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Too many times are there threads here on DU that divide us from each other.
Basically it seems there are those who have decided that being in lockstep with whoever is in office and has a D after their name, is beyond reproach and any criticism thereof is akin to wanting to destroy the party.
I'm sorry, but that is a crock. If we feel the need to criticize the president, cabinet members or congress critters then it should be heard; not censured. Discussion should ensue if one feels that the criticism is undue; letting the arguments win or lose on their own accords.
But, like I say, what I have been seeing is that some are working to divide real progressives from the party, leaving only a conservative and pro-elite, pro-those-in-power core to make all the rules and issue edicts.
From what I have been reading the criticisms of the establishment are a sign of progress and hopefulness for a better future. A future that otherwise looks pretty damn bleak the way the country is headed.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Even if they have a (D) after their names and/or are running for office.
elleng
(131,293 posts)Will Rogers said, 'I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.'
turtlerescue1
(1,013 posts)Which is both immensely amusing and equally as frustrating.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)What i don't cotton to are those who chastise anyone who desires to see any official held to account. It's as if they are saying they are better Democrats just because they are willing to look the other way when a D follows the name.
When in essence, most crits are angled to make better democrats of us all.
emulatorloo
(44,261 posts)Are there others I don't know about?
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Because those are opposites.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I am saying that this is a discussion board and not a jury pool.
We are not here to judge each other, but to judge the quality of our representatives.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)upi402
(16,854 posts)The division was done TO us by elites who infected this party years ago. It worked. The proof is here. How else could you convince chickens to vote for Col Sanders after they've been burned? Divide & conquer.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)A center right result with the left the center redefined as the far left.
Think about if folks... and good luck.
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)That should not be allowed. Too many Democrats have come to feel they can make deals with the devil and still get the full support of the base. That shouldn't be.
However, there are always two sides, sometimes more, to an issue.
Many who you say are "lockstep with whoever is in office and has a D after their name", aren't. What they are saying is it is an election year, in which we have two choices Obama or Romney or we have the choice between a Democrat or Republican for senate or the house. They are not necessarily overlooking the failures of the Democrat, they realize what the Republican would do. The criticisms which give you hope, give them fear that the divide you speak of will give a win to the Republicans. Republicans which would almost be guaranteed to be much worst than the Democrat.
But, I must say I am slightly confused by your OP in that you start sounding like we need to unite, but then you seem to support division. Almost as if discussion is good if it supports your side but bad if it is for the other. Also, you seem to start with DU and move to the party in general. But, that is just my reading of the OP, I may be misunderstanding something.
This will continue until the Democratic Party sets up a set of restrictions as to who can be and who can't be part of us, similar to what the Republicans have done. You may not agree but currently we allow from the extreme progressive/liberals to the centrist. Setting up restrictions as to who is a Democrat is something I hope we never do. Although our diversity can be our biggest weakness it is also our biggest strength.
I do agree we should be allowed to have open discussions and I have been in many here on DU. I have been accused of being too progressive and too centrist, and even a troll a time or two. But "letting the arguments win or lose on their own accords may not work. We each have our own list of demands (wants) and if our list is not fully fulfilled too many want to "take our ball and go home".
One DUer put it this way, (I would give them credit if I remembered who, but not taking credit myself is the best I can do.)
Republicans want to win.
Democrats want to be right.
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Wonder why that would be?
Don
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)More rolling eyes smilies