BREAKING: Shaun King: Police have finally arrested Dan Borden, the white supremacist ...

[Donkees]

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BREAKING: Police have finally arrested Dan Borden, the white supremacist we identified as assaulting Deandre Harris. He was in Ohio.

[Solly Mack]

1. Finally.

Good.

[L. Coyote]

62. Warrant issued for other assailant. Police still seeking help to ID others. Reward $30,000

ALL HANDS --- We need to identify this man TODAY.

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[orangecrush]

2. GOOD!

Fucking cowards!

[uppityperson]

3. here's an article. Good.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/pd-former-mason-high-school-student-charged-in-charlottesville-attack

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. -- Police charged a former Mason High School student accused in the beating of a black man at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, according to the Charlottesville Police Department.

Police charged Daniel Borden, 18, Thursday with malicious wounding weeks after after video and photos surfaced online showing several white men attacking 20-year-old Deandre Harris on Aug. 12 in a parking garage.

Sgt. J. Via, with the Charlottesville Police Department, said on Aug. 15 police considered Borden a person of interest....(more)

[trof]

12. "malicious wounding"? Whatever happened to agravated assault?

WTF is 'malicious wounding"?
A misdemeanor?

[MagickMuffin]

19. Malicious Wounding

A. If any person maliciously shoots, stabs, cuts or wounds any other person, or by any means causes bodily injury, with the intent to maim, disfigure, disable or kill, he shall be guilty of a Class 2 felony if the victim is thereby severely injured and is caused to suffer permanent and significant physical impairment.

[jberryhill]

27. Have you actually ever read a state criminal code?

Do you know there is no crime called "rape" in a lot of states?

What a state calls it when "someone does x and y with the intent to do z" is entirely a matter of nomenclature.

This is a felony charge.

[trof]

77. Wow. Did somebody rattle your cage?

What brought THAT on?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

45. Different states use different nomenclature for statutory crimes.

The definition of malicious wounding is basically the same what my state calls assault in the first degree. There is no crime of rape in my state, but there is a felony called criminal sexual conduct in the first degree whose definition is what would colloquially be called rape. There's no kidnapping, but there is a crime called abduction. It all depends on what the legislature wants to call it.

[Bladewire]

47. Why no hate crime charged? Racists were beating a man because he's black!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

49. They still can. Depends on what evidence is developed.

[Bladewire]

50. Could you Imagine Jeff sessions doesn't charge him with a hate crime

Nazis beating blacks at a white supremacist rally is the epitome of a hate crime.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

55. Jeff Sessions has nothing to do wth this. He's the United States Attorney General

- in charge of a federal agency that prosecutes federal crimes - but these guys will be charged with state crimes according to the laws of the state of Virginia. They will be prosecuted by a district attorney with jurisdiction over the city of Charlottesville.

[jmowreader]

57. If what he did falls into the federal definition of a hate crime, the feds can go after him too

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/D/DualSovereigntyDoctrine.aspx

Dual sovereignty means if you commit an offense that's illegal under both federal and state law, both jurisdictions can try you without invoking double jeopardy.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

61. The catch is that the federal hate crimes statute requires some aspect

of interstate involvement - that is, that the conduct constituting the crime occurred during the course of, or as the result of, interstate travel by the defendant or the victim, or a firearm or other weapon that was used traveled in interstate commerce. I can't tell from the article whether Borden, originally a local, came from out of state for the Nazi rally, or where Harris was from. In any event, there had to have been some sort of interstate involvement for the feds to have jurisdiction. If there wasn't any, it will be prosecuted by the state alone.

[jmowreader]

65. There is an interstate component to it

According to https://www.theroot.com/white-supremacist-daniel-borden-charged-in-charlottesvi-1798467504, Borden is from Mason, Ohio. He traveled from there to Virginia, committed his special crime in Virginia, returned to Ohio, was arrested by the Ohio police and is currently in an Ohio jail.

It don't get no better than this.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

66. That might do it.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

71. Wow. That gives me some hope justice may be served.

[BigmanPigman]

4. What took so long? The police reaction during and after

Charlottesville sucks but I am not surprised a bit. Many cops allow this to happen. I saw it first hand at a protest and rally to Impeach Trump in July when the Proud Boys made a special long distance trip to incite violence in blue San Diego, CA. The cops stood there and watched smiling until the assembly person who was a guest speaker (they disrupted her entire speech) called the chief of police.

[politicat]

29. Identification and verification.

I'm not going to entirely fault C'ville PD and their DA for making sure they got solid identifications.

The cops failing to stop it... on that, they get a LOT of blame and no leeway.

[greyl]

67. Patience is one thing many cops need more of.

It does seem like this arrest took a while, but maybe it because they were gathering intelligence and preparing prosecution. Maybe that's too optimistic.

[SMC22307]

5. Finally!

And the other white supremacist man-boys in on the attack?

[Donkees]

22. An arrest warrant issued for Michael Ramos ...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029519124

[SMC22307]

24. Excellent. So that makes two, right?

Heard anything about that red-bearded man-boy assaulting Deandre? He shouldn't be that hard to identify.

[Donkees]

26. They haven't yet arrested this one. Don't think the others are arrested yet either.

[riversedge]

6. He seems so young. I always wonder What went wrong--when these so very young

folks get into horrible trouble.

[oberliner]

8. High school student

Perhaps there is time.

[CanonRay]

52. No, this kid is gone

and he won't get any better in jail. Just hope he's in so long he doesn't reproduce

[politicat]

33. Misogyny and Men's Rights and Incel are the training ground for white supremacy.

It's not hyperbole to say that G-mr-g8 and the nastier corners of reddit are catching these jackwagons at an early age. They get resentful that they can't get dates (nevermind that they don't put any effort into it, don't even try) and think they're entitled to a relationship where they never have to do any work and can do whatever they want to someone who has no rights or ability to refuse. Once the MRAs have them, they add in racism and other forms of hate.

It's our version of radicalization. It plays on cultural tropes we have, as does all radicalization, but it often boils down to snowflake babies who are convinced their entitled to having their boners serviced and bawling because the world just isn't FAIR to their specific set of impulses.

[liquid diamond]

48. So because they

can't get a date, they hate POC? Da fuck? Those sound like two different issues.

[politicat]

75. It starts out with resenting women who won't date them, then evolves to

Resenting women who date outside their race (because if those white girls would just be assigned to the worthy white Incel, all would be fine) to resenting all people who aren't them. They are completely related, and there is significant radicalization manipulation ongoing. I'm oversimplifying a little, but not much. It's fairly linear.

Keep an eye on wehuntedthemammoth.com; Dave tracks this progression.

[catrose]

7. That's one

[dalton99a]

9. "Another student said Borden said he was going to kill him because he wouldn't buy Borden a cookie"

Have fun in jail, stupid Nazi

[smirkymonkey]

10. Good! I hope they lock the little punk up for a long time.

And I hope his prison experience scares some sense into him.

[blogslut]

11. Here's more

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/pd-former-mason-high-school-student-charged-in-charlottesville-attack

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. -- Police charged a former Mason High School student accused in the beating of a black man at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, according to the Charlottesville Police Department.

Police charged Daniel Borden, 18, Thursday with malicious wounding weeks after after video and photos surfaced online showing several white men attacking 20-year-old Deandre Harris on Aug. 12 in a parking garage...

<snip>

A classmate at Mason Middle School told police in 2012 that Borden held a knife inches from his face, according to a police report. He also said Borden drew swastikas, called him "Jew Boy" because he had a big nose and claimed he belonged to a gang called Brothers of Confederacy, the report states.

Another student said Borden said he was going to kill him because he wouldn't buy Borden a cookie, according to the report. Borden said he was joking. Mason Police Officer Joshua Wells said police charged Borden with possessing a deadly weapon in a school safety zone and aggravated menacing...

[heaven05]

15. grrrrrrr

mad: : god I hope he gets jail or even prison time....never happen though not with this fresh faced specimen/storm trooper in trump's nazi and klan ameriKKKa.

[czarjak]

64. Can't a good ol' boy just have a little fun?

[JohnnyRingo]

68. Welcome to the big boy world

He's 18 now, and this isn't like getting detention for strong arming a fellow student in the school cafeteria. Unless dad's extremely wealthy...it's goodbye asshole.

the rest of us will be fine without you.

[heaven05]

13. He'll get a slap

on his white privileged and entitled hand, spend a week on probation and be free to join the storm troopers of the hitler clone, trump the orange baboon....to beat and kill as many black people he can, at the numerous rallies and protests upcoming with the 2018 election fast approaching.... again. No doubts in trump's white supremacist paradise called ameriKKKa, the new nazi lover country.

[trof]

14. Malicious Wounding:

Malicious Wounding
There are three elements to the criminal offense of malicious wounding in Virginia.

The government must first prove that the defendant shot, stabbed, cut, wounded, or caused bodily injury to another person. 

Second, it must prove that the defendant intended to maim, disfigure, disable or kill the other person at the time he committed the act. 

Finally, the government must prove that the act was done with malice.  The penalty for malicious wounding is 5 to 20 year imprisonment and/or a fine of up to $100,000.

OK, I'm good with that.

[Stonepounder]

16. Yeah, and Trump will pardon him, because 'he was one of the fine people'. Blech!

[grantcart]

28. Can't pardon state crimes

[uppityperson]

17. Thanks

[sharedvalues]

25. Is that the VA felony assault statute?

[jberryhill]

30. There is no such thing in VA

Here are the titles of crimes in VA. You can click on them for their definitions:

http://law.justia.com/codes/virginia/2006/toc1802000/toc18020000004000000000000.html

There is a misdemeanor called "Assault and battery". This is a much more serious charge than that.

[sharedvalues]

31. It looks like it is the felony assault law

There is no literal "felony assault" crime but it seems that malicious wounding is the felony assault crime in VA in practice.

Someone who committed that same action in PA would be charged under felony aggravated assault.

[jberryhill]

37. Yeah

People get hung up over the titles of these things but the general act of "beating the crap out of someone" is a felony everywhere, regardless of what it's called. There's a predictable DU freak out everytime some pervert somewhere is charged with some grade of "sexual assault" in states that don't have "rape" over "why wasn't he charged with rape?"

[ProudLib72]

38. I just found what he is guilty of

2006 Code of Virginia § 18.2-46.5 - Committing, conspiring and aiding and abetting acts of terrorism prohibited; penalty

18.2-46.5. Committing, conspiring and aiding and abetting acts of terrorismprohibited; penalty.

A. Any person who commits or conspires to commit, or aids and abets thecommission of an act of terrorism, as defined in 18.2-46.4, is guilty of aClass 2 felony if the base offense of such act of terrorism may be punishedby life imprisonment, or a term of imprisonment of not less than twenty years.

B. Any person who commits, conspires to commit, or aids and abets thecommission of an act of terrorism, as defined in 18.2-46.4, is guilty of aClass 3 felony if the maximum penalty for the base offense of such act ofterrorism is a term of imprisonment or incarceration in jail of less than twenty years.

[jberryhill]

40. "an act of terrorism, as defined in 18.2-46.4"

And the definition of that is.... what?

[ProudLib72]

43. Here

As used in this article unless the context requires otherwise or it is otherwise provided:

"Act of terrorism" means an act of violence as defined in clause (i) of subdivision A of 19.2-297.1 committed with the intent to (i) intimidate the civilian population at large; or (ii) influence the conduct or activities of the government of the United States, a state or locality through intimidation.

"Base offense" means an act of violence as defined in clause (i) of subdivision A of 19.2-297.1 committed with the intent required to commit an act of terrorism.

"Weapon of terrorism" means any device or material that is designed,intended or used to cause death, bodily injury or serious bodily harm,through the release, dissemination, or impact of (i) poisonous chemicals (ii) an infectious biological substance; or (iii) release of radiation or radioactivity.

An act of violence with the intent to intimidate the civilian population at large: CHECK
Influence the conduct or activities of the government of the US, a state or locality: CHECK (stop the removal of statues)

[judesedit]

18. Thank you police for protecting the innocent

[Maraya1969]

20. Hopefully he'll name names and they'll all go to jail

[demmiblue]

21. Good (though I am not going to forget that the police allowed this to happen).

Fuckers, all of them.

[msongs]

23. Maybe he has a daughter named Lizzie nt

[HughBeaumont]

32. Great work. That only took, what, 2 1/2 WEEKS?

STOP PROTECTING TERRORISTS AND STOP ARRESTING THE TERRORIZED.

"Why do people not respect police?" "Gee, Mr. Spicoli . . . I don't KNOW."

[yardwork]

44. It takes time to build a case. We want a conviction.

[obamanut2012]

54. He lives in Ohio

[Lee-Lee]

83. Your really upset they did their job in 17 days?

I get that much of society is spoiled and demands instant gratification, but your bashing them for taking 17 days?

Do you have any idea what it takes to make a case?

The video is good. Then you have to positively identity that person. No, a bunch of people on Twitter isn't admissible proof. You can take that as a lead, but you need further proof it's the right guy. past a resemblance. So you get a warrant for their cell phone records and credit card records and see that they show he was in town- that takes time. Then you go over his social media and show he has previously made statements supporting this kind of violence.

This work doesn't happen like it does on TV where some smart but quirky behind the scenes computer genius gets you data instantly. You get a warrant, you send the warrant to the levels department of the big phone company or credit card company, you wait for them to send it to their data people, you wait for their data people to send you results responsive to the warrant. You don't go digging into their systems like on TV. It can take anywhere from 24-96 hours from "Judge we would like a warrant" to getting data. And several hours to prepare the request for the warrant from the judge before that.

So you do all that and build a case. Now you find out he is in another state. So you go back in front of the judge asking for an arrest warant. Takes time to get thatbarrstnwarrant package complete. Then you have to find where he may be in that other stage and coordinate with the local police there to get him.

Oh, and all the while there are probably working a dozen or two dozen more people from this same incident at the same time to get information and possibly warrants on. He wasn't the only one they were after for sure.

And had they messed up one single step on this his defense lawyer will seize on it as an excuse to get him off, so their work must be meticulous in every step and well documented.

And your mad it took them 17 days and think that's a reason to bash them?

[HughBeaumont]

84. NO. I'm upset because these criminals weren't arrested RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

When a felony assault is being committed, YOU ARREST THE FUCKERS COMMITTING IT THEN AND THERE. COME on.

And please spare me the bullshit that "police cannot be everywhere at any given time". What's "being spoiled" about asking police to give the same treatment to people committing actual CRIMES as opposed to people exercising their First Amendment rights? Where were the police at that same rally where one of the Nazis was on video firing a live round at a counter-protestor?

Given your history of cop defense, you're likely going to spew forth a giant essay as to why that cannot POSSIBLY be.

Police give very disparate treatment of white vs black, rich vs poor, Conservative vs Liberal. Video doesn't lie. This should NOT have taken this damned long. These guys were on more than one video.

[Lee-Lee]

85. So you demand teleportation or what?

Yeah, if the cops are not there they are not there.

Do you expect them to have Scotty beam them over right away when it happens as soon as the Enterpises scanners detect an assault? Or what other mystical technology exists in your world where they can instantly be transported to the scene of a crime in progress to effect an instant arrest?

Your right, I will say the cops can't be everywhere at once. You may not be able to comprehend that is reality, but your inability to comprehend it doesn't make it any less a real fact. If they were not there to see it happen they can't make an on the spot arrest.... because they are not there to do it. It's really not that hard to understand.

This irrational and immature demanding of actions that are physically impossible- like police making an arrest when they are not on scene- is nothing but immature demands of instant gratification totally out of touch with reality.

[wryter2000]

34. Yes!

Now get the rest of them

[TexasBushwhacker]

35. Oh yeah. He's the one whose friends gave him up.

The moles on his neck were a strong identifier.

[shanti]

56. When I first saw those moles

I thought they werer blood splatters. Apparently, he was recognized because of them.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

36. Dont ordinarily go in for name-calling but jeez.... that guy really looks like a doofus (nt)

[ProudLib72]

39. Send him to Arpaio

Let the Tent City Murderer have him for twenty years.

[Bladewire]

41. NO HATE CRIME CHARGE??!!

[Lee-Lee]

86. One simple charge makes extradition easier

They have plenty of time to add more charges once he is back in VA.

[NNadir]

42. This ignorant little nazi needs to do time...if the Nazi-in-chief doesn't pardon him. n/t

[rurallib]

46. better news drop than the Arpaio pardon

Although i have hopes that pardon will really boomerang on those assholes.

Hoping for a conviction and a long sentence.
What was that I always used to hear from the law'n'order righties "you do the crime you do the time."

[Initech]

51. Excellent! Lock him up and throw away the key!

[haveahart]

53. They came from far and wide to spew their hate. Remember that...they are your neighbors.

[Turbineguy]

58. It's a really shame

to be so young and so fucked up.

[herding cats]

59. Yes!

He needs to be heals accountable for his actions!

[m-lekktor]

60. Good!nt

[C Moon]

70. :D

[C Moon]

69. "Who's crying now?"

[Donkees]

72. His attorney released the following statement Saturday night:

His attorney released the following statement Saturday night:

Daniel Borden and his family have cooperated fully with the FBI in its investigation of the events in Charlottesville. When Dan was advised yesterday afternoon that a warrant for his arrest had been issued by Virginia authorities, he immediately surrendered himself to the FBI and, later, the Hamilton County Sheriff's Department.

Dan is awaiting extradition to Virginia. He will defend himself against charges filed as a consequence of rioting caused by the City of Charlottesville's decision to allow BLM and Antifah members to attack those protesting the removal of Robert E. Lee's statue from a local park.

As Dan attempted to leave the protest grounds, he was struck in the head and tear gassed multiple times. Dan repeatedly requested protection from Charlottesville Police and was ignored. We believe Dan will be exonerated."

http://www.wlwt.com/article/man-with-local-ties-arrested-in-connection-to-charlottesville-beating/12100986

[SonofDonald]

76. From what I just read here

He traveled interstate to get there, he brought his own club, he brought his own customized hard hat, what did he need that for? he attended the rally?, he is on media beating the victim.

I don't think it matters what he says went on, the evidence shows what his intention and actions were that day.

Game over

[SweetieD]

79. That statement doesn't address this specific incident at all. He can't claim self defense.

[downeastdaniel]

73. Now, slap ole danny boy with all charges that fit, and don't let go.

[workinclasszero]

74. The nazi bastard should be charged with attempted murder

LOCK HIM UP!

[PatrickforO]

78. Good. Fucking asshole.

That was a hate crime if ever there was.

[Donkees]

80. DeAndre Harris Response to Arrest of Borden and Charging of Ramos - Merritt Law Firm

[hexola]

87. Can I suggest making this its own post?

Seems pretty relevant...

[Donkees]

88. Done! :)

[Hortensis]

81. Excellent. A baby-face 18/19-year-old from Ohio, another

whose poor family won't be surprised.

Many media, including Heavy, had held off on naming Borden until he was identified as a person of interest by police because web sleuths have identified the wrong people before in national tragedies. ...

Borden Is From Mason, Ohio & Has a Troubled Past. ... According to WLWT-TV, there were signs of trouble in his past. ... Borden, 18, was previously “accused of pulling a knife on a classmate years ago,” WLWT reported. The mother of that classmate told the television station, “I wasn’t surprised, I was disgusted and just sick about everything I was seeing.” The mother alleged that Borden called her son “Jew Boy” and made fun of the size of his nose, according to WLWT.

Borden attended Mason High School in Mason, Ohio, but he didn’t graduate, according to Cincinnati.com. ... There were earlier signs that Borden aligned with white supremacist ideology, WLWT reported. “According to a report from 2012, Borden brought a knife to school, took it out and put it 5 inches from” another boy’s face, That boy also told police that Borden allegedly “drew swastikas on paperwork,” according to WLWT.

According to Cincinnati.com, Borden allegedly “belonged to a gang called the Brothers of Confederacy, drew swastikas on his school papers and performed Nazi salutes.”

His deleted Facebook name used the middle name “Boc,” according to reports.

This is one of 3 or 4 arrests, and there'll be still more.

[Lee-Lee]

82. Are all the people accusing the police of not doing anything or not caring

Going to admit they were wrong and maybe apologize to the officers and departments they bashed?

I bet not. I went back to a post just last week where the original poster was bashing the cops for not acting yet and then attacked me for simply saying that they don't have any idea what's going on behind the scenes and its irresponsible to bash them and make accusations they are intentionally not doing anything. Seems the response was to do the cowardly thing and self delete the original post instead of admitting they were wrong.