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Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:02 PM Aug 2017

So what do you think the chances are the DOJ will investigate the Charlottesville PD..

and why they, from what I have been reading, stood down and refused to patrol the Synagogue, let armed and armored fascists show up to riot and murder?

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So what do you think the chances are the DOJ will investigate the Charlottesville PD.. (Original Post) Thomas Hurt Aug 2017 OP
Zero SHRED Aug 2017 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author muntrv Aug 2017 #3
I may be wrong, but safeinOhio Aug 2017 #2
+1, the pd said they were overpowered YCHDT Aug 2017 #4
The police chief was black so I'd say the chance is pretty high. They'd love to make an example of SweetieD Aug 2017 #5
From what I understand city leadership and the police chief are all fairly progressive people Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #6
Didn't the Mayor tell them to stand down? nt B2G Aug 2017 #7
But...but he prosecuted the Michael Donald case so he's not racist! muntrv Aug 2017 #8
And it's Charlottesville, not Charlotte. nt B2G Aug 2017 #9
Thanks, missed that typo. Thomas Hurt Aug 2017 #11
The alt-right protesters were better armed than the Charlottesville PD. mia Aug 2017 #10
Good question speaktruthtopower Aug 2017 #12
Zero -- the Cville PD cannot handle a situation like this obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #13

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Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
6. From what I understand city leadership and the police chief are all fairly progressive people
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:13 PM
Aug 2017

I'm still trying to make sense of what actions they did or didn't take and who gave what orders there.

mia

(8,356 posts)
10. The alt-right protesters were better armed than the Charlottesville PD.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:26 PM
Aug 2017
The first and second amendments clashed in Charlottesville: The guns won.

As it turned out, the nightmare that unfolded on Saturday in this small college town involved a great deal more than an ideological clash and demanded far more police protection than was available. Dozens of white nationalists showed up toting semi-automatic weapons, as did some counter-protesters, making it all but impossible for police to intervene when violence erupted. In short order, peaceful protesters were forced to hide as armed rioters attacked one another with clubs, smoke bombs, and pepper spray.

Complaints abound that law enforcement officers looked on from the sidelines as the brutality quickly escalated into a crisis. The tragedy culminated in the death of 32-year-old Heather Heyer when a white supremacist rammed his car into a group of peaceful protesters.

Seen in isolation, Conrad’s order was grounded in solid First Amendment doctrine: Charlottesville could not, he ruled, relocate the racist demonstrators “based on the content of [their] speech.” This is textbook law, but one is left to wonder whether it takes into account armed white supremacists invading a city with promises of confrontation. Conrad’s decision seems to have been issued in a vacuum, one in which Second Amendment open-carry rights either swallowed First Amendment doctrine altogether or were simply wished away, for after-the-fact analysis. The judge failed to answer the central question: When demonstrators plan to carry guns and cause fights, does the government have a compelling interest in regulating their expressive conduct more carefully than it’d be able to otherwise? This is not any one judge’s fault. It is a failure of our First Amendment jurisprudence to reckon with our Second Amendment reality....

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/08/the_first_and_second_amendments_clashed_in_charlottesville_the_guns_won.html

obamanut2012

(25,911 posts)
13. Zero -- the Cville PD cannot handle a situation like this
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:36 PM
Aug 2017

The VSP and NG do need to be investigated, and I think the Cville PD and the UVA PD need to have the Feds come train them, for real.

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