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BSdetect

(8,999 posts)
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:25 PM Jul 2017

Prediction for Kushner, Manafort etc testimony

Mass amnesia.

Just like Sessions. Who sat there smirking during questioning. He walked away unpunished.

They refuse to give up papers

Refuse to disclose info re the second meeting with Putin.

Its one huge joke.

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Prediction for Kushner, Manafort etc testimony (Original Post) BSdetect Jul 2017 OP
That won't fly with Mueller's team though. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #1
Uh, oh PJMcK Jul 2017 #3
Much of 'Fitzmas' was based on fantasy of a newbie 'reporter'. Mueller's team isn't fictional. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #5
Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation wasn't fictional, either PJMcK Jul 2017 #11
Please do not twist my words. The investigation was real, the reporter's stuff about Rove getting emulatorloo Jul 2017 #12
Thanks for your clarification PJMcK Jul 2017 #17
Dunno, in spite of our diversity we seem to be on the same page re Jason Leopold. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #19
Dunno, in spite of our diversity we seem to be on the same page re Trump PJMcK Jul 2017 #21
... emulatorloo Jul 2017 #22
I believe emulatorloo is referring to reporter Jason Leopold of truthout. Qutzupalotl Jul 2017 #15
Yeah, I remember that PJMcK Jul 2017 #18
Thanks I could not remember his name! emulatorloo Jul 2017 #20
I'd love to see Franken and or Harris ask them questions... bettyellen Jul 2017 #9
Post here has names of who will be there. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #10
Wooooo hoooooo! Yes! bettyellen Jul 2017 #24
Sadly, you are correct. However, Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #2
manafort will be smart enough to obfuscate drray23 Jul 2017 #4
Djt Jr's attorney will be right there beside him and shut him up to guard against incrimination or perjury magicarpet Jul 2017 #14
I hope someone goes all "5th Amendment-y" and clams up NightWatcher Jul 2017 #6
There's always the "Frankie 'Five Angels' Pentangeli Defense": WinkyDink Jul 2017 #7
Malcolm Nance says Sedona Jul 2017 #8
Slam, bang, boom magicarpet Jul 2017 #16
Mushmouth Manafort will be inaudible. sarcasmo Jul 2017 #13
Kamala Harris will ask tough questions again and be told to shut up marylandblue Jul 2017 #23

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
11. Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation wasn't fictional, either
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:51 PM
Jul 2017

The investigation into the Valerie Plane Affair was a deeply serious event. Evidence seemed to suggest that the Vice President and a close aide to the President had exposed an undercover US CIA agent. For months, there was hopeful speculation that Mr. Fitzgerald would bring multiple indictments. Ultimately, it was mostly what I've lately heard called a "nothing burger."

Your reference to a "newbie reporter" is confusing to me. The most prominent reporter involved in the story was Judith Miller of The New York Times. She was not a "newbie." In fact, she was imprisoned for contempt of court because she wouldn't reveal the source of her stories. Ultimately, I. Lewis Libby, an aide to VP Cheney, came forward and admitted that he was Ms. Miller's source.

Regardless, her veracity is questionable:

"In April 2015, Judith Miller published an autobiography in which she, according to the Daily Caller, "now concluded, after reviewing old notes, that her testimony about her conversations with Libby that led to his conviction may have been false ... Had I misconstrued my notes? Had Fitzgerald's questions about whether my use of the word Bureau meant the FBI steered me in the wrong direction?" (from Wikipedia)

However, Mr. Fitzgerald's investigation did net a prize:

"As special counsel for the U.S. Department of Justice Office of Special Counsel, Fitzgerald was the federal prosecutor in charge of the investigation of the Valerie Plame Affair, which led to the prosecution and conviction in 2007 of Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby for perjury." (also from Wikipedia)

Please explain your comment. Thanks, in advance.

emulatorloo

(44,180 posts)
12. Please do not twist my words. The investigation was real, the reporter's stuff about Rove getting
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:57 PM
Jul 2017

indicted turned out to be completely false.

When we talk about "Fitzmas" here, we are generally speaking about how Rove was alleged going to be indicted any day now per that newbie reporter.

The investigation was real, serious, and Libby stood trial.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
17. Thanks for your clarification
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:22 PM
Jul 2017

I appreciate your explanation.

One point, however. During the Plame investigation, it wasn't just Karl Rove who was in the gunsights of Mr. Fitzgerald. Ultimately many of us on DU were hoping that VP Cheney would be in those targets. Ultimately, we were all disappointed.

Respectfully, please reconsider your comment, "When we talk about "Fitzmas" here..." The strength of this board has always been in its diversity: we don't all think alike!

Enjoy your evening, emulatorloo.

emulatorloo

(44,180 posts)
19. Dunno, in spite of our diversity we seem to be on the same page re Jason Leopold.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:24 PM
Jul 2017

You have a great night too

Qutzupalotl

(14,327 posts)
15. I believe emulatorloo is referring to reporter Jason Leopold of truthout.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:03 PM
Jul 2017

His sources included Joe Wilson.

Rove was implicated, but his lawyer signaled he would use a selective amnesia defense. You can't catch someone in a lie if they never say anything. So Rove managed to slip out of a likely indictment, but just barely.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. I'd love to see Franken and or Harris ask them questions...
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:42 PM
Jul 2017

Haven't they let GOP guests in before?

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
2. Sadly, you are correct. However,
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:30 PM
Jul 2017

The may say enough to let Robert Mueller know they are lying through their teeth!

drray23

(7,637 posts)
4. manafort will be smart enough to obfuscate
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:31 PM
Jul 2017

Don Jr is dumb as a bed post and will end up perjuring himself.

magicarpet

(14,167 posts)
14. Djt Jr's attorney will be right there beside him and shut him up to guard against incrimination or perjury
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:00 PM
Jul 2017
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
7. There's always the "Frankie 'Five Angels' Pentangeli Defense":
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:37 PM
Jul 2017

“I . . . I . . . I never know no godfather. I have my own family, Senator,” Pentangeli then testified, insisting that he had made everything up to authorities about Corleone because the FBI offered him a deal and he told them what they wanted to hear.

“Were you at any time a member of a crime organization headed by Michael Corleone?” asked another senator.

“I don’t know nothin’ about that,” answered Pentangeli, a k a “Frankie Five Angels.” “Oh! I was in the olive oil business with his father, but that was a long time ago. That’s all.”


Sedona

(3,769 posts)
8. Malcolm Nance says
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:40 PM
Jul 2017

If they dont cooperate with Mueller within 60-90 days, look for the FBI to raid their offices and walk out with computers and docs.

(Wouldnt it be fun to watch that happen in the West Wing and Dump Tower?)

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