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turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:32 PM Aug 2017

If anyone is interested in this and wants to comment on

this article, which I believe that it should be posted for our awareness on Fake News.

I just wish that my tv, phone and my computer can or could warn me that it is fake or real with a watermark just like that are on payroll checks, I hope no one is offended


https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/26/fake-news-obama-video-trump-face2face-doctored-content








In an age of Photoshop, filters and social media, many of us are used to seeing manipulated pictures – subjects become slimmer and smoother or, in the case of Snapchat, transformed into puppies.

However, there’s a new breed of video and audio manipulation tools, made possible by advances in artificial intelligence and computer graphics, that will allow for the creation of realistic looking footage of public figures appearing to say, well, anything. Trump declaring his proclivity for water sports. Hillary Clinton describing the stolen children she keeps locked in her wine cellar. Tom Cruise finally admitting what we suspected all along … that he’s a Brony.

This is the future of fake news. We’ve long been told not to believe everything we read, but soon we’ll have to question everything we see and hear as well.

For now, there are several research teams working on capturing and synthesizing different visual and and audio elements of human behavior.

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If anyone is interested in this and wants to comment on (Original Post) turbinetree Aug 2017 OP
Trying times ahead Bladewire Aug 2017 #1
This is reason why I posted this to make us all aware and to stay aware turbinetree Aug 2017 #4
Fascinating and scary mia Aug 2017 #2
It is scary and very unnerving when we sit back and really take a hard look at what can and is turbinetree Aug 2017 #5
I was always told..... SergeStorms Aug 2017 #9
That is disconcerting, and certainly capable of fooling many people. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #3
It makes me think that when I post a news story on this site or another site I visit turbinetree Aug 2017 #6
Not just many people ... anybody could be taken in because there would be no way to determine hedda_foil Aug 2017 #12
Its like when you and I were growing up watching cartoons turbinetree Aug 2017 #18
Horrifying. I saw this maybe a week or two ago and bluepen Aug 2017 #7
We the public have to become more diligent and demand some from "reliable " sources turbinetree Aug 2017 #19
No. That would be like state media. bluepen Aug 2017 #24
Very True................... turbinetree Aug 2017 #25
This is highly disturbing Heartstrings Aug 2017 #8
Wado-------------Thank you turbinetree Aug 2017 #17
Wow. Fake news will blend into real news imperceptibly in a few years. Kablooie Aug 2017 #10
From this moment on, all news is fake news, until proven otherwise. n/t Binkie The Clown Aug 2017 #11
I agree whole heartily, will our sources step in and say something to let us know what they are going turbinetree Aug 2017 #20
Yes I heard about this. Will the defense of it fall under free speech? I suppose so lunasun Aug 2017 #13
Then we know who the fake is and in my view they should not be able to operate turbinetree Aug 2017 #21
I'm certain of one thing. mwooldri Aug 2017 #14
You are correct in your thoughts on this matter, that why this is so scary turbinetree Aug 2017 #22
k&R burrowowl Aug 2017 #15
Thanks. I've gotten where I don't trust a lot of stuff from supposed news sources. Unfortunately, Hoyt Aug 2017 #16
Your welcome turbinetree Aug 2017 #23
 

Bladewire

(381 posts)
1. Trying times ahead
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:50 PM
Aug 2017

If you only knew how we're being technologically manipulated already.

Hint: some phone apps, and phone operating systems, send data back telling the vendor everytime you pick up your phone, when you put it down, the first thing you do in the morning, the last site you visit at night, how long you spend talking on the phone, the other apps you have installed,, etc.

mia

(8,363 posts)
2. Fascinating and scary
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:53 PM
Aug 2017
Beyond fake news there are many other implications, said Nitesh Saxena, associate professor and research director of the University of Alabama at Birmingham’s department of computer science. “You could leave fake voice messages posing as someone’s mum. Or defame someone and post the audio samples online.”

These morphing technologies aren’t yet perfect. The facial expressions in the videos can seem a little distorted or unnatural and the voices can sound a little robotic.

But given time, they will be able to faithfully recreate the sound or appearance of a person – to the point where it might be very difficult for humans to detect the fraud....

“We already see it doesn’t even take doctored audio or video to make people believe something that isn’t true,” added Jenkins. “This has the potential to make it worse.”

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
5. It is scary and very unnerving when we sit back and really take a hard look at what can and is
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 11:07 PM
Aug 2017

happening


SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
9. I was always told.....
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:17 AM
Aug 2017

to believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see. It might be time to reassess the percentages of that old axiom.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
6. It makes me think that when I post a news story on this site or another site I visit
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 11:10 PM
Aug 2017

to make people aware that I have to be held reliable and to a higher standard of trust



hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
12. Not just many people ... anybody could be taken in because there would be no way to determine
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:40 AM
Aug 2017

Which words are real and which are computer generated.

bluepen

(620 posts)
7. Horrifying. I saw this maybe a week or two ago and
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 11:12 PM
Aug 2017

meant to share it with friends but forgot. Thank you for posting it and reminding me.

Those who scream "fake news!" are probably the most prolific producers of it, in my opinion. (Just like Trump himself projecting.)

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
19. We the public have to become more diligent and demand some from "reliable " sources
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:51 AM
Aug 2017

some kind of watermark, just like on our currency, sure it can be counterfeited , but do we need some entity to make sure that it real or fake, because some news organizations or other sites just don't care


turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
17. Wado-------------Thank you
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:45 AM
Aug 2017

I just the media had and would let people know and what they are trying to do, this is really scary

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
10. Wow. Fake news will blend into real news imperceptibly in a few years.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:27 AM
Aug 2017

The protection the press gives a free democracy may soon dissolve away.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
20. I agree whole heartily, will our sources step in and say something to let us know what they are going
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:53 AM
Aug 2017

about this , this is truly alarming

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
13. Yes I heard about this. Will the defense of it fall under free speech? I suppose so
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:48 AM
Aug 2017

This + low info voters =

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
21. Then we know who the fake is and in my view they should not be able to operate
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:55 AM
Aug 2017

I know some may same that you are trampling on a there right, but not propagandists in my opinion

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
14. I'm certain of one thing.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:52 AM
Aug 2017

The moment this technology is used to completely impersonate someone in a nefarious manner, the technology that detects the fakes will certainly be developed at a rate that we will be able to tell the truth from the fiction in a short time. Yes, work on this is already been done but maybe not fast enough.

But then again the evil me thinks that someone should make a video... One that is of a certain Donald Trump in a Moscow hotel. With some women. In a bedroom. I'll let you fill in the blanks.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. Thanks. I've gotten where I don't trust a lot of stuff from supposed news sources. Unfortunately,
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 05:55 AM
Aug 2017

a lot of folks are going to believe what they want to believe.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
23. Your welcome
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 09:02 AM
Aug 2017

And yes they will continue to believe what they want to believe , and that is what is frightening on disregarding objectivity to believe no matter that it may not be true

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