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modrepub

(3,505 posts)
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:42 AM Aug 2017

Police stood by as mayhem mounted in Charlottesville

State police and National Guardsmen watched passively for hours as self-proclaimed Nazis engaged in street battles with counter-protesters.


CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — There was nothing haphazard about the violence that erupted today in this bucolic town in Virginia's heartland. At about 10 a.m. on Saturday, at one of countless such confrontations, an angry mob of white supremacists formed a battle line across from a group of counter-protesters, many of them older and gray-haired, who had gathered near a church parking lot. On command from their leader, the young men charged and pummeled their ideological foes with abandon. One woman was hurled to the pavement, and the blood from her bruised head was instantly visible.

Standing nearby, an assortment of Virginia State Police troopers and Charlottesville police wearing protective gear watched silently from behind an array of metal barricades — and did nothing.

It was a scene that played out over and over in Charlottesville as law enforcement confronted the largest public gathering of white supremacists in decades. We walked the streets beginning in the early morning hours and repeatedly witnessed instances in which authorities took a largely laissez faire approach, allowing white supremacists and counter-protesters to physically battle.

Officials in Charlottesville had publicly promised to maintain control of the "Unite the Right" rally, which is the latest in a series of chaotic and bloody racist rallies that have roiled this college town, a place deeply proud of its links to Thomas Jefferson and the origins of American Democracy.

But the white supremacists who flooded into the city's Emancipation Park — a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee sits in the center of the park — had spent months openly planning for war. The Daily Stormer, a popular neo-Nazi website, encouraged rally attendees to bring shields, pepper spray, and fascist flags and flagpoles. A prominent racist podcast told its listeners to come carrying guns. "Bring whatever you need, that you feel you need for your self defense. Do what you need to do for security of your own person," said Mike "Enoch" Peinovich on The Right Stuff podcast.

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In the weeks leading up to the protest, city and state officials put together a detailed plan for the rally, mobilizing 1,000 first responders, including 300 state police troopers and members of the National Guard. Judging from how events unfolded today, it appears that the strategy was to avoid direct confrontations with the protesters.

Miriam Krinsky, a former federal prosecutor who has worked on police reform efforts in Los Angeles, said it was too early to assess the law enforcement response in Charlottesville.

But she said a strategy of disengagement generally works to embolden unruly crowds.

"If things start to escalate and there's no response, it can very quickly get out of control," she said. "Individuals can and will get hurt."

But an overly forceful response, she said, can also make the situation worse. Krinsky said attempts to seize weapons might have led to more clashes between police and protesters. "Trying to take things away from people is unlikely to be a calming influence," she told ProPublica.

A good strategy, she said, is to make clashes less likely by separating the two sides physically, with officers forming a barrier between them. "Create a human barrier so the flash points are reduced as quickly as possible," she said.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/Police-stood-by-Charlottesville-white-nationalists-nazi-rally.html

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Police stood by as mayhem mounted in Charlottesville (Original Post) modrepub Aug 2017 OP
I hope the police respond in San Francisco and Boston in a few weeks. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #1
So many of the police are racists and sympathize with the Neo-Nazis bitterross Aug 2017 #2
Question is, who gave the order to stand down? shraby Aug 2017 #3
That is the key question- what were the orders of the day Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #4

BigmanPigman

(51,649 posts)
1. I hope the police respond in San Francisco and Boston in a few weeks.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:57 AM
Aug 2017

There are planned alt right rallies in those two liberal cities.

The cops did nothing when they tried to incite violence at the Impeachment Trump rally I attended in San Diego in July. The Proud Boys came a long distance to attempt to disrupt our march and the cops stood there and watched.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
2. So many of the police are racists and sympathize with the Neo-Nazis
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:35 AM
Aug 2017

I am not saying ALL police are racists. They are not. There are some good, ethical, principled police officers.

Unfortunately, there are many, many racists in police departments and in the upper echelons of those departments. Back in the heyday of the KKK the police didn't stop the lynchings because THEY were the ones under the hoods along with the mayors and the rest of the town councils.

We see now, clearly, that we have returned to those times.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. Question is, who gave the order to stand down?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:38 AM
Aug 2017

The job of the Police is to maintain law and order. Someone must have told them to not interfere.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
4. That is the key question- what were the orders of the day
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:18 PM
Aug 2017

And where did they come from.

In a riot type situation all response is coordinated from a central authority who makes the calls as to who, what, when, where and how actions are taken.

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