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boston bean

(36,220 posts)
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:16 PM Aug 2017

Jan 21 2017 largest protest Ever. And woman now must subjugate themselves for a party

to potentially pick up some votes.

My oh my there is some mighty fear in this country from all angles watching women exercise their agency.

That power women harnessed is so frightening to those in power they must kick it in the teeth.

But ah hell no! You can kick and we will rise. The kicks are our energy source.

Keep kicking us. It reminds us to fight and kick back.

We are not going backwards. We move forward together!!

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Jan 21 2017 largest protest Ever. And woman now must subjugate themselves for a party (Original Post) boston bean Aug 2017 OP
Dem men owe us their full throated support, not his hand wringing crap. bettyellen Aug 2017 #1
Agreed. We are where the resistance is at. Not their capitulation to rw conservative toxic brew. boston bean Aug 2017 #6
We are not the majority in red leaning districts. DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #8
We are the majority of Dem voters- and vast majority of activists and volunteers. bettyellen Aug 2017 #10
You realize that there are places where Democrats are not in the majority, right? DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #15
I'm talking about what Dems nationally need to keep in mind- women are at the front and we won't bettyellen Aug 2017 #17
There is no such thing as a national race for the House of Representatives DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #18
The DNC is talking about courting anti-choice candidates, and that is wrong. Period. It's a civil bettyellen Aug 2017 #19
If they are candidates that can win in a district where a liberal can't win DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #24
You can do that without the support of more than half the party and see how it works out. bettyellen Aug 2017 #27
She does. I do. Raine1967 Aug 2017 #21
Wish I could rec 1,000 times NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #2
Yeah i know. The resistance is women. Compromising our rights is not resistance. It is capitulation boston bean Aug 2017 #3
No. Just No. Not a discussion. irisblue Aug 2017 #4
I said the same thing basically a few days ago? BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #5
We all subjugate ourselves to the electorate DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #7
And sometimes that appeal takes the form of supporting an incumbent guillaumeb Aug 2017 #9
You might want to rethink that. Raine1967 Aug 2017 #22
The majority of white women in America voted for Trump DefenseLawyer Aug 2017 #25
Again, you might want to rethink that. Raine1967 Aug 2017 #26
We are the Democratic base mcar Aug 2017 #11
Largest protest ever. Came up with and pushed resist. Now, to the back of the bus. nt DoodAbides Aug 2017 #12
It's one of a few issues that, for me, is not negotiable The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #13
In a Women In Politics college course--For the past 40 years, 45% of women voted Republican. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #14
I am so glad I'm not a woman ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #16
Please give it a rest SCantiGOP Aug 2017 #20
?? Please elaborate. Thanks in advance. eom Raine1967 Aug 2017 #23
K&R musette_sf Aug 2017 #28
One in six women who supported Hillary are anti abortion Not Ruth Aug 2017 #29
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. Dem men owe us their full throated support, not his hand wringing crap.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:19 PM
Aug 2017

We are the majority of voters and activists. They better not forget that.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
15. You realize that there are places where Democrats are not in the majority, right?
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:16 PM
Aug 2017

Appealing to "activists" in Nebraska isn't a winning strategy.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. I'm talking about what Dems nationally need to keep in mind- women are at the front and we won't
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:02 PM
Aug 2017

Tolerate going back. No Dem should get backing if they are fighting against our civil rights. Don't give a shot what they fee personally, what they can't do is fight against the freedom of the majority of the party.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
18. There is no such thing as a national race for the House of Representatives
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:17 PM
Aug 2017

I'm the farthest thing from a Blue Dog and I am a strong advocate for moving the party platform to the left, probably much farther left than most on DU. That being said, I don't equate supporting a less than liberal Democrat in a house race where the numbers say he or she can win with abandoning our values as a party. If we have no power we have no power to protect any of our core values; we have no power to set the agenda; we have no power to pass a budget that helps the poor and improves our communities. Our power comes from being the majority party. We have to get a majority, one district at a time. The formula for winning in California is not the same as the formula is Nebraska.

If a member votes to make a Democrat Speaker they can "fight" us on individual issues all the want. The speaker decides what gets a vote and what doesn't.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. The DNC is talking about courting anti-choice candidates, and that is wrong. Period. It's a civil
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:26 PM
Aug 2017

Rights issue. Don't kid yourself it's going to blow over.
This will hurt the party.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
24. If they are candidates that can win in a district where a liberal can't win
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:04 PM
Aug 2017

Of course we "court" those candidates. Otherwise we lose those districts. We want a candidate that can win. The idea that this will change the party platform is nuts. We have to have a comprehensive plan to compete everywhere, not just major cities in blue states.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
2. Wish I could rec 1,000 times
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:20 PM
Aug 2017

I'll never forget the Women's March. It was a true turning point, for us. I remember standing, then walking slowly, on a cold January day. Apparently it meant nothing to many, including many so-called "progressives." Unbelievably, we're supposed to give up our rights for the good of the party.

Oh, right. Some of these same people think protests are useless.

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
5. I said the same thing basically a few days ago?
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:23 PM
Aug 2017

If anyone is stupid enough to mess around with women's rights at that level they are in for a rude awakening. I guess they forget the 70s and what brought us here in the first place. Younger women may get into resisting and politics for the first time and it won't stop with just wearing pink hats and attending a protest or two.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
7. We all subjugate ourselves to the electorate
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:38 PM
Aug 2017

Elections are won by appealing to the majority of voters in each particular district.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. And sometimes that appeal takes the form of supporting an incumbent
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:48 PM
Aug 2017

who will win the district. And sometimes that incumbent holds some positions with which we do not agree.

So do we abstain from voting?

Do we challenge the incumbent and hope for a win with a new candidate?

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
22. You might want to rethink that.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:47 PM
Aug 2017

unless the majority of the voters in your district is men.

if so, I get it.


Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
26. Again, you might want to rethink that.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:12 PM
Aug 2017

I do not give a f*ck about that.


and I sure as hell do not appreciate you mansplaining to me about women.

Women are not a single voting block.




The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
13. It's one of a few issues that, for me, is not negotiable
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:58 PM
Aug 2017

any more than supporting segregation is negotiable. Democrats don't support segregated schools. Democrats do support same-sex marriage and trans people using public bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity. All of these are civil rights issues; nobody dares suggest that it would be OK for the DCCC to fund a candidate who came out in favor of segregation, or against same-sex marriage or gender-identified bathrooms. Why is it OK to support - more importantly, to fund - candidates who don't fully support women's right to control their own bodies?

I appreciate that in some districts a pro-choice position might be a tough sell; people in those districts are going to have to decide for themselves whether they will support an anti-choice Democrat vs. an anti-choice Republican. But that's not the same as the national party funding and supporting such a candidate, contrary to the pro-choice platform that the party has adopted for years.

TheBlackAdder

(28,182 posts)
14. In a Women In Politics college course--For the past 40 years, 45% of women voted Republican.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:15 PM
Aug 2017

.

45% of women voted against the ERA.

A solid and unwavering 45% of women voted for paternalism and for GOP matters for 40 years.

Nothing changes this.


===


Being Pro-Choice DOES NOT IMPACT A THING.

These women who vote paternalistic, and the males in their households, generally vote conservative no matter what a Democrat offers, because they look at the entire party as being Pro-Choice and anti-"Religious Freedom." They follow their church's directives.


Most are doing so because of Orthodox, Fundamentalist, Evangelical, Pentecostal or Charismatic influenced reasoning.

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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
16. I am so glad I'm not a woman
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:22 PM
Aug 2017

I'd be spending most of my time in prison for constantly kicking men in the balls.

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