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sandensea

(21,713 posts)
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:07 AM Aug 2017

A racist woman just lost it, tried to place a Mexican family under citizen's arrest

Welcome to Donald Trump’s America.

This woman felt entitled to sit on the car of complete strangers, shout angry (if slurred) profanities at them, demand to see their licenses, and pull a citizen’s arrest on them.

Their crime? Being brown in her Southern California neighborhood.

For millions of Trump followers, this is acceptable behavior — and that is horrifying. This woman looks like a maniac, and she is. Not because she sounds drunk and out of control; but because she is acting on an impulse of hatred.

At: http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/08/22/racist-woman-just-lost-tried-place-mexican-family-citizens-arrest-video/



The girl behind the wheel said it best: Está loca.
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A racist woman just lost it, tried to place a Mexican family under citizen's arrest (Original Post) sandensea Aug 2017 OP
Esta Loca indeed Egnever Aug 2017 #1
What an embarassment to our community. jaysunb Aug 2017 #2
It looks very much like southern Orange County. sandensea Aug 2017 #4
they said Chino shanti Aug 2017 #30
Right you are. sandensea Aug 2017 #37
Shoot shanti Aug 2017 #48
Absolutely. sandensea Aug 2017 #49
Yup! That is about where I live. And it is a right-wing cess pool. Initech Aug 2017 #44
And a beautiful area to live it is. sandensea Aug 2017 #46
Beautiful place to live if you can put up with the ugliness that populates it. Initech Aug 2017 #47
Tell her to get her ass back to Greece dalton99a Aug 2017 #3
The woman visits the cradle of democracy, and not a speck of it rubbed off on her. sandensea Aug 2017 #5
fucking trash JI7 Aug 2017 #6
Bruja. Scurrilous Aug 2017 #7
Can you imagine being married to that? Of that being your mother? Solly Mack Aug 2017 #8
I would kick her ass Skittles Aug 2017 #12
I believe you. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #32
I love your name Skittles, though it ALWAYS makes me want to go get some skittles, preferably anneboleyn Aug 2017 #34
Skittles was my solid black cat Skittles Aug 2017 #39
Sadly, my mother is just like her. LSFL Aug 2017 #27
I'm sorry. I truly am. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #31
But you know, people can and sometimes do change. sandensea Aug 2017 #35
LSFL, if you don't mind saying, do you think it's age related? We have some older relatives who anneboleyn Aug 2017 #36
Is this an example of the wonderful White Culture that the White Nationalists IndianaDave Aug 2017 #9
Trash like this is why we need hate speech laws in this nation. jcmaine72 Aug 2017 #10
Yes, let's diminish American democracy over this. We aren't a monarchy, either. Drop it. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #14
Where are you living? jcmaine72 Aug 2017 #29
possible false imprisonment steventh Aug 2017 #11
In some states it would be that or even kidnapping Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #13
civil vs criminal laws steventh Aug 2017 #16
I don't see a civil claim going anywhere Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #18
It's not always about money steventh Aug 2017 #21
If you have the deep pockets to pay lawyers just for that Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #22
Consider steventh Aug 2017 #25
They really wouldn't Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #26
Someone needs to go to jail. SonofDonald Aug 2017 #15
I hope they sue her yoga spandex, messy haired man bun ass. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #17
sue her yeah steventh Aug 2017 #19
T-swift was tough-as-nails on the witness stand. She was a glory to behold. Honestly it made me a anneboleyn Aug 2017 #42
Stand your ground against deplorables like this! muntrv Aug 2017 #20
I would have just laid on the horn till she moved Major Nikon Aug 2017 #23
They're not CHRISSSSSTIANNNNNNNSSSS! lunatica Aug 2017 #24
Chairwoman of Trump's Latino Outreach Committee. bullwinkle428 Aug 2017 #28
It ain't a crime to be brown in SoCal. Iggo Aug 2017 #33
+1 n/t jaysunb Aug 2017 #43
Get off the phone to your mother and call 911 OnlinePoker Aug 2017 #38
Listening to her President, is all. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #40
The family should have called the police. Vinca Aug 2017 #41
She should be charged with hate crime rockfordfile Aug 2017 #45

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
2. What an embarassment to our community.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:22 AM
Aug 2017

Pure Trump effect.....we never ever see this kind of behavior around here .

sandensea

(21,713 posts)
4. It looks very much like southern Orange County.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:32 AM
Aug 2017

Mission Viejo, probably.

As you know, the area between CA-55 (Costa Mesa) and CA-78 (Escondido) is practically a right-wing confederacy.

There are many exceptions (I was among them); but most voters in that area tend to be your Orly Taitz-clapping, "anchor baby!" yelling Republicans.

sandensea

(21,713 posts)
37. Right you are.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 04:53 PM
Aug 2017

It does look more like Mission Viejo or Laguna Niguel; but then, I'm not that familiar with the city of Chino.

If she does indeed live in Chino, you'd think she would have learned to coexist with Mexican Americans by now; they are, after all, a majority there (54%, according to the last census). The woman's probably scared of her own shadow.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
48. Shoot
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:40 PM
Aug 2017

Anyone living ANYWHERE in California should be very used to Mexican-Americans and any other latino people! My own maternal side of the family has been in California since 1900, and we have several latino people interwoven into it. My ex-husband also just found out that his birth father was Mexican-American, and this particular Mexican family from Durango had been in the US for around the same amount of time as ours.

She sounds like a nasty Trumper for sure!

sandensea

(21,713 posts)
49. Absolutely.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:57 PM
Aug 2017

Even the "whitest" cities in SoCal have sizable Hispanic communities - as well as Asian and Middle Eastern. California truly is the nation's melting pot, and in many ways (certainly not just ethnological) the face of America's future.

For some, that's just too painful a thought. They'd do well to a) take a chill pill, and b) remember that the only thing certain in this world of ours, is change.

Initech

(100,139 posts)
44. Yup! That is about where I live. And it is a right-wing cess pool.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:27 PM
Aug 2017

I live at the north end of CA-55 and I regularly see idiots with Trump signs and bumper stickers, and the occasional American flag flying out the back of a giant pick up truck. Most of my neighbors have drank the Fox News Kool-Aid.

sandensea

(21,713 posts)
46. And a beautiful area to live it is.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:11 PM
Aug 2017

The sunshine, the views, the weather, the rolling hills, the cheery landscaping and hacienda-style homes.

I always felt it was a shame that, amid such appealing surroundings, these Republicans could't learn to mellow a little.

Then again, Republican and mellow are seldom found in the same sentence.

sandensea

(21,713 posts)
5. The woman visits the cradle of democracy, and not a speck of it rubbed off on her.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:36 AM
Aug 2017

All she got, you might say, was that lousy t-shirt (two sizes too small, I might add).

Solly Mack

(90,800 posts)
8. Can you imagine being married to that? Of that being your mother?
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:13 AM
Aug 2017

Being your neighbor? Your co-worker?

What a horrible person she is.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
34. I love your name Skittles, though it ALWAYS makes me want to go get some skittles, preferably
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 04:39 PM
Aug 2017

one of those giant economy sizes -- like that guy in the NFL (he carries them around in a zip-loc bag)

Skittles

(153,298 posts)
39. Skittles was my solid black cat
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 05:12 PM
Aug 2017

I did name him after the candy though...I do loves me some Skittles

sandensea

(21,713 posts)
35. But you know, people can and sometimes do change.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 04:43 PM
Aug 2017

You're very brave to share that; I'll send good thoughts her way.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
36. LSFL, if you don't mind saying, do you think it's age related? We have some older relatives who
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 04:49 PM
Aug 2017

have been starting to suffer from signs of dementia in the last two years (they happen to be a married couple so that makes things even worse). They would never have voted for/supported Trump at any other time as they always voted democrat and would normally find his racism-mongering and many other nasty traits reprehensible.

But they act in just insane ways when it comes to Trump now (in addition to other news issues related to dementia like extreme paranoia) -- they aren't religious people at all but treat him like a cult leader. They act like he's above criticism, that believe every word he says and have adopted his concerns entirely (especially immigration), etc.

IndianaDave

(613 posts)
9. Is this an example of the wonderful White Culture that the White Nationalists
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 03:26 AM
Aug 2017

are trying to preserve? What a pathetic, irrational person!

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
10. Trash like this is why we need hate speech laws in this nation.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 04:16 AM
Aug 2017

If she had done this in the UK, she'd be facing a stiff prison term.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
29. Where are you living?
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 12:37 PM
Aug 2017

Look at who...what...is in the WH. American democracy (or what's left of it) has already been greatly diminished and degraded. The least we can do if we possess any decency whatsoever is make it impossible for racist garbage like this to spew their hateful filth in the public square. Besides, hate speech laws haven't made Western Europe any less democratic or progressive. In fact, they put us to shame. We should be so "undemocratic".

steventh

(2,143 posts)
11. possible false imprisonment
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 04:41 AM
Aug 2017

Is this criminal or civil false imprisonment?

False Imprisonment: The Intentional Tort

The commonly accepted definition of false imprisonment defines the tort as:

the unlawful restraint of another
against their will, and
without legal justification.

Proving the first element of false imprisonment involves looking at the facts and determining whether there was any force -- or threat of some kind -- used in restraining the accusing party. It is important to note that actual force is not necessary. While locking someone in a car or in a room or otherwise blocking their exit is relatively clear-cut, an implied threat of force is also enough to prove intent. An example would be threatening to injure a party if they attempt to leave, even though the exits are not blocked.

More at http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-false-imprisonment.html

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
13. In some states it would be that or even kidnapping
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 06:28 AM
Aug 2017

Depending on the state statutes.


A quick look at CA law shows this would be more likely be false imprisonment, as the distinction in CA appears to be its false imprisonment if you detain someone from leaving or kidnapping if you forcefully move them to another place.

However I am not clear enough on the case law to see if just blocking a vehicle from leaving is enough for the charge, if you don't prevent the person from leaving and walking away. It may be, but on that same hand if so that would allow any protesters who block traffic to face the same charges so it may not be.... every state is different enough that it's hard to know unless you have worked and been training in the details for that state.

steventh

(2,143 posts)
16. civil vs criminal laws
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:31 AM
Aug 2017

The info I posted relates to a tort (civil law) claim the driver and passenger might have against the woman blocking the vehicle. Yes, both criminal and civil laws differ from state to state.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
18. I don't see a civil claim going anywhere
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 09:01 AM
Aug 2017

For a civil claim you need to prove damages or harm. For such a brief encounter where there wasn't physical contact or harm it would be a tough case to bring to trial and win.

steventh

(2,143 posts)
21. It's not always about money
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 09:33 AM
Aug 2017

Sometimes one wants to take a stand for a principle. A $1 judgment and attorney fees would be worthwhile to make a point. The harm is the car occupants' delay of their right to proceed.

See, e.g., recent victorious Taylor Swift civil litigation that resulted in $1 damage award.
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10029461716

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
22. If you have the deep pockets to pay lawyers just for that
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 09:58 AM
Aug 2017

When a case isn't likely to payout most lawyers won't take it on contingency.

steventh

(2,143 posts)
25. Consider
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 11:19 AM
Aug 2017

It's true that Taylor Swift has deep pockets with which to hire private counsel. The ACLU, SPLC, Legal Aid and/or other organizations and/or large law firms might be glad to volunteer to take a case such as this pro bono.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
26. They really wouldn't
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 11:34 AM
Aug 2017

They all don't have deep unlimited pockets. Especially legal aid, they turn away much, much more valid cases than this because of lilies resources.

The SPLC and ACLU concentrate their efforts on high profile cases and ones where a victory will actually produce a real impact. Taking a case of dubious merit in the first place just to make a statement against one unhinged loser isn't on their priority list. Now if this person was a high profile leader of a white nationalist group and going after them would have an impact on the wider group and send a message that might get the SPLC interested. Your garden variety neighborhood racist trash isn't.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
15. Someone needs to go to jail.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 07:57 AM
Aug 2017

I'd love to see the cuffs on her, but if you were to bump the back of her knee she would sit right down, that would take the wind out of her sails.

Just a thought.

steventh

(2,143 posts)
19. sue her yeah
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 09:23 AM
Aug 2017

Just as Taylor Swift recently sued successfully for $1 damages in a civil court case against a wrong-doer, it would be good to see this vigilante and others with similar lawless beliefs learn that they can't harass fellow citizens who are innocently going about their lives on American streets.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
42. T-swift was tough-as-nails on the witness stand. She was a glory to behold. Honestly it made me a
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 06:11 PM
Aug 2017

big fan of her even though I've felt somewhat meh about her in the past.

Vinca

(50,326 posts)
41. The family should have called the police.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 05:30 PM
Aug 2017

The woman should have been arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct.

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