I really disagree with Skinner's statement about who is welcome on DU

[obamanut2012]

Last edited Thu Aug 24, 2017, 06:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Because he spelled morans wrong!

"This site only welcomes people who voted for HRC in the GE.
Trump-enabling morons can find some other website."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/125912898#post1

[RockaFowler]

1. Ha!

[obamanut2012]

2. .....

[onit2day]

86. We shouldalso welcome those who did not voye

for either candidate and have lost their enthusiasm for elections or any of the candidates. We have a "better deal" this time around so look at our platform and get behind real Americans

[Hekate]

89. Try reading the TOS. Otherwise we'll be sprinkling a little Troll-B-Gone around, onit2day.

Sorry, jury. That one seems particularly obtuse.

[onit2day]

114. Why would you make such an unjustified comment

I was referring to all those people who did not vote and just didn't care to due to lack of enthusiasm to now get involved with the democratic party's "Better Deal" because there is so much to be enthused about and you infer I'm a troll. Something must be wrong with your understanding.

[Hekate]

116. Nothing at all wrong with my understanding

[tymorial]

21. Sigh. Those poor kids.

[RKP5637]

28. They have no escape! So tragic! n/t

[tymorial]

34. You don't chose your family.

Hopefully the grow up and out of it like I did

[RKP5637]

36. So glad you did! It must be difficult! n/t

[Control-Z]

58. I did it too.

My father was a card carrying Bircher (The John Birch Society.)

[raven mad]

82. I still have this saved, too!

I have a sinking feeling that we'll be using this a lot until the sTrumpet is perp-walked out of the Oval Office.

[IronLionZion]

84. The poor guy was talking about one specific family

who were trying to decide on what food to order at a restaurant specializing in using all of the animal so the joke's on us

[canetoad]

3. K&R for clickbait

[obamanut2012]

4. hahaha

[katmondoo]

5. I voted and supported her throughout the campaign

Cried when she lost. I still believe it was a coup.

[obamanut2012]

7. me too

[Freddie]

10. Yup

Cried most of the next day. Fascinating how he got *just enough* votes in the *right* states to take advantage of the national gerrymandering that is the EC.

[brush]

57. Yes. Just enough votes in just enough states. You just know that was calculated.

The election was stolen.

[2naSalit]

23. +1

[RKP5637]

33. The next war. That, seems to be this countries main initiative anymore. Great for business,

the MIC. So damn pathetic.

[2naSalit]

38. Personally...

I think the gig is up and we are doomed regardless of whatever we might accomplish from this point onward. The election was illegally manipulated and those who have the power to make the changes we should be engaging don't have the guts to do it.. probably because they have a red spot on their temples and those of their family members. It's a nasty game, political power, and it will be the end of us all in the not so distant future.

For some reason I was born into this time, I don't want to see what's coming but I get the feeling I'll be around to be part of the cleanup crew. Not looking forward to it except for the desire to get it over with so that whomever is left can go forward.

[RKP5637]

40. Darn, I can't think of the right word now ... I agree. There is a major climax brewing. We have a

system that works, the problem is many of the players should not be in the system. And we have a complete oaf at the top. Just watching him try to run this country, it's easy to see why many of his businesses failed and surely why he keeps his tax returns hidden. And, he has a lot of supporters that really are deplorable. We're on the edge.

[RKP5637]

30. Yes, she should have won. I think it was some kind of coup too! n/t

[lunamagica]

6. K&R.

[Maven]

8. HA!

[Mike Nelson]

9. Ha!

... I did not vote for Mitt Romney - but it had nothing to do with him being a Moran.

[obamanut2012]

15. .............

[BlueMTexpat]

11. Careful!

You may owe me a keyboard!

[obamanut2012]

16. hahahahahahhahahhahahahhahahha

[Goonch]

12. BRAINLESS

[BamaRefugee]

20. shouldn't that be Ben Carson with the otoscope?

[Raster]

102. No, he's busy looking for grain in the pyramids.

[BamaRefugee]

113. bwahahaha

[LiberalLoner]

13. LOL!

[wryter2000]

14. LOL

[ucrdem]

17. I'm disgusted that this site has no Special Snowflake exemption for economic progressives.

Hillbots and SJWs are such authoritarians!




p.s. yes this is

[obamanut2012]

18. i want a sjw smilie

[ucrdem]

22. They ruined this site for True Progressives.

What kind of Democrat would ever for a Democrat, anyway?


p.s. this post is also

[obamanut2012]

25. lolz

[sheshe2]

19. Good one!

[obamanut2012]

61. wink

[Tarheel_Dem]

24. K&R!

[Magleetis]

26. Fine

Go ahead and alienate and insult me and others like me. You may need us one day. I already sent an email to admin asking that my account be deleted. Bye.

[wryter2000]

27. Lordy

After everything that's happened since the Orange Abomination took office there are still people here willing to say they didn't vote for the Dem?

[obamanut2012]

32. I wonder if they know how to spell "moran" correctly?

[Eliot Rosewater]

41. Notice the "you may need me or us someday" attitude?

Very familiar.

They learned nothing.

[obamanut2012]

52. yups

AND THEY ARE HARSHING THE BUZZ OF MY FUN THREAD

[obamanut2012]

31. hahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahhaha

Also, Felicia, they are not able to delete your account -- you have to change your password, and just type gibberish in so you can't sign back in.

[procon]

35. When someone announces their impending exit from DU (as if anyone would notice),

I hear that song from "The Sound Of Music":

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye
I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye -- Goodbye!

[Squinch]

46. Lol! I just heard that little sprightly musical interlude between the verses.

Doot do da doot da doot do do.

[WheelWalker]

37. As it turns out, we did need you one day: Nov 8, 2016. Apparently you were busy making other plans

[obamanut2012]

53. ermagerd so stealing this

[FSogol]

63. Tell Jill Stein we all said Hi!

[obamanut2012]

66. lulz

Go check out JPR -- it should be a good fit.

[Demsrule86]

67. if you didn't vote for Hillary...then you voted for Trump.

[asiliveandbreathe]

39. Leaving is up to you...when you say "You may need us one day"..well, that

one day was last November...what have you done to change course for tomorrow? The good people of DU worked endlessly to inform - the Democratic Party is a very diverse party - endless debate..

..do the most good for the most people....

We are not the ME generation - we are the WE generation....

[Squinch]

44. Hon, you gave us Trump. You have clearly proven that when we DID need you, you weren't there.

Now we're supposed to do what? Court you?

Go away.

[still_one]

75. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[still_one]

74. We are alienating you because you refused to vote for the Democratic nominee? YOU ARE THE ONE DOING

THE ALIENATING

Your profile indicates you have been here since 2001. DID YOU EVEN READ THE TOS? That we support Democratic candidates in the general elections has been part of the TOS for over a decade.

As for you're argument, "we may need you one day", NO. YOU WEREN'T THERE in 2016 when the Supreme Court, the Environment, Civil Rights, Women's Rights, workers rights, Social Security, Medicare, etc. were at stake, so frankly, we need that kind of support like a f**king hole in the head.

[ucrdem]

81. Looks like you got your wish.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=103160

Ain't life grand?

[mcar]

29. LOL

[YOHABLO]

42. I think of DU as a small 'd' website, not an extension of the DNC (right or wrong?)

In other words I don't see DU as a website particularly for registered Democrats. Perhaps I'm wrong. I voted for Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the GE. What does that make me .. a traitor?

[onenote]

45. Skinner's post was about the General.

[emulatorloo]

51. That's correct all allied progressives are welcome here

With just a couple of not very onerous caveats:

"Democratic Underground is an online community for friendly, politically liberal people who understand the importance of working together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of American government."

"Members are not expected to hold across-the-board progressive opinions on every single issue, but we do expect members to be generally progressive and to support Democrats at election time"


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FWIW, the DNC (Democratic National Committee) is primarily a fundraising organization. . Does not write the platform. Organizes and puts on the national convention.

It isn't the Democratic Party, that's made up of Democratic voters, politicians, local Organizers etc.

DU is not affiliated with either the Democratic Party or DNC

[seaglass]

100. I am registered unenrolled and feel completely welcome here. I vote D for myself and everyone

else. Doesn't matter who you voted for in the Primary, does matter who you voted for in the GE.

[woodsprite]

107. I did the same. No way in hell would I

Have voted for the orange turd (or any of the other R candidates), but DU does feel like a hostile environment at times, even almost a year after the election. I've been a member since just after the 2004 election, so I've seen lots of crap thrown around. Sometimes you have to ignore it and wade through all the attempts at "stirring" that still go on. Maybe some of the stirrers who were banished have rejoined under new aliases.

As for the election, yup, I believe it was a planned coup, long in the works, and the Rs (Repubs, Rich 1%, and Russians) all found their Manchurian candidates. I DO think that he is not as controllable as they thought he would be, and the Repubs may not have been aware of the extent of Trump & Cos Russian ties at the very beginning. Yup, I believe either Bernie, Hillary, or Biden would have been 1000% better for America and the whole world. I felt of the 3 that Bernie would have had more cross-over appeal. I have seen extreme hatred and vehemence exclaimed over the Clinton name and Biden over the years. It's surprising, a shame, and boggles minds that people can't seem to vote for their best interest simply due to spite and an unhinged hatred.

[SCVDem]

43. Then there is Senough Jerry Moran

From Kansas.

Another Moran?

[LeftishBrit]

47. To be fair I now have a very good MP..

called Layla Moran; so not all Morans are morons!

[Chemisse]

48. Gotta love that old classic. n/t

[obamanut2012]

54. hehehe

[NurseJackie]

49. Ya got me! :-D

[obamanut2012]

56. wink

[BainsBane]

50. I was playing a scrabble type online game

and spelled morons as morans. It wasn't on purpose either.

[obamanut2012]

55. hahaha

[LakeArenal]

59. There are other sites the newly aware can go to......

We really don't want to hear any "I seen the light too late" stories. Especially when a great many here worked desperately to have them see the light.. Anyone who thought Hillary is a liar, or the worse of two evils is person non grata.

[Scurrilous]

62. LOL

Skinner's reply is perfect, misspellings and all.

[Demsrule86]

64. Skinner made it completely clear in that post who is welcome...he decided whether you agree or

don't agree. Personally I agree...those who voted for anyone but Hillary in the general are not Democrats. We support Democrats not trump enabling Green pond scum.

[obamanut2012]

70. but are you concerned that he misspelled "moran"?

[Demsrule86]

73. No...typos don't bother me...not being perfect myself.

[obamanut2012]

99. But he spelled morans wromg -- moron isn't even a word

And, I think Skinner has an MS. So disappointing to me.

[Demsrule86]

105. Such a strange post...a joke I assume.

[pecosbob]

65. I did not support HRC during the primary

I voted for her in the general election only as (IMO) the lesser of two poor choices. In short, I find it difficult to support many of the candidates that the Democratic party has fielded in recent years (decades). All they seem to be able to do is enable the despoilers of the World. Just for the record, when I went to caucus, I was treated quite badly by many of the HRC supporters I encountered there. Not trying to rehash the primary here, but you might want to take a look at the scoreboard first next time you advocate chasing people away. Just my two cents and if you have a problem with me expressing that here you're probably a fascist and just don't realize it.

[obamanut2012]

69. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[JHan]

76. the perfect response.

[radius777]

87. reality inversion - it was the Berners who dominated the caucuses

that are highly undemocratic anyway, as it overrepresents the young, the white and the activists at the expense of rank-and-file Dems, older voters, working people, PoC, etc.

Hillz destroyed Bern anywhere that was populous, diverse and that held a primary.

[malaise]

68. I don't even have a vote

and I have been welcomed

[Eliot Rosewater]

71. LOL

[wellst0nev0ter]

72. Non-Hillary voters are certainly welcome here

Long as they keep quiet about it

[Chakaconcarne]

77. who the he'll is skinner?

and why does anyone give a fuck what Skinner says?

[George II]

78. Check "Contact Us" at the bottom of the page.

[Rhiannon12866]

93. Skinner is the owner and one of the administrators of DU

He and EarlG founded and launched DU on Inauguration Day in 2001 - the day that George W Bush* became president.

[obamanut2012]

94. Why being so rude in my fun thread?

Go smoke some weed or something.

[GetRidOfThem]

79. OK, I am not trying to sound too mean here...

...but does anybody remember that the chief prophet of the Mormons has the name "Moroni"? I could never get over that one, especially during Matt's run. Which is, by the way, also the name of the capital of the tiny African island nation of Comoros....

[obamanut2012]

95. I remember I was a kid when I found that out

And loled.

[plimsoll]

80. The question isn't "HRC GE voters" the question is ideologically blinded people.

OK, my post counts here are small. I don’t post very many places since 2005. I don’t like the troll culture, and it has used the “free speech” argument to pollute and degrade the society since at least 2003 (from a personal ethnology perspective: Can we stake them out in a field and wait for sunrise?) That said I’ve been reading here since 2002, it’s the first place I visit in the morning. If the people here are incensed I visit TPM and Crooks and Liars to see if they’re bent too. DU is my bellwether

I may not entirely like HRC, and actually I supported BS (unfortunate initials) in the primary, but in the general election you had a choice, and I’m sorry no matter how you sugarcoat it the choice was this, "Do you vote for the status quo, flawed as it may be, or do you opt to let the apparent fascist win?"

Not voting for the status quo with all its flaws was a tacit vote for the apparent fascist. I say apparent because at the time he was limiting himself to “fascist curious” behaviors. He never really came out against the fascists, but he didn’t say anything negative either. I’m seldom adopt Manichean positions on things, but this was a case that you either voted for HRC or you accepted a proto-fascist leader. There really isn’t much room to wiggle out here.

At our district caucus, there was another Bernie supporter who said that she wouldn’t vote for HRC. I told here that in our state that might be a safe decision, but in general for an essentially binary system like ours a non-HRC vote would be a vote for the opposition. She gave me a disgusted look and walked off. My 25-year-old son said, “That’s why we’ll lose.”

So, I don’t want to say you can’t come here, but I am going to ask “was it worth it?”

[obamanut2012]

96. tl:dr -- how do you spell moran?

[Starry Messenger]

83. I thought you'd lost it, lol.

Nice work, Tex.

[obamanut2012]

97. giggly wiggly

I was wondering where you were yesterday.

[torius]

85. What about people in blue states?

I know people who live in reliably blue states, such as NY and Calif, who voted for others if that's who they supported, but strongly say they would voted for HRC if they lived in swing or red states. Are they welcome here?

[obamanut2012]

98. What about them? How do they spell moran???

[herding cats]

91. DU isn't the Democratic Party.

It's a private website where we work toward electing more Democrats and currently bemoan the lunacy of the fringe takeover of the GOP. If you're not happy with the constraints of the site, that's ok. No one is going to hold your personal convictions against DU against you in the actual Democratic Party. However, DUers will hold your protest vote against you here. See? Not the same entities?

I've never understood people equating DU with the Democratic Party. It's just silliness. People need to stop twisting themselves into knots trying to link the two as one. They're just not even close to the same entity!

I work with people like you and we reach out to non voters, youth coming of age to vote for the first time and even marginal Republicans. By the time I come here just want to relax, recharge and regain my focus. What I don't want is to have to deal with more angry protest voters on their freaking soapboxes about how they were safe, morally right, making a stand against the system. I'm over that excuse X a million!

For what it's worth, I live in Texas and here protest voters like yourself (I've dealt with on a personal level) have been saying they were in a safe blue district/city, so it didn't matter. Um, no, that's not how it works in a GE, and I'm the person who has to explain all that to them. Seriously, what the fuck? I'm so over it I can't even begin to express to you how sick of this foolishness I am. Yet I'm still polite and work at being educational to them.

So, all the reindeer games are just childish to me. None of those playing games know what they're talking about from another person's perspective, and none of the people playing these games care to actually step outside their bubble where they're reinforced and safe and explore another perspective they're not familiar with already. Everything is as they see it through their private lens.

[obamanut2012]

103. have sadz i missed this

[SunSeeker]

90. LOL

[obamanut2012]

112. the best part

is the folks talking this OP seriously.

[stonecutter357]

92. K&R

[obamanut2012]

101. hahaha

I felt impish when I saw how Skinner had spelled "moran."

[Funtatlaguy]

104. They need to state that they are now Democrats.

That they have registered as Democrats or given money to party or candidates.
They should ask for a major mea culpa from everyone here.
They must tell us who they voted for or if they stayed home in General.
They must tell us that they now know that Hillary would have made a better President in every possible way than Trump.
Then, they should be on super secret probation lest they lapse into their previous ways.

[obamanut2012]

111. What does this have to do with "morons"?

[alarimer]

106. Sorry, it's clear I no longer belong here.

Not because of who I voted or didn't vote for. But because of the relentless hostility.

[obamanut2012]

109. Sorry for being a Grammar AltRight

But, if you misspell "moran," then maybe DU isn't the place for you. It's in the TOS.

[vi5]

108. Like Discussionist?

[obamanut2012]

110. Do they spell "moran" incorrectly

too, as "moron"?

Figures.

[bitterross]

115. Then you can really go to another site

Buh! Bye!

[obamanut2012]

117. lulz