Baingate

[grantcart]

Its got legs.

Its got documents.

Its got no easy explanation.

It will lead to increasing pressure for tax return releases.

Big money contributors will start to hold off.

Reporters will start to get traction on more details.

More and more related stories, more tax questions.

And then mysteriously Bush faction Republicans will start to murmur, more leaks from unusual sources.

The party will start to gnash teeth and tear garments.

And the Bush folks will be counting the days until the 2016 convention where Jeb can come in and save a broken party.

Obama will have 4 more years to get things back to normal and then Jeb Bush can run on a more moderate, more Hispanic friendly platform beating the "cut taxes" drum all the way to election day.

Baingate, the Romney debacle made to fit Jeb Bush.

[flamingdem]

1. Yes, but Rove and Co. are concentrating on getting the Senate

We can enjoy this but must keep the eye on the ball -- they'll be dumping money into those races instead.

[renate]

3. good point

I was feeling cheerful about all of this until I read your post. Stupid reality.

[grantcart]

7. Of course but Rove and Co are not going to have independents or low motivated Republicans

jumping to vote for Congress.

We should double down and double up and press the advantage.

[flamingdem]

9. I hope so, but the plan as stated is to flood those states at the end

So they will be attempting to motivate with many millions.

That said, it does look smart to make Mitt so awful that the unmotivated demotivate further

[Coexist]

2. its Baingate, stupid

[grantcart]

12. yep

[GarroHorus]

4. Too late, Romney IS the nominee. There is no altering that fact.

He has over 1400 delegates who have no choice but to vote for him on the first ballot at the convention, and he just needs something north of 1100.

Romney is the nominee. Jeb bet his wad on 2016.

[SDjack]

5. It's not over until fat Rove sings. Then, it's over. n/t

[grantcart]

6. That is the point of the OP

It helps Jeb because whatever the party thinks about Jeb they know that he is vetted and isn't going to get tripped up on something like this.

Its in the Bush's interest that Romney not only lose but lose in way that finishes him off as a candidate forever.

That's the beauty of Baingate, it not only fits in the President's strategy, it also fits well with Jeb's.

For that reason, its not going away.

[DCKit]

8. Four more years of Obama and a more compliant Congress...

and the Republicans won't look so good in 2014, 2016, 2018... either.

We need to take back both Houses.

[Zalatix]

10. Eh, which Baingate?

There are so many gates!

[grantcart]

11. Like Watergate there are so many you have to use an Omnibus term to combine them.

[GreenMask]

13. I'll keep an eye out...

But I'm holding back on proclaiming this from the rooftops. Too many on our side don't understand corporate governance set up by the corporatists. If Bain comes out with some of the right paperwork, we'll look like kooky conspiracy nuts.

[Kingofalldems]

15. How is searching for the truth going to make 'us' look bad?

[GreenMask]

21. Making unsubstantiated claims...

If we make unsubstantiated claims that turn out to be disproven. It's something worth looking into, I agree, but I have a suspicion that this guy wouldn't be running for President if he didn't have all his ducks in a row.

[Kingofalldems]

22. The prez is smart enough to know this

Don't you think Romney should release his tax returns? And why doesn't he?

[grantcart]

16. welcome to DU

At this point the Romney campaign is not denying the facts, callling it a 'quirk in the law'.

This will bring tremendous pressure for more disclosrue, including income taxes, which will show a substantial income from Bain for those years.

People may not understand corporate filings but they will understand getting millions of dollars from a company that you are supposedly no longer involved in.

[uponit7771]

14. People, this is serious...rMoney looks like he lied on SEC and other Filings. His taxes would show

...whether or not he took tax BENEFITS from OPERATIONAL managment at Bain...

For instance, he took mileage for traveling back and forth to Bain buildings or outsourcing firms etc.

rMoneys whole argument to the SEC is it wasn't an operational management of the company it was only prima facial...

You can't be be prima facial OPERATIONAL management if you're getting tax benefits from it.

This is serious....and not a political move should be made...

rMoney had to lie on MULTIPLE federal forms about his time at Bain...

Regards

[Douglas Carpenter]

17. inshallah we are onto something very, very big,,,but we cannot let the msm ignore it - we just can't

[uponit7771]

18. ..right, either rMoney lied on his taxes or to the SEC...either one is bad for prez candidate but

...rMoney wont release taxes now.

This is bad for him

[grantcart]

27. or he lied to both, lol

[Dawgs]

19. I don't think we will ever have another Bush in the Whitehouse.

The tea party isn't going anywhere and Jeb is too moderate.

[Initech]

29. Jeb has pretty clearly stated he's not running - good.

[rufus dog]

20. In honor of VP Joe

Big Fucking Deal!

[grantcart]

24. you know that's what he said when he heard about it too!

[rufus dog]

25. I prefer to think this is what he muttered

"Fucking swine"

[ThisThreadIsSatire]

23. Considering how many homes he has and how many countries are involved...

you might even call it a 'Baingated Community'... ;D

As always, well played Grantcart!

[grantcart]

26. lol

[Initech]

28. Hey this is our swiftboat - turnabout is fair play right?