Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

jdadd

(1,314 posts)
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:05 PM Jul 2017

An Open Letter to Rev. Franklin Graham from a Small Church Pastor

Dear Frank

Can I call you Frank? This is just pastor to pastor. Feel free to call me Peter. Anyway, I have to say I was flattered when I learned that your Decision America Tour took a detour off the beaten path to call upon us “small community churches.” We are nothing if not small. We seat 30-40 on a good Sunday. And we are a century old fixture of our small community. Most often we are overlooked and overshadowed by mega-churches and politically influential religious voices like your own. We don’t hold a candle to an auditorium filled with the music of a one hundred voice choir led by professional musicians. We probably will never be recognized in any nationally syndicated media. After all, we don’t do anything really “newsworthy.” We just preach the good news of Jesus Christ; love one another the best we can (which sometimes isn’t very well); feed the hungry that come to our doors; care for the sick; comfort the dying; and bury the dead. So thanks for thinking of us. Rest assured, we are ready to respond to your calls to prayer and action.

I have to say, though, that I was a little confused by your summons. Of all the things that worry me, loss of religious freedom for Christians in America isn’t one of them. I can’t say I have ever experienced anything in this country that could reasonably be called a restriction on my religious liberty, much less persecution. When you started talking about attacks on Christianity, I thought you might have been referring to the racially motivated slaying of pastors and lay people at Mother Emmanuel church in Charleston some time back. Or I figured you were referring to the slaughter of Coptic Christians in Egypt this past Palm Sunday. That’s what I call persecution. But having to pay a judgment for refusing to bake a cake for a same sex couple in violation of the law against discrimination? This you call persecution? There’s a letter in the Bible, written by the Apostle Peter (ever heard of him?). He’s an expert on persecution, having been on the receiving end of it more than once. He says you don’t get divine kudos from suffering the consequences of breaking the law-even if you are a Christian. Moreover, there is a Christian fellow named Paul (aka Saul) who wrote a letter to a church in Rome nearly two thousand years ago. He said that if your enemy is hungry you should feed him (that’s in the Bible too). So wouldn’t it have been the Christian way to have baked a cake for the same sex couple in your example, even if you deem them enemies (another assertion I don’t quite understand)? I’m confused.
:snip:

https://revolsen.com/2017/05/17/an-open-letter-to-rev-franklin-graham-from-a-small-church-pastor/

15 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
An Open Letter to Rev. Franklin Graham from a Small Church Pastor (Original Post) jdadd Jul 2017 OP
'Moreover, there is a Christian fellow named Paul (aka Saul) who wrote a letter to a church in Rome elleng Jul 2017 #1
I just fell in love with this man. Doreen Jul 2017 #2
Apparently he is a Lutheran minister left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #6
Dang, he's married. Doreen Jul 2017 #8
There's more people......... MyOwnPeace Jul 2017 #3
Franklin Graham is but one of many who practice CBR (Cash Based Religion). keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #4
Wonderful letter mgardener Jul 2017 #5
Great letter. Franklin Graham Ilsa Jul 2017 #7
All of those so called Chritiabs compalining about their religious freedom being violated these days onecaliberal Jul 2017 #9
K & R +1000 Stonepounder Jul 2017 #10
this pastor is a true christian. :) AllaN01Bear Jul 2017 #11
PASTOR PETER, I love your letter and I'd love to attend your church. trueblue2007 Jul 2017 #12
Franklin Graham is anything but a Christian. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #13
ANY PASTOR who could align himself/herself with tRump*... Raster Jul 2017 #14
Loved this part! liberaltrucker Jul 2017 #15

elleng

(130,740 posts)
1. 'Moreover, there is a Christian fellow named Paul (aka Saul) who wrote a letter to a church in Rome
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jul 2017

nearly two thousand years ago. He said that if your enemy is hungry you should feed him (that’s in the Bible too). So wouldn’t it have been the Christian way to have baked a cake for the same sex couple in your example, even if you deem them enemies (another assertion I don’t quite understand)? I’m confused.'

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
2. I just fell in love with this man.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:27 PM
Jul 2017

Is he in a denomination that allows marriage? OK, all kidding aside, He is a TRUE Christian. He says the same things my sister in law would say and she is a Lutheran pastor. He speaks only the truth of the Christian God. This by the way is coming from a Buddhist.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
8. Dang, he's married.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:33 PM
Jul 2017

Of course I am just kidding. Well, most Lutherans I have known in my life feel the same way he does. I also went to an Episcopal church ( God mother was an Episcopalian pastor ) and most of them felt the same way.

keithbvadu2

(36,667 posts)
4. Franklin Graham is but one of many who practice CBR (Cash Based Religion).
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 09:32 PM
Jul 2017

Franklin Graham is but one of many who practice CBR (Cash Based Religion).

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
7. Great letter. Franklin Graham
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jul 2017

inherited this business. And that's what it is now, a business.

His father had some bigotry in his heart, as he expressed to Nixon.

And Anne Graham Lotz, a sister to Franklin, is a money christian as well. I think she was a prosperity gospel christian and promoted false doctrine about the 9-11 terrorist attack.

Screw them. False prophets.

onecaliberal

(32,780 posts)
9. All of those so called Chritiabs compalining about their religious freedom being violated these days
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:43 PM
Jul 2017

should be made to read it.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
10. K & R +1000
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:50 PM
Jul 2017

A beautifully written letter that touches the core of ethos Christian and pointing out how the judgemental Evangelicals who seem to have completely forgotten what Jesus taught.

trueblue2007

(17,194 posts)
12. PASTOR PETER, I love your letter and I'd love to attend your church.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:27 PM
Jul 2017

i found this awhile ago and posted it on my facebook wall.


PASTOR PETER, I love your letter and I'd love to attend your church. You are a wonderful minister. Franklin Graham has me very confused and frustrated because I don't see his words coming from God.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
14. ANY PASTOR who could align himself/herself with tRump*...
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 01:29 PM
Jul 2017

...is NOT a man of God. Period. tRump* is the most non-Christian, un-Christ-like person to ever inhabit 1600 Pennsylvania.

Further, when moral fraud Pat Robertson said he had a vision and saw tRump* sitting at the right hand of God... dementia is a terrible thing.

liberaltrucker

(9,129 posts)
15. Loved this part!
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:26 PM
Jul 2017

"We small church pastors have to rely on the Bible for our intel. I got this stuff from the Gospel of Matthew, 25th Chapter to be precise. As I said, that, too, is in the Bible. (It’s a great book, Frank. You should read it sometime.)"

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»An Open Letter to Rev. Fr...