Some information that I just found out watching MSNBC

[Maraya1969]

I cannot see the man's name so if someone finds out please let me know and I will edit this:

Anyway, he was talking about a study of voters where they were shown candidates and pieces of information like health care, Social security, food stamps juxtaposed with taxes for the very wealthy and deregulation that favor the big companies and they found that people did not understand that the GOP is on the side of the big companies and removing security nets for the middle class and the poor. Trump voters just thought he would "shake things up" not having the slightest idea that that meant more money for him and his cronies.

These voters, Trump voters, do not realize that they are voting for the wealthiest people in the country and against their own best interests.

That information needs to be explained to all people. People would not vote for a Trump if they knew what we Democrats knew; that he is all for the big companies and not for the average Joe and Jane.

This should be a message that we sell to the masses from now on. The GOP only wins when people believe their lies.

[elleng]

1. Right. Similar info here, people do NOT know who is for what.

A special report on Donald Trumps America

Observers of Donald Trump’s presidency who hope that politics will eventually return to normal will have a long wait, says John Prideaux

http://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21724115-observers-donald-trumps-presidency-who-hope-politics-will-eventually-return

The author was on Charlie Rose last night.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016188162

[Maraya1969]

2. Our next elections need to make these things clear! And also make clear that

politicians who are war hawks and support the death penalty are not pro-life. They are pro-death.


We need a change in our framing.

[elleng]

4. We need a change in our framing SERIOUSLY.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. Many voters don't know what the parties stand for. All they know is what they are told by friends

and fox news.

[tblue37]

5. Tribalism. They vote R because their friends and family have always voted R. nt

[TexasBushwhacker]

6. Yes. You may get them to turn their back on Trump

But you will NEVER get them to admit that Clinton would have been better. All they will say is that they either should have thrown away their vote on Johnson or stayed home.

[Maraya1969]

7. This is about going forward and how we need to frame the different parties.

It has nothing to do with Hillary

[american_ideals]

8. Fox and right wing radio lie to them about liberal elites

Consumers of that propaganda don't realize it's the GOP that has an agenda to screw them. Because the same GOP has an agenda to spread propanganda about liberals and Democrats.

We won't fix the country until we fix propanganda from Fox and right wing radio, and until we persuade the mainstream media to stop repeating GOP lies.