Rep. Speier calls for Trump's removal from office under 25th Amendment

[HAB911]

"POTUS is showing signs of erratic behavior and mental instability that place the country in grave danger," Speier tweeted Tuesday night. "Time to invoke the 25th Amendment."

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article167655477.html

[FM123]

1. I would like to see him "removed" by one of those huge white garbage trucks

that are always parked in front of Trump Tower

[bearsfootball516]

2. I think people underestimate how difficult it is to invoke the 25th amendment

You need the vice president and EIGHT cabinet officials to sign off on it first. And then if the president disapproves it, both the House and Senate need a two-third's majority to vote against the president.

If people think impeachment is hard, invoking the 25th amendment is even harder.

The first step would be getting Pence to stab him in the back, and so far, he's been nothing but staunchly loyal.

[exboyfil]

3. Yes and Trump is not removed

from office. He can petition approximately 90 days for reinstatement. Each time you need to have a 2/3rds vote in each House

It is the Walking Dead version of impeachment.

The only solution is to threaten his cash and even then, I am not sure.

He has a greater than 2/3rds chance of finishing his term.

[bearsfootball516]

4. Similar to what I said yesterday

Greater than 2/3rds is being low IMO. I'd put it at 90 percent, with a 9 percent chance he steps down because he's so miserable and a 1 percent chance of impeachment.

People don't like hearing this on DU, but the Democrats need to focus on dominating in 2018, and then building a strong candidate with a powerful, easy to understand message that can throttle Trump in 2020. That is by far, the most plausible way Trump leaves office.

[exboyfil]

5. I think personal

health might lower the number. His response to a crisis might be key. If he is managed properly, he might leverage it to much higher poll numbers (see Bush II and 9/11). I am just not sure he is tempermentally able to do it.

I do agree that the focus should be on advancing candidates and policies. Look positive and not negative.

Unfortunately that did not work in the last election.

[zipplewrath]

6. Top Cover

Getting the cabinet to invoke the 25th would only be to give "top cover" to the GOP. They could remove him from office without actually having to accuse him of significant crimes. Pence could take office under a supposition of stepping in for an "ailing" Trump. We'd have long discussions on Fox about dementia and health care. And they could pass the "Trump Memorial Tax Reform Plan".

[exboyfil]

7. Will Trump go along with it

If not then the House and Senate get to vote every 90 days under the 25th Amendment.

[zipplewrath]

9. Nope

But the congress can impeach him and that ends the whole thing. They can gin up any minor "crime", blame it on his obvious medical problem, use his cabinets declaration as "evidence" and move it through the system.

[procon]

10. No one in Trump's ass-kissing cabinet will defect as long as they remain

compliant in their supporting roles to sing his praises and fluff up his ego with paons to his exalted majesty of being.

Just remember that video where every single person in Trump's cabinet recited odes to their Dear Leader, either because they willingly agreed to become stage props, or they were hostages in fear of their lives. My bet is on the former.

[lindysalsagal]

8. Gotta keep saying it. Catapult the propaganda.

[hamsterjill]

11. My faith is in Mueller.

Come on, Mueller. Our nation's lonely eyes turn to you.