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stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 06:28 PM Jul 2017

"If you get sick,old, have a family this bill will harm you"*Best kept secret: It harms everybody

* per Obama

The MSM and most Democratic spokespeople fail to mention the most basic fact about the Republican Death Bill: It robs everybody
of the right to humane health insurance and security.

Their bill ends ACA's Employer Mandate, which ACA enforced by fines for non compliance for those with over 50 employees.

It also explodes the requirement for insurance policies to cover basic needs (like prescription, hospitalization, tests, well..pretty much any medical necessity can be eliminated.)

The ACA prohibition of annual and life time caps also thrown onto the junk heap, so we're back to the days of bake sales to fight medical cost devastations.

And, of course, the Medicaid slash means that 2/3s of Americans who are or will ever get old & vulnerable will not have Medicare to cover the unaffordable costs for most for homecare or for nursing homes.

Finally the Ryan Republican House passed their bill specifically continuing Obamacare coverage for themselves(!) as they voted Death Care for the rest of Americans. Seriously doubt that this outrageous privilege isn't extended to Senators as well in McConnell's versions.

There are hundreds of millions of Americans who think they are somehow protected from the Republican Death Bill because they now have good coverage through their employer. This is probably the most sweeping and dangerous myth that Repugs are delighted is floating out there; it goes systematically unchallenged by either the MSM and even our best Dem voices don't utilize this most useful, fundamental Framing.

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"If you get sick,old, have a family this bill will harm you"*Best kept secret: It harms everybody (Original Post) stuffmatters Jul 2017 OP
This Employer Mandate carries a lot of weight. Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #1
100% Yes, thank you stuffmatters Jul 2017 #2
To many folks have been lulled into Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #3
SO frustrating that even our best Dem voices on Teevee aren't driving home the main message: stuffmatters Jul 2017 #4
America will eventually wake up, Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #5
Yep. Why don't our Dems/ MSM automatically say the ACA WAS the Republican Plan stuffmatters Jul 2017 #6
Understand it has to do with Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #7
Totally forgot stuffmatters Jul 2017 #8
seriously, if it *didn't* hurt everybody who needs help most, the GOP wouldn't be for it. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #9
Yep, they've made sadism a proud plank in their platform stuffmatters Jul 2017 #10
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. This Employer Mandate carries a lot of weight.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jul 2017

Can one imagine the Trillions of Dollars Corporate America gets as a gift in supporting the GOP.

Just had this conversation with one of my Trump Voting Kids yesterday. Sure thinks he is covered and his Employer will never switch to a crap insurance Contract. Well,found a comment by his CEO and yes his Company can not wait to implement these new Insurance roll back.

Some people still believe Rich People Create Jobs,wow.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
2. 100% Yes, thank you
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:35 PM
Jul 2017

Corps are salivating, yet Repub employees ...and still many Dems, unfortunately, think they'll be protected by profit driven Daddy
employers once this atrocity hits..

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. To many folks have been lulled into
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:43 PM
Jul 2017

the idea that their Employer will never change their insurance plans. Well,hate to tell them other wise. CEO's will love this POS,Bonus Time.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
4. SO frustrating that even our best Dem voices on Teevee aren't driving home the main message:
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jul 2017

If you are employed you are squarely in danger of losing your insurance too.

I'm so glad you showed your kids the reality of their own Employer reality. even if they didn't believe it, you did your best.

I'm hitting the same brick wall,as always, with my Repub friends and relatives. Reality never penetrates, even for one who served at a posh Country Club... of course tips sucked. Could there be a more in your face life lesson on failure of trickle down? Yet the trust, deification of the wealthy, remained unshakeable and constant the rest of their lives.

 

Wellstone ruled

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5. America will eventually wake up,
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jul 2017

but so much damage will be done. So many Families will be wiped out. This why the ACA was taken off the shelf from the Heritage Foundation and tweaked and put into law.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
6. Yep. Why don't our Dems/ MSM automatically say the ACA WAS the Republican Plan
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 10:23 PM
Jul 2017

when these grudge whiners lock step their false talking point about being "excluded" from ACA

They are going to get this through, I'm sure. And part of the responsibility falls upon the incompetence of Dems to headline with
"everybody is going to loose their insurance security" AND ACA was Koch/Heritage/Romneycare, ACA isThe Republican Plan.

Then maybe close with the bulletin that Ryan's Rep House voted to keep Obamacare for themselves yet throw everyone onto Deathcare, including their own stafffs. And MConnell's Repub Senate will probably grant themselves the same exclusion..This actually proves in real life that ACA is still the insurance of choice of Republicans in power,it's the choice they make for themselves! But because it's got Obama's name on it, they deny it to everyone else.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Understand it has to do with
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 11:09 PM
Jul 2017

certain Sponsors and their Ad buys. Remember,Heritage is the Brain Child of the Koch Family,and from that,more and more so called Non Profit Think Tanks have morphed. And those are for the most part are funded by the same People.

The only Rethug to take Credit for anything dealing with the ACA,was Mitt Romney and that was in at fund raiser by a slip of the tongue . And before the end of the day,Local Fox News Station damn near hung him.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
8. Totally forgot
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:44 AM
Jul 2017


Thanks, I'd totally forgotten Romney's instant blowback from the Repub/Koch Party when he forgot & mentioned Romneycare as an accomplishment. God forbid a Republican should ever do anything for "those people" let alone publicly qvell over it!
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