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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:10 AM Jul 2012

George Zimmerman at 'safe house' protected by his security team

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Sunday, July 8, 2012, 6:25 PM

ORLANDO, Fla. — The neighborhood watch leader charged with fatally shooting Trayvon Martin is in a safe house that is being protected by his security team.

George Zimmerman was released Friday after posting bail for the second time on a second-degree murder charge. His attorney said Sunday he was in Seminole County in central Florida.

Some of Martin's supporters have been angry Zimmerman was not arrested until 46 days after the February shooting, and Zimmerman has received death threats.

He was released from jail after his defense fund helped him post 10 percent of the $1 million bond.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-safe-house-protected-security-team-article-1.1110107
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George Zimmerman at 'safe house' protected by his security team (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 OP
Stockpiling guns and Cheetos Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #1
I doubt Meiko Jul 2012 #19
He can't buy or even posess a firearm slackmaster Jul 2012 #22
Zimmerman is a liar, thug, and murderer. Initech Jul 2012 #2
That is so dumb in so many ways permatex Jul 2012 #3
Yes, he took his gun. That would be enough for me if on jury. Hoyt Jul 2012 #4
More of your usual nonsense. permatex Jul 2012 #5
No. But I do believe those who donated to the murderer are immoral, Hoyt Jul 2012 #7
I hope you Meiko Jul 2012 #18
At least I don't walk out the door with a gun prepared to play judge, jury, Jesus, and executioner Hoyt Jul 2012 #21
Oh C'mon Hoyt Meiko Jul 2012 #27
Do you carry a gun into public? In unlikely event you encounter situation, how much of a "trial" Hoyt Jul 2012 #30
The fact that you know Meiko Jul 2012 #32
And, I'm sure Zimmerman would have said same thing day before killing Hoyt Jul 2012 #33
That would be sufficient and very good reason to boot you off the jury panel, Hoyt slackmaster Jul 2012 #23
"Prejudice" is defending Zimmerman just because he's a gun toter who believes SYG gets you off from Hoyt Jul 2012 #25
This isn't going to be an SYG case. The defense MAY make a pre-trial motion to dismiss... slackmaster Jul 2012 #26
Who is defending Zimmerman Meiko Jul 2012 #28
Another way to look at it is to allow initech some hyperbole because truth2power Jul 2012 #6
As am I permatex Jul 2012 #8
Yeah that's a good way of putting it. Initech Jul 2012 #11
But he did intend to kill Trayvon, therefore a charge of 2nd degree murder is JDPriestly Jul 2012 #13
You forgot coward. Skidmore Jul 2012 #14
C'mon Meiko Jul 2012 #17
is this the same team that provides security to under-age drinking parties? grasswire Jul 2012 #9
Well of course he needs security, he's a millionaire now! Curtland1015 Jul 2012 #10
New money libodem Jul 2012 #12
"His security team?" HIS security team? Number23 Jul 2012 #15
Probably a bunch of loony volunteers lined up to protect this assh*le free of of charge. Curtland1015 Jul 2012 #16
I would bet that the bail bond company provided the "security team" free of charge slackmaster Jul 2012 #24
Maybe DOG Meiko Jul 2012 #31
One look at that wife of his and anybody would run like Hell slackmaster Jul 2012 #34
So much wrong with so much here madokie Jul 2012 #20
How so? Meiko Jul 2012 #29
Yeah, but who's going to protect the public against Zimmerman? MoonRiver Jul 2012 #35

Initech

(100,121 posts)
2. Zimmerman is a liar, thug, and murderer.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:25 AM
Jul 2012

I say charge him with first degree murder - and those that donated to his freedom fund as being accessories to murder.

 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
3. That is so dumb in so many ways
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:32 AM
Jul 2012

Where do you get first degree murder? Charge people who donate as being accessories to murder? Please tell me your kidding?

Nothing suggests he planned to murder Trayvon.

Accessories to murder, where do you get that?
And before you accuse me of being a Zimmerman sympathizer, I'm not, all I'm questioning is the absurdity of your statements.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Yes, he took his gun. That would be enough for me if on jury.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:42 AM
Jul 2012

I wouldn't go for Murder #1 though. Good chance a bigot or two and a couple of gun/SYG types will be on jury.

 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
5. More of your usual nonsense.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:48 AM
Jul 2012

So do you agree that those that donated to his defense fund should be charged with accessory to murder? And if so, why?

I haven't judged him yet until I hear all the evidence come out at trial, unlike others here such as yourself.
He may very well be guilty of 2nd degree murder, I don't know yet and neither do you or anyone else here.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. No. But I do believe those who donated to the murderer are immoral,
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:59 AM
Jul 2012

worthless bastards. Legally, they are fine up-standing right wingers, such as that is. And, I think most decent people knew what the poster meant.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. At least I don't walk out the door with a gun prepared to play judge, jury, Jesus, and executioner
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 08:32 AM
Jul 2012

in a split second.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
27. Oh C'mon Hoyt
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:05 AM
Jul 2012

nobody is doing that, at least nobody I know. Could it be you are exaggerating just a bit?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
30. Do you carry a gun into public? In unlikely event you encounter situation, how much of a "trial"
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jul 2012

will you give before pulling your gun and shooting?

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
32. The fact that you know
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jul 2012

me from the Gungeon you know I have a CCW and carry a gun. I am not sure what you are asking here. Are you asking if I am going to play 20 questions with an attacker? No. My first priority is always to escape and call the cops. If I can't retreat for whatever reason I will defend myself. It is not a matter of passing judgement, it is a matter of self preservation. Is there something specific you want to know.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
25. "Prejudice" is defending Zimmerman just because he's a gun toter who believes SYG gets you off from
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 09:46 AM
Jul 2012

shooting unarmed teenager.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
26. This isn't going to be an SYG case. The defense MAY make a pre-trial motion to dismiss...
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 10:22 AM
Jul 2012

...as common law self-defense based on a preponderance of the evidence, but the concept of "Stand Your Ground" won't be a factor in the defense whether the case goes to trial or not.

Please make a note of this reply, Hoyt. If it turns out that I have not correctly predicted the course of the defense, I expect you to cite this post and gloat over it.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
28. Who is defending Zimmerman
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:26 AM
Jul 2012

This shooting will be dealt with in court as it should be. All the evidence will be presented and the jury will decide. My guess is that if he is acquitted you will cry and stamp your feet, if he is found guilty and the penalty is not severe enough in your opinion you will cry and stamp your feet, oh well at least you will be showing some consistency.

DU just wouldn't be the same without you Hoyt.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
6. Another way to look at it is to allow initech some hyperbole because
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:59 AM
Jul 2012

he's sick to death of Zimmerman's whining about his victimhood. As am I.

It's gone on far too long.

ETA: To your statement about not judging him yet....I'm not on his jury, nor is it possible that I will be, as I don't live in FL. So I'll offer my opinion in the matter, and it's that Zimmerman is a worthless thug and the only victim, here, is Trayvon Martin. YMMV.

Initech

(100,121 posts)
11. Yeah that's a good way of putting it.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:47 AM
Jul 2012

Not to mention there's some hardcore racism at the very core of this whole thing - there's some seriously shady characters who are giving Zimmerman money - they're not the kind of people you want to piss off. If you look at the facts though - it's becoming clear that Zimmerman has a violent history with multiple arrests - it's certainly not pre meditated but it's definitely not second degree murder either.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. But he did intend to kill Trayvon, therefore a charge of 2nd degree murder is
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:35 AM
Jul 2012

appropriate although there may eventually be enough evidence to result in an acquittal for him on that charge.

I would like to see the results of a study about the extent to which race and education correlate to attitudes toward Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin.

If we changed the color of their skins in our minds so that Trayvon Martin was a white victim and Zimmerman an African-American killer, then I suspect that many people who now side with the white Zimmerman would switch and side with the white Trayvon Martin.

I also think that if you switched their racial identifications, then Zimmerman with an African-American would already have been convicted and sentenced or entered into a plea bargain.

I'm not saying what view I have about whether Zimmerman should be able to claim self-defense. I am not familiar enough with the facts to know that, and I don't think that all the facts, especially those concerning the likely credibility of the various witnesses, is public knowledge yet. You can't know whether a person's story is credible until you hear it from that person's own mouth and that person is cross-examined.

But I think race has a great bearing on how you view this case. I also think that whether you have enough education to see past race has a bearing on how you view it.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
17. C'mon
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:17 AM
Jul 2012

I know you are probably upset over this whole mess but we can't just charge people with murder #1 for no reason or charge people for donating to a defense fund.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
9. is this the same team that provides security to under-age drinking parties?
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:45 AM
Jul 2012

The group that previously employed Zimmerman in this illegal activity?

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
16. Probably a bunch of loony volunteers lined up to protect this assh*le free of of charge.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:46 AM
Jul 2012

He's a celebrity to some of those goons.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
24. I would bet that the bail bond company provided the "security team" free of charge
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 08:39 AM
Jul 2012

It has a million dollars on the line.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
29. How so?
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:33 AM
Jul 2012

because of the security you mean? it's really not all that unusual in cases like this. After all Zimmerman has received numerous death threats and there has been some issues of people being sent to find his house, things like that. Let's face it he is not very popular with some people. I'll be glad when it's over and everyone can put their torches and pitchforks away, until the next time that is.

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