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Claude Taylor: Hey folks-it looks like I fell for a hoax. A phony story. Mea Culpa. (Original Post) .99center Aug 2017 OP
It figures. Claude Taylor and pal Louise Mensch don't bother The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #1
Claude admited he got punked after Naveed Tweeted the proof. .99center Aug 2017 #2
And a lot of people on DU fall for it too. n/t progressoid Aug 2017 #8
All Claude Tayor pushes are hoaxes. Foamfollower Aug 2017 #3
This is what happens when you believe anyone and everyone with no vetting. herding cats Aug 2017 #4
Often though DU is ahead of news cycles Generic Other Aug 2017 #5
Some things can tend to be obvious herding cats Aug 2017 #6
I hear that Mensche, Taylor and Palmer are not to be trusted on DU Generic Other Aug 2017 #7
Claude Taylor could still be right on this, what if it is reverse catfish? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #10
Taylor obviously got suckered into that, which is bad. However, pnwmom Aug 2017 #9
Claude is a good and sincere man. nocalflea Aug 2017 #14
But a terrible journalist -nt Bradical79 Aug 2017 #18
Surprise ! Surprise ! nocalflea Aug 2017 #22
People should read and do a little research. rockfordfile Aug 2017 #11
Naveed Jamali and his towering integrity on full display. nocalflea Aug 2017 #12
I suspected as much about Claude/Mensch "sources" Ezior Aug 2017 #13
Robert Mueller abides. That is all ye know, and all ye need to know. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #15
The Dude Achilleaze Aug 2017 #16
Yeah, it'll happen when it happens -nt Bradical79 Aug 2017 #19
Oh! You don't say....... Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2017 #17
Claude's story is still up, just the subpoena post was doxxing by some asshole. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #20
#TGISchneiderday is still on then? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #25
Long list of family, long list of possible charges, pick a combo. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #26
Louise Mensch is saying that people (Team Deza?) are catfishing Claude Taylor Not Ruth Aug 2017 #27
The first 3 tweets appear to be gone Not Ruth Aug 2017 #28
The first 3 tweets are gone now Not Ruth Aug 2017 #29
Lol... what a fool! n/t demmiblue Aug 2017 #21
Hmmm, someone tried to feed false info to Rachel Maddow, too gratuitous Aug 2017 #23
To me, the most remarkable thing about this 6000eliot Aug 2017 #24

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,927 posts)
1. It figures. Claude Taylor and pal Louise Mensch don't bother
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:07 AM
Aug 2017

to confirm their information before blasting it all over the Intertubes. I'm glad he admitted he was punked, but it probably wasn't the first time and won't be the last. Somebody who really wanted to get a legitimate story out to the public isn't going to take it to some obscure blogger.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
4. This is what happens when you believe anyone and everyone with no vetting.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:32 AM
Aug 2017

You get played like a cheap violin by an amateur.

Expect to see more of this in the future. Some people are pretending to know things which are honestly above their pay grade. They may do it for different reasons (popularity, financial gain or even to add credence to "fake" Trump news being a thing).

Trust only the most pristine of sources right now. Ones who know they are subject to deceptions and take appropriate safeguards.

People like Taylor, they're little more than tools for devious people trying to invalidate real news. They may feel good, but they're best ignored.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
5. Often though DU is ahead of news cycles
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:44 AM
Aug 2017

I am not saying you are incorrect, but some of the early rumors pan out. Could be based on hunches. Could be based on sources held close to the vest. I make up my own mind either way.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
6. Some things can tend to be obvious
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:01 AM
Aug 2017

Others can be twisted around after the fact to appear to validate a hunch. I've witnessed plenty of logic Twister to this end in my lifetime.

I'm not meaning to sound condescending, and I sincerely apologize if I did. My intention was just to express the need to exercise caution so as not to lend credence to fake news rumors and/or charlatans.

My only defense is, we're living in scary times and I'm becoming a bit of a worry wart.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
7. I hear that Mensche, Taylor and Palmer are not to be trusted on DU
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:54 AM
Aug 2017

But they are sometimes ultimately right. Possibly good guesswork on their part.

I admit it is easier dealing with the flat out liars like Kellyanne Conway, Sarah Huckabee or Don Jr. At least they leave no doubts.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
10. Claude Taylor could still be right on this, what if it is reverse catfish?
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:41 AM
Aug 2017

It is against the odds, but still possible. We shall see Saturday.

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
9. Taylor obviously got suckered into that, which is bad. However,
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:52 AM
Aug 2017

I don't think he is trying to demoralize Trump opponents.

The skeptics aren't demoralized and neither are the people who follow him.

He is consistently anti-Trump and he refuses to normalize this administration.

rockfordfile

(8,709 posts)
11. People should read and do a little research.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 06:27 AM
Aug 2017

It seems that Claude Taylor didn't do any research and was eager to get something out.

I do think that Naveed Jamali is a sleaze. I would be careful what he has to say.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
12. Naveed Jamali and his towering integrity on full display.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 06:55 AM
Aug 2017

How lucky for him that he was chosen to "out" Taylor. There is more to this story no doubt. I do believe Jamali is too stupid to have pulled this off himself. Twitter intrigue...

Ezior

(505 posts)
13. I suspected as much about Claude/Mensch "sources"
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:04 AM
Aug 2017

Maybe they don't make shit up, but (at least some of) their sources sure do.

Some might be valid sources though. Still, nothing from their Twitter accounts should be taken seriously unless confirmed by reliable sources. You shouldn't even take it with a huge grain of salt.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
16. The Dude
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:33 AM
Aug 2017

is all that stands between American and full-on hate-and-greed-driven, boot-stomping KGOP kristofascism, Inc.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
20. Claude's story is still up, just the subpoena post was doxxing by some asshole.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 09:19 AM
Aug 2017

You present this as if Taylor's story was false. That is not the case.

Joy is warning that Trump opponents be careful, not that people be careful of Trump's opponents.

This is the Taylor story that was attacked by the dirty trick asshole doxxer:

Claude Taylor Source: Grand jury in Trump Enterprise Corruption NY RICO case to indict.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029427955

Whose ready for a fun-filled week of anticipation and Trump Twitter Tantrums?














L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
26. Long list of family, long list of possible charges, pick a combo.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:48 PM
Aug 2017

Russia, money laundering, real estate, these involve the whole damn family.






 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
29. The first 3 tweets are gone now
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 06:51 AM
Aug 2017

I think that this is a copy of one. Does that mean no more #TGISchneiderDay ?


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. Hmmm, someone tried to feed false info to Rachel Maddow, too
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:11 PM
Aug 2017

But she caught them, somehow, and warned others:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/maddow-to-news-orgs-heads-up-for-hoaxes-985491523709

Rachel probably has super powers, though, so it's not surprising that ordinary mortals would get duped.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
24. To me, the most remarkable thing about this
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:27 PM
Aug 2017

is the fact that the most outlandish things are completely believable when it comes to Trump. I don't know if he ran a sex trafficking ring, but I don't think it's completely beyond the realm of possibility that he did. The question is what a monster like him wouldn't stoop to do.

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