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The Rude PunditProudly lowering the level of political discourse
8/14/2017
A Few Comments on Hating the Hateful
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There are some things we need to agree on as a nation to move forward. The problem isn't that people think they're Nazis or neo-Confederates, per se; we're never eliminating stupidity. It's that we think there is something noble about tolerating Nazis; about trying to understand their ideology in an almost sympathetic way, about writing goddamned profiles about the new, sexy white nationalist movement, as if a fucking racist isn't just, in the end, a fucking racist, no matter how many times he wears an ill-fitting sports jacket.
And it is long, long past time to stop tolerating in any sense the idea that the Confederacy is a heritage worth honoring. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fuck your ancestors who fought to maintain slavery. I don't give a dry rat turd how nobly they fought. They believed that human beings were property and could be beaten, raped, and killed. Fuck 'em. If you think there should be statues to them, then you're the asshole. If I found out my great-grandfather was a child molester, I sure as hell wouldn't want to honor him because he built a nice house. And I'd be appalled if anyone wanted to celebrate his architectural heritage.
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If we can't agree on our goddamned American history, if we can't agree that some ideas don't deserve a hearing beyond the half-human online scrawlings of some cretinous asshole with a frog avatar and a collection of concentration camp photos he jacks off to, then we're fucked. I want people to feel shame for believing these things. I want them driven out of the public square. I want them fired if they express it publicly, especially if they're cops or in positions of authority. You're free to say and believe what you want. And we're free to say your ideas are barbaric enough to tell you to change or get the fuck out of our society. This is about who we are as a nation.
You're allowed to hate Hate. You're allowed to be prejudiced against Prejudice. You're allowed to destroy the monuments to people who tried to destroy the country. You're allowed to say that support of genocide and enslavement isn't a position that deserves being heard in the modern United States. You're allowed to tell these tiki-torch-carrying vermin that they can kiss your American ass with their traitorous lips. We kicked them in the balls before and we'll do it again. Your Robert E. Lee statues are fucking done.
Go the fuck back underground. And take your shitty president with you.
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dalton99a
(81,656 posts)GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)When protestors AGAINST hate pulled down a statue of one of these "brave" rapist and murderers without waiting for "the right time."
Xolodno
(6,408 posts)...the vast majority who fought and died did not own slaves. And given their economic status, were never likely to do so. Slavery actually kept them poor and economically depressed.
Once it was outlawed, they actually improved their economic status but the wealthy plantation owners, weren't as rich as they used to be.
The history of the Civil War has been corrupted and lied about, for example;
"The War of Northern Aggression"
FALSE: The South started the war when it fired upon Fort Sumter. They then proceeded to invade the North, with the goal of taking Washington DC. Their goal, to force the North to cede territory in the West.
"They felt that their way of life was being threatened"
FALSE; The Abolitionists goals were to contain slavery into the states that still recognized and not allow it to expand. In fact, the slavery states had successfully got a law passed that a fleeing slave in a northern state was still their property and could still apprehend him/her. Hence why fleeing slaves now had to flee to Canada.
"The war was about the agricultural south vs. industrial north".
Surprise, some truth to that, but its often "spinned" in the wrong way. Wealthy Southerners wanted to get into industry as well. Except it lacked the local resources to fully exploit it. There were resources in the West, however, they would not be able to reap the yields of it if their cheap source of labor, slaves, were outlawed. Furthermore, they did not like the level of immigration coming in from Europe, this meant the labor pool was larger and the Government, to make sure they had jobs, would limit slavery and not allow the expansion.
pwb
(11,295 posts)Highways, streets, buildings you name it. Hard to erase history. Harder even to learn from it, especially in the south. Enjoy the rude pundit very much.