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kentuck

(111,111 posts)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 12:11 AM Aug 2017

Can you imagine our country without a free press at this time?

Or if we only had a state-run media, such as FOX News?

Can you imagine what information would have been covered up and not exposed to the public?

We should all be very thankful that we have the 1st Amendment. It is still the best idea of our Founders, after all these years.

The truth will set us free. We will never be conquered or enslaved so long as we have a free press.

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Can you imagine our country without a free press at this time? (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2017 OP
Wouldn't be in this mess if we didn't have corporate media. n/t Chevy Aug 2017 #1
Do you think the corporate media colluded with Trump and the Russians? kentuck Aug 2017 #2
Every morning with Joe and Mika when Trump called in 7wo7rees Aug 2017 #3
We can take the good with the bad... kentuck Aug 2017 #7
Corporate media helped dumb down America Chevy Aug 2017 #5
And...they ignored ZERO proof of WMD in Iraq,ignored all intel before than illegal War Bengus81 Aug 2017 #12
How do you know that?? kentuck Aug 2017 #13
Nope buddy,I watched it first hand for months before Bush stared killing civilians in Iraq Bengus81 Aug 2017 #14
But you don't believe all mainstream media is "fake news", right? kentuck Aug 2017 #18
Sinclair coming your way . lunasun Aug 2017 #4
No kidding...and declining approval of the media among Democrats is astonishing Awsi Dooger Aug 2017 #6
I think we were on the brink. There has been a resurrection recently. nt Snotcicles Aug 2017 #8
100% agree, many people don't know how close the US was to the brink, and it's still not out of the OnDoutside Aug 2017 #11
Jeff Flake could come out of this smelling like a rose. nt Snotcicles Aug 2017 #16
Possibly, but he could fall between criticising Trump and backing Repeal, thus being hated by both OnDoutside Aug 2017 #17
We're just lucky madokie Aug 2017 #9
In my experience, too many people misunderstand or outright dont like the 1st Amendment Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #10
It's a free press until the propagandists succeed in labeling the truth #fakenews Mr. Ected Aug 2017 #15
Very true. kentuck Aug 2017 #19

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
2. Do you think the corporate media colluded with Trump and the Russians?
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 12:17 AM
Aug 2017

Or that they made it possible for Trump to collude?

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
7. We can take the good with the bad...
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 06:42 AM
Aug 2017

or we can take neither.

Which would you prefer?

Nobody has said the media is perfect. Far from it, actually.

Would you like it if there was no DU? Or do you not consider DU a part of free speech?

 

Chevy

(1,063 posts)
5. Corporate media helped dumb down America
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 12:35 AM
Aug 2017

for ratings, ignored Trumps lunacy, ignored all other candidates for rallies, NYT covered up Russian investigation and corrupt NYFBI for starters.

Bengus81

(6,937 posts)
12. And...they ignored ZERO proof of WMD in Iraq,ignored all intel before than illegal War
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 08:24 AM
Aug 2017

Of HUGE Iraqi army's and a rebuilt airforce,PIMPED Bush and his "making the case for War" horse shit 24/7 because they knew how they would PROFIT their asses off once the bombs started falling and missles started flying.

Bengus81

(6,937 posts)
14. Nope buddy,I watched it first hand for months before Bush stared killing civilians in Iraq
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 08:35 AM
Aug 2017

What did you see? Hard hitting shows on CNN about Bush and Cheney lying about WMD?

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
18. But you don't believe all mainstream media is "fake news", right?
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 01:43 PM
Aug 2017

We know they lied about WMDs.

But, what I'm saying is that we need the press that exposed it. Where we get our information is a choice. Without a free press, we probably would never have known the truth?

Nobody is trying to excuse the failures of the M$M.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
6. No kidding...and declining approval of the media among Democrats is astonishing
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 01:00 AM
Aug 2017

I saw a poll recently with Republican trust in media declining a massive amount but likewise Democrats dropped something like 17%.

Unbelievable. There's never going to be everything you want. kentuck has the correct big picture outlook, that only the free media allows any type of opportunity to survive someone like Donald Trump, and everyone who will try to follow his lead.

We should have surrogates on every program championing the media and trying to get Democrats to understand that they need to do the same in every poll and every forum or wherever possible. The media is an incredible ally. I am disgusted every day while reading attacks on the media from all sides on political forums of sports sites I frequent. That attitude only feeds Trump and allows fake news to fester along with cynicism toward mainstream sources.

Democrats are inept handicappers and this is merely a current absurd example.

OnDoutside

(19,984 posts)
11. 100% agree, many people don't know how close the US was to the brink, and it's still not out of the
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 08:19 AM
Aug 2017

woods yet. This can only end with proper American patriots within the Republican Party, finding a backbone and standing up to the many evils within their own party. Even though he is full of hypocrisy himself, it's good to hear another Rep actually say something truthful.

OnDoutside

(19,984 posts)
17. Possibly, but he could fall between criticising Trump and backing Repeal, thus being hated by both
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 01:04 PM
Aug 2017

ends of the spectrum. He has a very careful path to thread !!!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. We're just lucky
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 07:01 AM
Aug 2017

that dumbASS tRump pissed the Press off right up front, first rattle out of the box, or we'd be in deep do do right the fuck now.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. In my experience, too many people misunderstand or outright dont like the 1st Amendment
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 07:17 AM
Aug 2017

Forgetting how crucial it is to our liberty.

I wish i could say it was restricted to right-wingers, too, but ive seen "progressives" argue for government censorship of everything from 'blasphemy' to the sports illustrated swimsuit issue.

They forget that it isnt just about protecting the speech you, personally, agree with.

Mr. Ected

(9,675 posts)
15. It's a free press until the propagandists succeed in labeling the truth #fakenews
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 08:37 AM
Aug 2017

And the majority of Americans believe it.

I've seen the effects of brainwashing on some of my friends. It's amazing how delicious bullshit tastes when fed to the masses on a daily basis.

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