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boston bean

(36,224 posts)
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 08:35 PM Aug 2017

ACLU Changes Policy on Defending Hate Groups Protesting With Firearms

The American Civil Liberties Union, taking a tougher stance on armed protests, will no longer defend hate groups seeking to march with firearms, the group’s executive director said.

Following clashes over the weekend in Charlottesville, Va., the civil-rights group also will screen clients more closely for the potential of violence at their rallies, said Anthony Romero, who has been the ACLU’s executive director since 2001.

The ACLU’s Virginia branch defended the right of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and other groups under the banner “Unite the Right” to protest the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a Charlottesville park.

“The events of Charlottesville require any judge, any police chief and any legal group to look at the facts of any white-supremacy protests with a much finer comb,” said Mr. Romero.



https://www.wsj.com/articles/aclu-changes-policy-on-defending-hate-groups-protesting-with-firearms-1503010167
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ACLU Changes Policy on Defending Hate Groups Protesting With Firearms (Original Post) boston bean Aug 2017 OP
Seriously. I'm all for the 1st Amendment, but if they need to bring guns Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #1
Someone with a gun prevents free speech through intimidation. boston bean Aug 2017 #2
Excellent point! MyOwnPeace Aug 2017 #7
Certainly, from a legal defense perspective, they have taken it out of a purely 1A question into a Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #10
I was thinking about what could happen with so many now carry guns in public question everything Aug 2017 #3
Vague memory.......... MyOwnPeace Aug 2017 #8
'bout damn time DURHAM D Aug 2017 #4
If there's a worse public policy idea than open carry don't let me know BeyondGeography Aug 2017 #5
Finally. dalton99a Aug 2017 #6
KNR Lucinda Aug 2017 #9
Hey Lucinda! Haven't seen you around!! boston bean Aug 2017 #11
Thankie! Lotta pain these days and am going to see a new surgeon soon, so Lucinda Aug 2017 #12
Sorry to hear that!! Hope things get better quickly. boston bean Aug 2017 #14
Thankie! Good to hear all is well with you! Lucinda Aug 2017 #15
One of the reasons I am not a member. Dawson Leery Aug 2017 #13
I am glad that the ACLU changed their policies Gothmog Aug 2017 #16

MyOwnPeace

(16,946 posts)
7. Excellent point!
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 09:01 PM
Aug 2017

"Yes, it's me with my convictions against that guy with a semi-automatic. I'm fine with that."
(NEVER heard anywhere!)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. Certainly, from a legal defense perspective, they have taken it out of a purely 1A question into a
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 09:06 PM
Aug 2017

2A one.

To my mind, anyway.

Philosophically, I agree with you, but beyond that the ACLU focuses on defending 1st Amendment rights. The NRA is flush with cash, the ACLU doesn't need to waste legal defense money on these open carry yarblockos.

I find these losers with the fetish for waving their firearms around in public pathetic.

If you "need" a gun to express your 1st Amendment rights, you're weak. The truly brave are the people who stand out there and stare down hate with just a sign and the courage of their convictions.

question everything

(47,551 posts)
3. I was thinking about what could happen with so many now carry guns in public
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 08:41 PM
Aug 2017

and so many states allow it.

I can see someone just fire a shot, in panic, or by mistake, and the next thing everyone responses.

MyOwnPeace

(16,946 posts)
8. Vague memory..........
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 09:03 PM
Aug 2017

didn't that already happen somewhere in the US (not to name names ((Texas)) - when a random shot went of and caused more chaos?

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
12. Thankie! Lotta pain these days and am going to see a new surgeon soon, so
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 09:15 PM
Aug 2017

hopefully there will be better days by the end of the year. Hope all is well with you and yours! (apart from the nightmare in the WH)

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
13. One of the reasons I am not a member.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 09:17 PM
Aug 2017

There is no excuse for firearms at protests.

Such threats of violence are not protected.

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