Ivan missed us - it was supposed to go right through Jamaica but just brushed our south east and south coasts. We lost power for two days so we only heard about poor Cayman via radio.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Clearly a sign of divine disfavor directed at a GOP state.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:03 PM
Aug 2017

This closely follows the solar eclipse. If Trump has any sense he will resign immediately.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
12. Yes, there was one last year that stalled off the Atlantic Coast
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:04 PM
Aug 2017

It was either around the July 4th or Labor day holiday. It was right off Long Island for almost a week.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
25. Thanks, one inch rain in 15 mins is extreme weather! Tornado, wind sheer warning scares me most.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:25 PM
Aug 2017

feel worse for people who live near the bayous/drainage ditches around Houston. Some of those homes have flooded out twice in last 2 years.

With global warming, the USA will have many more of these extreme weather events.

Response to malaise (Reply #35)

JimGinPA

(14,811 posts)
20. Yeah...
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:15 PM
Aug 2017

I lived on Clearwater Beach in the 80's there was a hurricane that came up the west coast of Florida and stalled 20 miles offshore & dumped rain & sustained winds for 3 days. It was unusual in that most storms in the Gulf hit Louisiana/Texas, which it finally did on the 4th day.

catbyte

(34,536 posts)
21. Last time I've seen anything like this was Hurriane Mitch that meandered around
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:15 PM
Aug 2017

the Gulf of Mexico in 1998, devastating Central America & Roatan Island. It was also The Hurricane that Wouldn't Leave. I remember it did some bizarre loop-de-loops then stalled then meandered around some some. Absolutely devastating to the mountainous areas of Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua with mudslides & flash floods. It dropped as much as 75" of rain in the 6 days it stalled near Honduras & was the 2nd deadliest Atlantic hurricane on record, killing 11,000 & leaving 11,000 more missing. Needless to say, I hope Harvey isn't anywhere near as bad.

mcar

(42,467 posts)
22. When Andrew hit
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:16 PM
Aug 2017

Friends of ours in Miami told of a hurricane that hit Guam some years before. My friend's brother was stationed there. His family was with him.

The hurricane lingered over Guam for weeks. She said people literally went insane from the wind.

malaise

(269,282 posts)
32. Never heard of that one
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:48 PM
Aug 2017

I worry about the Atlantic, Caribbean and GOM storms and where they're heading.
Harvey is moving slightly at 2mph now

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
23. I know nothing about storms, but read somewhere that this one has a good chance of U turning
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:17 PM
Aug 2017

Out and back for seconds, maybe not as a hurricane though.

GoCubsGo

(32,102 posts)
27. Yes. More than one.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:29 PM
Aug 2017

Agnes (1972), Claudette (1979), Alberto (1994), Georges (1998), Allison (2001), Irene (2011), and to some extent, Sandy in 2012. There are probably a few others that I'm missing. Allison behaved somewhat similarly to what Harvey is doing, only it occurred up the coast at Galveston/Houston.

applegrove

(118,900 posts)
30. The jet streams over Canada have started stalling due to global warming.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:41 PM
Aug 2017

It makes all rain events much worse. Maybe the hurricane has run into a stalled jet stream.

malaise

(269,282 posts)
39. Rising sea levels and warmer waters are making them
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:56 PM
Aug 2017

more dangerous 0 this one moved from TS to Cat four in 72 hours.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
49. you're so right about the warm waters. The gulf water is always hot, even has a huge dead zone.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:11 PM
Aug 2017

actually probably good for the gulf water that it gets sucked up and dumped on the coastal lands as extreme rain. flushes the land and the fishings always great after these extreme rains.

Flush that Gulf toilet

bluepen

(620 posts)
72. In that area of the Gulf, water has been cooler than average recently.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:16 PM
Aug 2017

By as much as 7-9 degrees, which is a lot.

https://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/wgof_tmap.html

https://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/egof.html

And I'm guessing you meant rising sea level is worse for storm surge. It wouldn't affect storm strength (pressure).

malaise

(269,282 posts)
94. The Gulf water pre Harvey was between two and three degrees higher than usual
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 06:13 AM
Aug 2017

and yes sea level is worse for storm surge

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
102. Right after winter, the gulf waters were on fire
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 10:01 AM
Aug 2017

This was a historically warm winter in the Gulf. I wonder what that does to the water column over time? But hey, we are in a giant Petri dish and we will find out whether we want to or not.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
36. One stalled over North Carolina for a couple of weeks back in the late 90s/early 2000s
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:53 PM
Aug 2017

I can't remember the date, but it was devastating for eastern NC.

bluepen

(620 posts)
77. Floyd was a hurricane for 12 days.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:29 PM
Aug 2017

It ran parallel to the coast. Didn't really stall.

And the real problem for eastern NC was that the ground was already saturated from Hurricane Dennis.

obamanut2012

(26,181 posts)
43. It was Floyd -- I posted it, too
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:58 PM
Aug 2017

It didn't get as much press since so much of Eastern NC is rural, poor, and black.

obamanut2012

(26,181 posts)
52. It stalled, and then backtracked
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:18 PM
Aug 2017

About two and a half weeks all together. A friend of mine lost their house. It was under feet and feet of water, and this was inland.

lastlib

(23,374 posts)
106. (I've always wondered which one was Pink.............. )
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:02 PM
Aug 2017




(sorry, I shouldn't make light of these things, but I couldn't resist.......I should be a better resistor--like my sig-line says.)

Sunriser13

(612 posts)
107. Dennis was the backtracker...
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:44 PM
Aug 2017

...and along with Floyd simply devastated much of Eastern NC - Princeville comes to mind right off the bat, the oldest incorporated black town in the US. Wiped the town right off the map. The poor (majority black) side on lower ground has never fully recovered.

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/1999/Hurricane-Dennis

Dennis lasted from 8/24-9/8, and dumped a tremendous amount of rain. Floyd came in around the 15th or 16th and finished the job for many. Then Irene followed up in mid-October while some of the larger rivers were still above flood stage. There's a good timeline here: https://www.ecu.edu/renci/StormsToLife/Floyd/

1999 was rough for ENC in particular.

bluepen

(620 posts)
79. It wasn't weeks.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:36 PM
Aug 2017

Landfall was Cape Fear, NC, on September 16 and the storm was all the way up to Long Island on September 17.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
42. yay out of the tornado box on radar, outside can hear the toads/frogs singing the happy songs!
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:57 PM
Aug 2017

Those frogs and toads love rain puddles a reported small tornado sighting about half mile from my house, all I see 'down' around here are many small twigs from several trees- but my trees always shed a few twigs when there is a bit of wind/rain.

NOAA weather radar I use.

https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=HGX&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
51. no sundown is 8pm-I have decent flashlights & my dog had to go out:P
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:17 PM
Aug 2017

plus I like to hear the frogs & toads sing, they're an important part of my lands general health.

Warpy

(111,440 posts)
47. The blizzard of 1978 stalled over southeast Mass.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:01 PM
Aug 2017

It's why the snow totals were so high in places like Boston and northern RI. On the upper Cape, we were in bright sunshine surrounded by a wall of black clouds. I'd dug out and gotten to work before I knew there was a total travel ban.

DFW

(54,505 posts)
85. I remember that
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:26 AM
Aug 2017

My wife (then girlfriend) was visiting me near Boston (I lived there from 1975-1979), and I got suddenly called to Switzerland for a week. When I got back, the snow was so high, we couldn't get out of the front door of the house for over three weeks. For the first few days, she told me the only way to get down the Mass. Pike to the City was on skis. A guy I knew in Revere had just come into some money and had bought a new car. It filled with water and then froze.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
48. While it didn't stick around forever, tropical storm Claudette dropped 42 inches of rain in one day
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:08 PM
Aug 2017

That was before I was born, but my parents lived in the worst hit area (the 42 inches of rain in one day is still a record in the U.S.) and during the storm realized they couldn't hold out at home but it was too late for them to drive out. So they took horses to my grandparents house. My mom has told me about people laughing at them only to be asking for rides once the cars stalled out.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
53. I honestly can't.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:21 PM
Aug 2017

I'm weather geek, and I've searched back to the early 1900's and have seen nothing like this one.

This is one for the record books.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
54. The Big Thompson Flood in 1976 killed 144 people...
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:26 PM
Aug 2017

they think.

The storm stayed in the same place for four hours and dumped 12 to 14 inches of rain.

doc03

(35,443 posts)
58. In June 1972 hurricane Agnes a rather minor storm
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:32 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:04 PM - Edit history (1)

moved up the eastern coastal states and stalled over Western Pennsylvania dumping as much as 19 inches of rain. It caused
major flooding on the Ohio and it's tributaries. At the time it was the most costly hurricane in history causing $2.1 billion in damages and claimed 128 lives. I remember I lost several days work because of flooding on the Ohio. That was the second worst flood on the upper Ohio
in my lifetime, the worst one was in 1964 with a crest of 49.7 in Wheeling WV, the Agnes flood was 49.5 in Wheeling WV.

DeminPennswoods

(15,295 posts)
59. Agnes, 1972
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:33 PM
Aug 2017

It meandered around becoming a hurricane at least twice in its duration. It produced record flooding in Pennsylvania, especially along the Susquehanna River, which is wide, but not all that deep. Rainfall was up to 19"s in some parts of NE Pa.

BigmanPigman

(51,651 posts)
80. That one dumped tons of rain at Lake Wallenpaupack in the Poconos
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:40 PM
Aug 2017

for two weeks and ruined my dad's whole vacation.

ananda

(28,903 posts)
60. Well ..
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:35 PM
Aug 2017

Tropical storm Charlotte was pretty bad in the late
seventies.

But this is even worse than that.

rpannier

(24,350 posts)
62. Sign from God
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:43 PM
Aug 2017

Showing his disfavor toward the Republicans in Texas and DC
They should be chased from the halls of power
Maybe the ancient Chinese were on to something

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
63. Didn't Katrina stall? I remember after the initial hit, the wind died down, and there was just rain.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:44 PM
Aug 2017

And a lot of people were shocked a few days later that the rain -- not the winds -- was the real danger.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
96. Katrina didn't really stall and she wasn't that
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 07:11 AM
Aug 2017

bad initially, until the levees broke. That's when everything went from severe to catastrophic.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
100. Katrina was category 5
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 09:47 AM
Aug 2017

Levee s were only engineered to withstand category 3. Still, they held. The storm surge overtopped them and once the water tops a levee, it will fail due to eddies at the vase

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
65. Living in NorCal in 1982
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:56 PM
Aug 2017

When an El Niño storm parked over Sonoma County and dumped up to 15"
I was working in local radio and had to do 15 straight hours of emergency broadcasting because I was one of only two jocks that lived close enough to the station to walk through the flooding. I did step into a blown out manhole and got soaked to my shoulders.

George II

(67,782 posts)
66. They said that once it hit land it could just sit for four or five days. It was encouraging....
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:59 PM
Aug 2017

...this morning when it went from Cat 4 to Cat 1 quickly and was heading inland to relatively less populated areas, but then it made a right turn and headed straight for Houston.

I don't understand how people could live constantly under the threat of storms like this.

Glorfindel

(9,747 posts)
71. Hurricane Flora, 1963
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:08 PM
Aug 2017

I don't know why I remember that one, since it didn't affect the US, but I do. It was also mentioned in one of the James Bond books.

http://www.hurricanescience.org/history/storms/1960s/flora/

MerryBlooms

(11,776 posts)
76. I remember Wilma stalling
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:29 PM
Aug 2017

I was in the Keys for her. Many had evacuated, but Wilma sat there and people ran out of money and ended up coming back home. The news played it down because of the tourist dollars, but man, there were mountains of belongings along every street. We got storm surge from both sides and we had 4ft of water in our place, which was 4 feet above the canal we were on. Scorpions, snakes, fish, frogs, etc... rushing into our house. I was up on our tallest dresser under our attic door. We filled our coolers with food, water, med supplies and tied them to our ankles so we could pull them up if needed. There I sat in shorts and cowboy boots with a bottle of vodka and my smokes... I cried tears of joy when the water line finally started dropping. It was hellish.

jmbar2

(4,920 posts)
81. Malaise, your computer is giving mine the cooties!
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:45 PM
Aug 2017

Keep trying to swat them away and then they come back!

Docreed2003

(16,900 posts)
82. While it wasn't a hurricane
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:52 PM
Aug 2017

A massive storm stalled over Louisiana in August of last year dumping massive amounts of rain and resulting in devastating flooding around Baton Rouge. This one is dropping abou a foot more of rain!

ancianita

(36,221 posts)
83. Yes.Hurricanes' momentum--rotary and linear--is stalled by land; it doesn't have the 'give' of water
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:53 PM
Aug 2017

When stalled over land, hurricanes turn into storms and then dissipate.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
84. In 1985 Hurricane Elena hung out in the Gulf for several days
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:11 AM
Aug 2017

Dropped over 15 inches of rain in Cross City, Florida, strengthened to Cat 3 before hitting Biloxi. Two weeks earlier Hurricane Danny hit Louisiana as a Cat 1, so much of the Gulf coast was already saturated. The previous month Tropical Storm Bob hit Fort Meyers, Florida, then moved out into the Atlantic, developed into a Cat 1 hurricane and hit South and North Carolina.



Hurricane Elena was an unpredictable and damaging tropical cyclone that affected eastern and central portions of the United States Gulf Coast in late August and early September 1985. Threatening popular tourist destinations during Labor Day weekend, Elena repeatedly deviated from its forecast path, triggering evacuations of unprecedented extent. The hurricane wrought havoc to property and the environment between southwestern Florida and eastern Louisiana, though lesser effects were felt well beyond those areas. Elena developed on August 28 near Cuba, and after traveling lengthwise across the island with little impact, it entered the Gulf of Mexico and continued to strengthen. Initially projected to strike the central Gulf Coast, the hurricane unexpectedly veered toward the east on August 30, then stalled just 50 mi (80 km) west of Cedar Key, Florida. Despite predictions that Elena would continue eastward across Florida, the cyclone remained nearly stationary for about 48 hours, causing damage all along the eastern gulf with high winds and waves, before slowly moving northwest and ultimately making landfall near Biloxi, Mississippi, on September 2 as a Category 3 major hurricane. The storm quickly weakened upon moving ashore and dissipated on September 4.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Elena



October the same year Hurricane Juan acted unlike any storm I have ever seen.



Hurricane Juan was a large and erratic tropical cyclone that looped twice near the Louisiana coast, causing widespread flooding. It was the tenth named storm of the 1985 Atlantic hurricane season, forming in the central Gulf of Mexico in late October. Juan moved northward after its formation, and was subtropical in nature with its large size. On October 27, the storm became a hurricane, reaching maximum sustained winds of 85 mph (140 km/h). Due to the influence of an upper-level low, Juan looped just off southern Louisiana before making landfall near Morgan City on October 29. Weakening to tropical storm status over land, Juan turned back to the southeast over open waters, crossing the Mississippi River Delta. After turning to the northeast, the storm made its final landfall just west of Pensacola, Florida, late on October 31. Juan continued quickly to the north and was absorbed by an approaching cold front, although its moisture contributed to a deadly flood event in the Mid-Atlantic states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Juan_(1985)


The 1985 season stuck with me since we were in the middle of building a barn which the wet weather slowed down construction. Plus we were then hit directly by Hurricane Kate which had already hit Jamaica:



Kate made its first landfall on the northern coast of Cuba at this intensity prior to emerging as a slightly weaker storm during the evening hours of November 19. Once clear of land, it began to strengthen quickly, becoming a Category 3 and reaching its peak intensity of 120 mph (195 km/h) the following day.[2] On November 21, a cold front moving across the Mississippi Valley resulted in a north and eventual northeast turn of the cyclone, and Kate came ashore near Mexico Beach, Florida, as a minimal Category 2 hurricane with winds of 100 mph (160 km/h). Gradual weakening ensued as the cyclone moved along the Southeast United States coastline, and Kate transitioned to an extratropical cyclone on November 23, a day after exiting the coastline of North Carolina.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Kate_(1985)


steve2470

(37,457 posts)
87. Tropical Storm Claudette
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:30 AM
Aug 2017
The city of Alvin, which is southeast of Houston, holds the record for the greatest one-day rainfall in the United States. In 1979, Tropical Storm Claudette dropped 43 inches of rain there in 24 hours.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-na-hurricane-harvey-rain-20170826-story.html

eShirl

(18,509 posts)
89. nor'easters tend to do that
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:22 AM
Aug 2017

these big snowstorms, they come up the coast and sometimes when they get to the Gulf of Maine, they can sit and spin for a few days.

malaise

(269,282 posts)
98. Yep - this on the weather underground comments page
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 09:27 AM
Aug 2017

Just saw an obviously overwhelmed governor of Texas on ABC say there's no way of predicting what Havery will do in the coming days. Just what you'd expect from an oil-soaked, climate-change-denying Republican politician to say after scientists have been warning him for a week of what will happen.

malaise

(269,282 posts)
111. I've seen lots of comparisons with Alison but remember
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:35 AM
Aug 2017

this one came in and destroyed Rockfort as a Cat4 before stalling and Allison never became a hurricane. Both are big time 'stallers'.

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