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NRaleighLiberal

(60,034 posts)
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:38 PM Aug 2017

slate "The Arpaio Pardon Is a Bad Sign for the Mueller Investigation"

Trump has always wanted to stifle judicial oversight. Now he’s shown he will.

By Mark Joseph Stern


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/08/trump_s_arpaio_pardon_is_a_bad_sign_for_mueller_s_investigation.html

When President Donald Trump pardoned Sheriff Joe Arpaio on Friday, he tweeted that the sheriff was an “American patriot” who “kept Arizona safe!” His pardon was, in one sense, narrow: Arpaio was not convicted for his relentless and well-documented brutality, but for criminal contempt after he violated a court order demanding that he stop illegally detaining Latinos. In another sense, however, Trump’s pardon—which was accompanied by a White House statement praising Arpaio and eliding his misdeeds—broadly condones the sheriff’s relentless criminality. It sends a message to Latinos that they do not deserve equal rights, and affirms to the judiciary that Trump has no respect for the rule of law.


But Trump’s pardon of the sheriff is also troubling for its timing. The political nature of the pardon is obvious—it vividly demonstrates Trump’s willingness to abuse his presidential powers in order to let his friends and supporters off the hook. But just as notable is that it came right on the heels of the president’s Phoenix rally, as the president is being pressured to disavow the most racist elements of his base. What’s even worse is the fact that the pardon arrived without review, and before Arpaio was even sentenced for defying the courts. As my colleague Dahlia Lithwick has written, Arpaio’s conviction was a test for how long and how willing Trump will be to abide judicial oversight. He flunked it. It now seems clear that many future beneficiaries of the president’s clemency will be his political allies—and that he might not wait to for them to be convicted or sentenced before issuing a pardon. Trump, in other words, may use his pardon power to stymie Robert Mueller’s investigation, as well as other inquiries into the past misdeeds of his associates.

The commonalities between Arpaio and Trump are striking. Both men disdain the rule of law, and Arpaio’s unrestrained racial profiling and harassment of perceived enemies—he arrested journalists who wrote about him critically—all sound like true expressions of Trump’s own deep desires. Trump and Arpaio were first drawn to each other over their belief that President Barack Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate was forged. (Somehow, Arpaio found the money to send an investigator to Hawaii, who concluded, falsely, that the certificate was fraudulent.) Their bond deepened during the campaign: Arpaio endorsed Trump early, then stumped for him and appeared at campaign events where the two men lauded each other for their hatred of undocumented immigrants. In 2016, Glenn Thrush called Arpaio “Trump’s political godfather” and described the sheriff’s profound affection for Trump. The two shared startlingly similar bigotries, biases, and strongman instincts.

It’s no surprise, then, that Trump wished to pardon Arpaio. But it is genuinely shocking that the president followed through, and did so in this manner. There has long been a careful procedure in place for the pardon process: Individuals submit a request for clemency, and the Justice Department recommends good candidates based on pre-approved guidelines. Trump didn’t bother even to pretend to use this system to pardon Arpaio. The sheriff hadn’t formally requested one, the usual first step in the process. And he hadn’t yet been sentenced. Typically, an individual’s sentence plays a key role in the president’s clemency decision; President Barack Obama, for example, commuted the sentences of many prisoners who, he felt, had served enough time. Trump didn’t need to wait for a sentence.


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slate "The Arpaio Pardon Is a Bad Sign for the Mueller Investigation" (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 OP
I disagree malaise Aug 2017 #1
+1000. Absolutely agree. dchill Aug 2017 #8
Well greeny2323 Aug 2017 #2
Public reaction WOULD be fierce;the Fuhrer-in-Chief's Rethug allies wouldnt even put up w/ that shit InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #3
I agree... Zoonart Aug 2017 #4
If Trump pardons people in Russiagate and himself Chasstev365 Aug 2017 #5
Is it true? dottie66 Aug 2017 #6
This might help answer most of your questions... WePurrsevere Aug 2017 #7
thanks! dottie66 Aug 2017 #9
NY AG Schneiderman is investigating sweetroxie Aug 2017 #10
welcome to DU gopiscrap Aug 2017 #11

malaise

(269,272 posts)
1. I disagree
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:45 PM
Aug 2017

The WP piece tonight where the Con tried to get Sessions to drop the case is a classic attempt at obstruction of justice. It provides an even stronger pattern of intent to obstruct for Mueller.

 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
2. Well
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:46 PM
Aug 2017

To be honest I think this is a bit of an overreaction. The Arpaio pardon is disgusting, but it doesn't involve Trump like the Russia investigation does. We can only hope the public reaction against Russia-related pardons would be fierce.

Zoonart

(11,897 posts)
4. I agree...
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:59 PM
Aug 2017

FROM what I've been reading since Last December...I have to think that theye is no way short of martial law and suspension if the Constitution that can stop the total destruction of the Trump criminal enterprise.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
5. If Trump pardons people in Russiagate and himself
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:00 PM
Aug 2017

The GOP will be badly on the spot. If they refuse to impeach Trump at that point, they will nakedly be exposed for who they really are and it would resonate with a majority of the public.

dottie66

(59 posts)
6. Is it true?
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:09 PM
Aug 2017

Isn't is correct that Trump can only pardon those with federal charges or investigations?

So my question is can say the State of New York come up with charges for Trump and his associates?

Can New York set up criminal charges on the state level so presidential pardons cannot apply?

I imagine the state charges would have to be different, maybe involving financial fraud?

If Trump and associates cannot be pardoned for state charges this would keep the pressure on them.

sweetroxie

(776 posts)
10. NY AG Schneiderman is investigating
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:00 PM
Aug 2017

as we speak. Lots of "good" money laundering cases took place in NY.

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