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Reflections on President* Trump's latest comments about North Korea.
By Charles P. Pierce
Aug 8, 2017
LINCOLN, NEBRASKASince I am presently located in proximity to god alone knows how many nuclear missiles, I am forced to take very seriously the latest evidence that the president* of the United States has left whatever hinges he ever had far, far behind.
This is flat fcking crazy. From ABC News:
They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. - Trump on North Korea threats https://t.co/ZhcnVU4zVQ pic.twitter.com/03xLnOihwl
Colin Jones (@colinjones) August 8, 2017
This is the way Saddam Hussein used to talk, or the way some 12-year old gamer crows after reaching Level 900 of Nuclear Zombies In Heat. To hear the president* of the United States spout off like this has the potential to have half the world hiding in the basement. For me, I'm going to walk carefully around here for a couple of days. You can never tell what might pop out of the ground.
We will be lucky to live through this.
BigmanPigman
(51,648 posts)They visually resemble what the two leaders obviously lack, anatomically speaking. Is it possible that two adult immature, crazy men can suffer from penis envy?
volstork
(5,403 posts)I would say it is guaranteed. Most likely neither one of them can even SEE theirs beyond their bellies...
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)alterfurz
(2,475 posts)Ilsa
(61,709 posts)I'm dying laughing cuz I love it and I'm going to steal it.
murielm99
(30,779 posts)"Sometimes vulgar is the only answer. There is nothing more vulgar than threatening to kill the entire human race. Seriously.
Ilsa
(61,709 posts)of this vulagarity we will have to endure.
Ilsa
(61,709 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)ARE WAYYYYYY TOO BIG!
At least in proportion to the rest of their adipose bodies.
Those are two of the most horrible, unloved, unwanted beings on the planet.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)`They worked together and changed the procedure, he is many people removed from making things go boom.
I read about it, it was one of those stories that got buried under whatever hell outrage he created at the time.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)It's possible but it would be foolish despite this clown in the white house. When nukes are launched supposedly there is something like 6 minutes to react. You can't be trying to run people down in those six minutes.
lark
(23,182 posts)One of drumpf's generals was on and he said the process is designed to move with lightening speed and if Drumpf pushes that button, the nukes will go, there's no one reviewing his orders, they just implement them.
former9thward
(32,114 posts)Whatever you read it wasn't that.
spike jones
(1,691 posts)they put a penny under the button so it will not go down all the way.
CrispyQ
(36,547 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)Their plan is to use war as the 2nd resort once "sanctions" appear to fail. That will probably happen and we probably will go to war. It could go nuclear.
The real seriousness of the situation globally (assuming you don't live on the Korean peninsula where it will be plenty serious) is the question of how China will react. That will be critical.
How sane are the Chinese leaders? i know more sane than the Orange Clown, that's a given, but all and all how solid are they?
Hekate
(90,936 posts)Lawrence Wilkerson also points out the Kim dynasty has been and is sane. Their goals and worldview are not ours.
The only insane leader in this whole equation is Donald Trump. Lucky us.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)is no more sane than trump or Kim, or putin, or most republicans. and.. perhaps most/many human beings.
It is just a matter of degree.
One of the ways RUMI used the term "insane" referred to being totally and fully in love... with God....which demands conscious awareness.
This meaning of insane is just the opposite, lack of self-awareness, lack of any consciousness. Sleep.
That is my view.
Cosmocat
(14,579 posts)Not slamming you, but this is the simple ass shit that should have been on the assholes minds in November who 1) voted shit gibbon 2) didn't vote Hillary.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)It would still be irrational for China escalate the situation if the US attacks. They might, I just don't know. I would argue that they are culturally closer to North Korea than we are to Mexico. A better analogy might be the China attacking Canada. How would the US react? Mutual defense treaties aside, I would recommend sober caution rather than bellicose military action.
Again, I'm not giving an opinion. I am very much against this aggressive posturing. I'm trying to game out in my mind what would really happen but my opinion remains unwavering. Trump's statements yesterday were dangerous and reckless.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)I wouldn't put it past them.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)He's referring to a threat as in a missile hitting US soil.
Because honestly, if that happens, all bets are off.
Brainstormy
(2,381 posts)trying to out-macho each other. Makes me ill.
ffr
(22,676 posts)Someone break the glass and pull the handle before 4 billion people lose their lives almost instantly.
mcar
(42,426 posts)wiggs
(7,820 posts)bora13
(860 posts)their church all the back-tithes they owe because they believe
that their long awaited second-coming is coming.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)Sen. John McCain said Tuesday that President Trump should not threaten North Korea with "fire and fury" unless he is prepared to carry out those threats.
"The great leaders I've seen don't threaten unless they're ready to act, and I'm not sure President Trump is ready to act," McCain told the Arizona radio station KTAR. "I take exception to the president's comments because you got to be sure you can do what you say you're going to do."
wiggs
(7,820 posts)a reasoned strategy that's not insane or incompetent or that creates worse unintended consequences. McCain just wants action and it sounds like he's goading the WH.
The point that congresspeople should be making over and over screaming at the tops of their lungs is that they/we have no faith that the WH has its act together enough to juggle the thousand moving parts involved in a world crisis in order to come up with the best path forward. Congress allowing the WH to bumble through an international incident with millions of lives at stake is not OK...is my point.
CrispyQ
(36,547 posts)snip...
"President Trump has basically drawn a red line saying he'll never allow North Korea to have an ICBM missile that can hit America with a nuclear weapon on top, he's not going to let that happen, he's not going to contain the threat, he's going to stop the threat," Graham told "CBS This Morning" on Thursday.
Speaking from Clemson, South Carolina, the Republican said two scenarios in which the U.S. would act with force would be if "they attack Guam or some other American interest or our allies, or if they try to keep developing an ICBM."
He added that he feels the U.S. will head toward war with the North "unless the world can stop North Korea", saying Mr. Trump will "pick homeland defense over regional stability and he has to."
Cosmocat
(14,579 posts)(Graham).
Get a map and look what country sits on the northern border of NK.
As yourself what the US would do if Russia started shit with Mexico?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,060 posts)Three in a row from the first 20 I looked at:
8 posted on 2017-08-08, 5:00:25 PM by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")
9 posted on 2017-08-08, 5:00:28 PM by TroutGuy
The only proper response is nuclear................
10 posted on 2017-08-08, 5:00:41 PM by Red Badger
LisaM
(27,848 posts)They somehow can't see the possibility of the third option - both them AND us?
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Or have kids that have to go fight
nolabear
(42,001 posts)How on earth did we get to this?
Hekate
(90,936 posts)TeamPooka
(24,279 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)in politics, national and international affairs, election victory, chocolate cake is the GREATEST that the world has ever seen...as long as it involves Trump in ANY way.
Kleveland
(1,257 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)I can't imagine the level of fear they must be going though, sandwiched between two madmen.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)MuseRider
(34,136 posts)of being yanked around by this guy. I do not think any of us deserve this constant state of agitation and now maybe fear? Who knows? What will we wake up to? This has to stop. Please get this president under control.
Ilsa
(61,709 posts)He's 71. He won't change his ways. He needs to be removed from office. Now. However they can make it happen. Hell, offer him $5 million to resign. It'll be worth it.
Yeah, I hear you. Every day we all suffer from heightened stress hormones because of this son of a bitch. I bet cancer rates go sky high, along with neurological disorders because of him jerking us around.
japple
(9,847 posts)tape his mouth shut!
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Historic NY
(37,457 posts)Note: the service won't take the poorly educated either.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)To be invoked immediately to remove the Madman from office. Trump is totally batshit crazy and needs to go NOW!!!
yuiyoshida
(41,868 posts)Cnn HAS A reporter in Honolulu talking about North Korea striking Hawaii and it would take 20 minutes after launch before a strike.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)spike jones
(1,691 posts)that worked so well last time....no wait a minute...
CrispyQ
(36,547 posts)Even though the Con & the GOP both act outside the law. Even though the Con is the biggest threat to our national security right now. If the Con starts a war, lots of people who currently oppose him, including a big share of the media, will line up behind him, waving their flags. A ton of citizens love when the US stomps around the planet showing everyone how tough we (think we) are.
no_hypocrisy
(46,253 posts)when he started with that BS of "fury", "fire", "power", and "the likes of which the world has never seen".
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)We survived the "shock and awe" of the last Republican presidents' misadventures. This is worse, far worse. Peace be with you
snort
(2,334 posts)bdamomma
(63,941 posts)of this country, in Europe or other countries his ass would have been long gone.