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W is still worse (Original Post) SHRED Aug 2017 OP
Give Trump time. n/t Still In Wisconsin Aug 2017 #1
I had the same thought Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #4
All he has to do is order an attack on NK and the carnage in Seoul would eclipse all of W's deaths Still In Wisconsin Aug 2017 #8
Trump will have millions lives lost. SummerSnow Aug 2017 #7
...and none of those lives will matter to TRUMP Still In Wisconsin Aug 2017 #10
I dunno. Orsino Aug 2017 #13
Let's hope you're right! n/t Still In Wisconsin Aug 2017 #15
Yeah, even though I keep being wrong. n/t Orsino Aug 2017 #24
Exactly. Could be a tossup between a dumb guy who listens to the wrong people Warpy Aug 2017 #20
Yeah. Four Chins' cabinet is really Jahhr-uhhd, some days Bannon, and the cast of Fox and Friends. Still In Wisconsin Aug 2017 #27
I thought the same thing Dem_4_Life Aug 2017 #29
hopefully Trump doesn't change that equation virtualobserver Aug 2017 #2
Only because he had two terms to BE worse. HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #3
So far wryter2000 Aug 2017 #5
WTF does this even mean. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #6
It means SHRED Aug 2017 #11
It also means the next assrocket they pick will likely be worse. HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #25
8 years versus 6 months. (n/t) Iggo Aug 2017 #9
In the sense rock Aug 2017 #12
W lumping NK in with his "axis of evil" Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2017 #18
Trump's climate denying and other lies will prove to be more damaging. nt oasis Aug 2017 #14
Drumpf hasn't been around as long. lark Aug 2017 #16
The Shrub had eight years. nt. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #17
9/11 took almost 9 months Renew Deal Aug 2017 #19
Hey, it's just Thursday... Give Trump the weekend and check back with us! Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #21
Lol SHRED Aug 2017 #22
Trump says "Hold my beer" moda253 Aug 2017 #23
We have ISIS because of W. Initech Aug 2017 #26
Well yeah...in the sense that at this point in his first term, Ken Burch Aug 2017 #28
It's sort of six of one, but ucrdem Aug 2017 #30
You're comparing 8 years to 6 months. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #31
yes. isis. katrina, CHEENEY, plaime, 9/11. a year of vacation. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #32
It's silly to compare 8 years to 6 months Kaleva Aug 2017 #33
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
8. All he has to do is order an attack on NK and the carnage in Seoul would eclipse all of W's deaths
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:16 PM
Aug 2017

within the first hour. And that's just from Kim's artillery. If he launches on, say, Tokyo...

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. I dunno.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:17 PM
Aug 2017

Dubya and Cheney served their class, who profited from war.

Trump is only interested in himself, so his agenda will only serve him, and in any case his presidency isn't built to last. I think he won't rack up a big body count.

Warpy

(111,404 posts)
20. Exactly. Could be a tossup between a dumb guy who listens to the wrong people
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:32 PM
Aug 2017

and a dumb guy who listens to no one but the TV and the voices in his head.

They're equally dangerous.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
27. Yeah. Four Chins' cabinet is really Jahhr-uhhd, some days Bannon, and the cast of Fox and Friends.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:48 PM
Aug 2017

Maybe one could throw Ivahhhnkahh in there but I'm not sure.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
3. Only because he had two terms to BE worse.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:12 PM
Aug 2017

Trust me, once Kremlin Donny Tovarich gets ahold of something, he'll fuck it up almost instantly.

And our failure to prosecute W for war crimes or Reagone for high treason will almost assure that whatever criminality Schtroumpf pulls, he'll get away with it.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
25. It also means the next assrocket they pick will likely be worse.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:37 PM
Aug 2017

If trends are any indicator and as scary as that is to fathom.

We could be looking at an IRL Adam Sutler in 2020 or 2024.

rock

(13,218 posts)
12. In the sense
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:17 PM
Aug 2017

We did NOT worry about w dropping a nuclear bomb. I don't recall us discussing this possibility where w was concerned. Now a lot of us didn't want him to go to war but we meant "conventional" war. As I say we would have horrified to the max had someone mentioned nuclear.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,450 posts)
18. W lumping NK in with his "axis of evil"
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:31 PM
Aug 2017

and backing out of the Agreed Framework that Clinton had worked out with NK is at least partially why we are where we are with NK today. I believe that NK became an actual nuclear power on his watch, in fact. If Trump/GOP has their way with the Iranian agreement that President Obama and other countries negotiated, they might also push Iran into the "Nuclear Club" too.

lark

(23,182 posts)
16. Drumpf hasn't been around as long.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:29 PM
Aug 2017

He's already worse on voting rights
He's a total traitor to Russia
He's antagonized all of our normal allies and kisses up to dictators
He's taking all the steps Hitler did at this point in his regime
He's killing healthcare for spite
Threatened the most unstable leader in the world and tried to bait him into a nuclear war!!!

That's just what he's done already. What's coming?
False flag operation and suspension of constitution?
Nuclear war (Drumpf is partners in a nuclear development firm and could personally profit from this)?
A grand jury finds him, Jared, Don Dr., and drumpf guilty of colluding to skew an election with a foreign power, he pardons them and himself all and stays in the WH daring the SCOTUS to do anything about it.

BFEE was totally terrible and the worst ever presidency up to that point, but orange assface takes the cake as worst president ever at this point and I'm sure will do everything possible to exceed even these horrible things in the future.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
28. Well yeah...in the sense that at this point in his first term,
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:52 PM
Aug 2017

W hadn't had time to do that much harm as yet. He was still largely seen as the Comic-Relief-In-Chief at that point.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
30. It's sort of six of one, but
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 03:21 PM
Aug 2017

yeah, that's how I see it too. Bush/Cheney were War Incorporated, the team from KBR, and Trump is a jerk from NJ who builds hotels and shows a talent for survival that few would have predicted. Kicking Comey to the curb is not something Shrub would have done. B/C were itching to rain bombs and burn villages, knew just how to do it, and did. Trump went to an expensive high school but that's about the extent of his military experience. So things COULD turn ugly fast but I think there's reason to hope they won't.

Kaleva

(36,371 posts)
33. It's silly to compare 8 years to 6 months
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 04:04 PM
Aug 2017

IMHO, Trump is on track to be the worst president in living memory or maybe in our nation's history.

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