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Someone really should have told us that he was unfit for office? That he lacked the temperament, knowledge, and judgment to serve as commander in chief. Or that he'd put his own business interests ahead of the country. Or that he'd continue to engage in childish Twitter wars unbecoming of the office. Or that he'd respond to a crisis by reacting rashly and making a bigger mess of it. Or that he was a divider at a time when we actually needed someone who believed that we are all stronger together.
We probably wouldn't be in this position if someone had just warned the country before last November!
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)MiniMe
(21,722 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Deafening, but some of the Trump voters were blind and deaf.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)southerncrone
(5,506 posts)The fools never even considered that that "change" could possibly be for the worse....
Kleveland
(1,257 posts)Seriously, who knew?!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)So who could have guessed?
lapfog_1
(29,239 posts)"Mom, there are cops (or "people that warn us that Trump is unfit" outside...
"How many?"
"Ummm. all of them I think!"
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)No one could have seen this shitshow coming. My goodness, Trump was just riveting on the campaign trail! He said things nobody else was saying. Sure, his policy positions were poorly defined, but how could anyone put down a detailed, coherent policy about anything? You'd have to, like, know how government works and how it interfaces with the population and integrates with the business sector, and nobody how that works! Okay, some of his rhetoric was a weensy bit over the top, but everyone who supported Trump knew - they just knew - that Trump wasn't bullshitting about the most important thing (whatever that might be to any random supporter).
As usual, though, the dirty fucking hippies were yammering away in the background, and now some of them want to pretend they saw it coming all along. But they're dirty fucking hippies, so they don't count, then or now.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Kleveland
(1,257 posts)As far as technique, or anything else.
They sure don't have those snappy uniforms!
<sarcasm>
0rganism
(23,984 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)betsuni
(25,751 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)who voted for tRump just exactly what he is but they never listened to a word I said.
Now several of them deny they voted for his orangness. LOL
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)That's the next phase - denying they voted for him.
Give it a few months, and we'll all be wondering how he ever got elected with less than two thousand votes nationwide.
madokie
(51,076 posts)by the time he was on his way out no one would admit they voted for him. LOL
Peace
calimary
(81,562 posts)He won TWO terms, for Pete's sake, even though as we all know, he didn't complete the second one. So SOMEBODY voted for him! But after Watergate, you couldn't pay somebody to say they'd voted for him (even if you knew them and strongly suspected they had).
fallout87
(819 posts)Thing... is that I think he will be elected a second time. If he hasn't been impeached by now... nothing is going to stop him. I'm just being honest, and that's just my opinion... but I'm done having hope. Time to be realistic and act accordingly.
calimary
(81,562 posts)I'm not sure he'll last that long. I saw Tony Schwartz, the REAL author of "The Art of the Deal," on camera talking about expecting trump to resign, maybe later this year, because he probably won't be able to stand a full four years of this. Hell, neither can WE!!!
He was making the rounds in the media today and I saw him. He had several tweets of note, in his own right:
Tony Schwartz
✔@tonyschwartz
Think of Trump as a toddler w/ reactive attachment disorder, and therefore in a permanent virulent tantrum. His development ended at age 7.
5:45 AM - Aug 16, 2017
Tony Schwartz
✔@tonyschwartz
Remember that every time Trump criticizes and demeans someone he is projecting his deep sense of inadequacy & self-hatred onto others.
5:53 AM - Aug 16, 2017
Tony Schwartz
✔@tonyschwartz
The circle is closing at blinding speed. Trump is going to resign and declare victory before Mueller and congress leave him no choice.
10:34 AM - Aug 16, 2017
Tony Schwartz
✔@tonyschwartz
Trump's presidency is effectively over. Would be amazed if he survives till end of the year. More likely resigns by fall, if not sooner.
12:20 PM - Aug 16, 2017
Tony Schwartz
✔@tonyschwartz
Trump must be isolated. Resistance every day. The end is near but must keep pressure high.
3:58 PM - Aug 16, 2017
TRUMPS ART OF THE DEAL GHOSTWRITER IS PREDICTING TRUMP WILL RESIGN SOON
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/17/1690875/-Trump-s-Art-of-the-Deal-ghostwriter-predicting-Trump-will-resign-soon
ART OF THE DEAL GHOSTWRITER PREDICTS TRUMP WILL RESIGN
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/art-of-the-deal-author-trump-resignation-prediction/index.html
A friend and I have been speculating about trump's end. I think if he gets word that Mueller has him nailed, trump is gonna take Melania, their kid, plus Jared and Ivanka and their kids, and bug the hell out. He'll leave Uday and Qusay behind. NOBODY's as important as his Ivanka. They'll all just mysteriously disappear, under cover of the dark of night. With no word, they'll make a run for it, to hide in Crimea. Why not live like the czars did when they went south for the winter? His friend Vlad would surely help out a pal, 'eh? My friend suspects much the same kind of disappearing act, except substitute Cuba for Crimea.
Wonder if trump is destined to spend the rest of his miserable over-bloated life as an ex-pat, peddling as fast as his widdle feet can peddle, to stay a step ahead of Interpol?
Has been wrong about Trump before. Believe me, I hope he is right... but I dont have much faith. There have been many predictions about Trump that have not come true. Hope for the best, expect the worst.
MyOwnPeace
(16,949 posts)and nobody would believe that a US President would have in any way been involved with a "second-rate" illegal event.
Well, I was right - but, boy, did we pay!
And I'm thinking we're gonna' pay SO MUCH MORE this time!!!!
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,258 posts)I'm thinking she should have organized a big gathering, maybe even called it something like a "convention." And then broadcast a big speech from that "convention" to a national audience.
And if that didn't work, she could have engaged him directly in a battle of words. Like a debate kind of thing. THAT definitely would have prevented this nightmare.
MyOwnPeace
(16,949 posts)I see what you did there!!!!!
Yes, WHAT THE HELL WERE PEOPLE THINKING!
BUT, THE E-MAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bleacher Creature
(11,258 posts)One is my own, and the other is my work's. I find it incredibly annoying and inconvenient.
And if anyone looks at me funny when I have them both out, I have to restrain myself from snapping at them since we literally rejected one of the most qualified people ever to run for President because she also didn't want to lug around two phones.
MyOwnPeace
(16,949 posts)to have to defend even the most obvious answers to idiots that won't take ANYTHING for a reasonable (as if they knew what the word "reasonable" meant) answer. They had tunnel vision - she would NEVER be president. There was NO explaining/reasoning with any of them.
And to be honest, I STILL don't know how that can be done with those defending Orange Cheat-o now!
lapucelle
(18,378 posts)one so stunning that our government put us all on notice as to its existence and danger.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I stood in front of a brick wall. I lectured that brick wall on the dangers of electing tRump. My lecture was full of statistics and rational premises that anyone would have to accept. You know what? That damned brick wall just wouldn't listen.
calimary
(81,562 posts)My "Oh, I want a woman president. Just not THAT woman" friend. I begged her to consider Hillary. Over and over again I covered all her doubts and debunked all the bullshit and lies and character assassination that the CONS have shoveled at us for years, hating on Hillary - NONE of it true, but she just would not be convinced. She simply refused delivery. A total lost cause. She did indeed go for trump. Not because of him, so much, but she likes Mike Pence and thinks he's had so much experience as a former Congressman that he has all these relationships and could work with people and (roll out that ol' cliche) get things done. I literally screamed! I screamed! "MIKE PENCE????????????" I feel like "Honey, WHERE did we go wrong?"
When she starts pushing Nikki Haley or Joni Ernst or some such, I plan on hauling out that "Oh, I want a woman president. Just not THAT woman" moldy oldie and laying it directly upon her.
I will NEVER vote republi-CON. I can't. They're against everything I believe in, and I'm against everything they believe in.
MyOwnPeace
(16,949 posts)You should have been talking to dRump's wall!!!! (yeah, that doesn't exist either!)
Duppers
(28,130 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)fallout87
(819 posts)The orange bafoon is out of control. How long until he's gone? I just can't , for the life of me, understand how he is still in office!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)No surprises, folks. "Sad."
dalton99a
(81,673 posts)Mitt Romney slams phony Trump: Hes playing the American public for suckers
By Ed O'Keefe | March 3, 2016
SALT LAKE CITY Mitt Romney, the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, delivered a sweeping point-by-point indictment of Donald Trump on Thursday and implored Republicans to reject the businessmans candidacy in an election "that will have profound consequences for the Republican Party and, more importantly, for the country."
"Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud," Romney told nearly 700 people at the University of Utah. "His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. He's playing members of the American public for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House, and all we get is a lousy hat."
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,949 posts)You forgot the other important issue - E-MAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(God help us all!)
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)bora13
(860 posts)comment from Pol Prog on politico/facebook:
"As he once again proved by canceling his Manufacturing Council and Policy Forum, Trump is a quitter when things get tough. But in his mind, quitters never lose.
That said... I''ve no doubt he'd take his ball and go home in a New York second if he didn't need the power of the pardon.
Trump is WEAK!
Trump is a LOSER!"
jalan48
(13,907 posts)He was touted as an outsider who was going to clean the Washington DC swamp and many simple minded Americans fell for it. He also benefited from more free air time than any other candidate. The media failed to do their job of exposing him and his shady business practices, supposedly because he was good for ratings.
MyOwnPeace
(16,949 posts)1. Why did the electorate want change - Obama had provided that change (saved economy, etc). Or was it that they wanted a different "color" in the White House?
2. Is it the duty of the media to prove a liar? Somewhere along the line shouldn't a clear-thinking reasonable person be able to see what's there in front of them?
It is not all that simple - and we need to figure it out going into 2018 - for the sake of all that is right and fair in the United States of America!
jalan48
(13,907 posts)Unfortunately, they vote for the image rather than the substance. I think the change voters wanted was someone they viewed as being outside the political "elite". Trump sold them on being that outsider that promised to change things. I don't doubt that many are racists and Trump's Birtherism was proof he was one of them.
I think it is the duty of the media to call candidates like Trump out. I don't think most voters pay as much attention as we do here on DU. Voters can be easily played by propaganda and fear tactics which is what the Republicans do. Issues seem to be secondary for many. The media should be focusing the voter's attention on the issues but instead we got, "What crazy thing did Trump say or do today?" A reality TV election if you will.
Different Drummer
(7,669 posts)they thought it would be a good idea to elect a political novice and, by golly, they pulled it off!
Beartracks
(12,827 posts)Someone else we could've voted for!
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Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)Can't remember his name, but he was "white", even though he had a decidedly orange tint. He warned us over and over and over again, and he was no shrinking violet about it, either: he was loud, extremely blunt, and he didn't even care if his warnings offended people. Over the course of 15 entire months, he warned us repeatedly! But, apparently, not enough people paid attention.
I wonder what became of the poor, quixotic bastard?
defacto7
(13,485 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)People didn't want to believe the election could be hacked or rigged. People didn't want to believe voter suppression could be bad enough to count. People didn't want to think their government could be that corrupt. People didn't think their participation really mattered.
People just livin a dream of "it can never happen here".
Do you think anyone learned anything?
Will people let it happen again?
I dont know.
betsuni
(25,751 posts)I'm pessimistic, have a feeling the same thing's going to happen again.
moonseller66
(430 posts)Tramp is the kind of guy you don't like at first, but grow to hate.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)ecstatic
(32,777 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)I was not impressed by several news people and a voter who had suddenly decided that the loon was a racist/ bigot and unfit and the voter said he realized now it was a serious mistake- 15 months of nazi rallies and all the other shit wasn't enough???? Wtf???? No - you just didn't care and you were willing to overlook all of that.