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Romney Donor Says Lower Income People Dont Understand Whats Going On
By Judd Legum posted from ThinkProgress Election on Jul 8, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Today, Mitt Romney is holding a series of fundraisers in the Hamptons, culminating with a huge event at the home of billionaire David Koch. The LA Time in on the scene and reporter Maeve Reston caught up with a donor on her way into one of the events.
The woman, who wouldnt reveal her name, said the following:
I dont think the common person is getting it my college kid, the baby sitters, the nails ladies everybody whos got the right to vote they dont understand whats going on. I just think if youre lower income one, youre not as educated, two, they dont understand how it works, they dont understand how the systems work, they dont understand the impact.
The recommended contribution for the event she was attending was $25,000.
MORE:
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/08/512645/romney-donor-says-lower-income-people-dont-understand-whats-going-on/http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-hamptons-fundraiser-20120708,0,4909639.story?track=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=56325
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Now maybe that very nice rich lady who said that the lower orders are too stupid to understand that Obama is hurting them is donating to Romney because while she's doing well, she's truly concerned about the poor and for some reason thinks he'll be better for them. That makes her pathetically dumb herself, but at least her heart would be in the right place. But I'm going to take a wild shot and say that I would guess she's just another self-centered moron who thinks that Obama is ruining everything because he's taxing everyone too much --- especially her.
Begging for pitchforks, I'm telling you.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/our-betters-fretting-in-hamptons.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
sakabatou
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BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)so the mindless lemmings who support the 1% will finally see who's on their side - and it ain't the R'money crowd!
A mixture of horseshit and straw.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)handmade34
(22,759 posts)the "common" people livid... there is something terribly wrong...
time to seriously fight back...
liberal N proud
(60,349 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)There's the good kind of special and the not so positive kind.
handmade34
(22,759 posts)mental illness that causes people not to see others as equal within the human race...
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)Maybe on msnbc
handmade34
(22,759 posts)not really news... but an outward manifestation of how we "common" people realize we are perceived...
class war?? you betcha!
the sadness is that this woman's sentiments are not one of wealth per se... but of small mindedness... and that is an illness that exists within wealthy and poor and middle all alike...
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)so that's a start!
Wonder if CNN will follow..
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)So, ironically, she's right: they really don't understand how it all works.
justice1
(795 posts)handmade34
(22,759 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,392 posts)But thanks for the ammo, ma'am.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)intheflow
(28,515 posts)she has no need to remember the history of social uprisings. The look of surprise when her head rolls down the block will be priceless. C'est dommage!
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,509 posts)Clearly the person who has to clean her nasty ass coke full nails for a living has no fucking clue how the real world works. Baby sitters? Don't even get me started. They should be grateful they are even allowed to breathe the same air as the over privileged punk ass ungrateful brats they have to raise while this poor woman decides if today feels more like a Maserati or a Porsche kind of day............ You'll have to excuse now while I go drown myself in Grover Douchequist's bathtub.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)The people living above the planet's surface enjoyed a life of leisure thanks to the toil of the workers mining the planet surface who lived a miserable life. The cloud dwellers felt it was their mission and destiny to call the shots and live as overlords.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Morlocks, eloi
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)If the Eloi who lived a life of leisure exploited the Morlocks and felt racially and intellectually superior to them, perhaps.
Archae
(46,368 posts)The original script had the two sides finally talking, but McCoy asks "How many children will die in the meantime?"
And Kirk had no answer for that.
In the televised version, Kirk just gave the miners gas masks.
"And they'll be good little darkies and pick all the cotton we want..." -David Gerrold
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)I believe in the Tom Baker era Dr Who had a similar episode. In fact they had many episodes about such situations in their history.
wandy
(3,539 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to vote. Lol, I know people like her, having worked in the Hamptons for several summers.
They are not the brightest, and it is always fun to watch them try to figure out the 'little people' without whom they would not be able to get into their own securitized homes. Many of them do not even know the codes to their gated homes.
If the 'little people' all went on strike, this poor woman would not survive for a day without them.
I bet she pays her 'help' off the books also. Many of them do. And I would be willing to bet that she does not pay for HC for the 'help' either. If she does, she is unique among the Hamptons crowd.
I also would not be surprised if she hires 'illegals' to do her lawn maintainance, while at the same time, railing against illegals invading the country. You cannot find a Lawn Maintenance Co. in the Hamptons, or a big Contractor, that does not hire undocumented workers.
But wealthy Repubs while utilizing cheap labor, never see the hypocrisy of their opposition to those same people being in the country.
Volaris
(10,276 posts)(WARNING NSFW)
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I would have thought HankMed to the rescue so the help can get back to work faster.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)PatSeg
(47,695 posts)the so-called "common people" often DON'T get it. They keep getting ripped off by the very wealthy and they still vote for republicans.
Of course, that probably isn't what she meant, though I'm not really sure what she meant. Guess that means I am common!
Volaris
(10,276 posts)don't understand the debt, interest-on-currency, and Monetary and Financial systems that keeps people like HER from being among the Common.
Fuck this lady, her name should be plastered across every screen in this Nation.
And the above poster is right, this is why guillotines were invented. And the ONLY reason it isn't still being used is because the IMPARTIAL, cool-headed Justice system that was INVENTED in America forbids their use. I bet she's grateful for that bit of "Common" sense), though isn't she? The Bitch.
PatSeg
(47,695 posts)the people she may consider "common" often do NOT get it, which is evidenced by the fact that they keep voting for people who keep them oppressed, sick, under educated, uninformed, etc.
The woman is like a character out of a Dickens novel. Hard to believe someone is so clueless to actually say something like that out loud, though I have no doubt people like her think it all the time. I can see it in Romney's eyes whenever he has to mix it up with the masses. He almost looks like he's in pain at times.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)So painful to be amongst all those stupid, common people.
PatSeg
(47,695 posts)"Think I'm going to be sick!"
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)people like her wouldn't dare return from their tax havens in the Caribbean isles. They'd be running to save their filthy hides, not their loot. And unless they were rich enough to purchase Swiss citizenship preemptively, they would all live in perpetual fear of the day the US Marines hit their beaches to bring them and their bank accounts to justice.
Raine
(30,541 posts)I wish more people understood that.
PDJane
(10,103 posts)Most of them are too damn dumb to do anything but regurgitate their college professors and follow along like good little sheep. Self-absorbed and greedy, for the most part. They need a good swift kick into their own little corner of the world, where they can tell each other how wonderful they are.
If they actually had to live the lives of normal people, they'd be the first to vote for increases in the minimum wage, universal health care, and regulations on big business.
Disgusting.
handmade34
(22,759 posts)"Those with an authoritarian personality tended to be:
Hostile to those who are of inferior status, but obedient of people with high status
Fairly rigid in their opinions and beliefs
Conventional, upholding traditional values
Adorno concluded that people with authoritarian personalities where likely to categories people into us and them groups, seeing their own group as superior. Therefore, the study indicated that individuals with a very strict upbringing by critical and harsh parents were most likely to develop an authoritarian personality...."
TeamPooka
(24,280 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,392 posts)Ah, what do these people know?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Guillotine?
Spazito
(50,556 posts)I could see either of the Romneys saying exactly what this woman has said. It IS how they look at anyone who is not of their 'ilk'.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Not an aristocracy. Maybe you can move to England. Well that is no longer literally an aristocracy.
Initech
(100,123 posts)Curtland1015
(4,404 posts)Everyone needs to know what these people really think of us.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Who made sure low income kids struggle with nutrition, go to shitty schools with underpaid teachers, and are fed a steady diet of fear and bullshit from the bought media?
Whose goddamned idea was that? Do we get to blame those people? Do we get to restrict their right to vote? Do we get to hunt them like animals and jail or deport them if they're found to be breaking the law?
Do they have papers?
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)nm
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)socialist_n_TN
Not an Communist - but dam close - a social-democrat, on the left political speaking. And I think I got influenced by my late fosterfather who defently was on the left political speaking (even though he allways was member of the social democratic party in Norway)
Diclotican
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)SammyWinstonJack
?
Diclotican
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)with the Devil himself. That seems to be the only way we're going to change the paradigm in the world.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)socialist_n_TN
It looks more and more like we have to stick togheter, rather than to be swallowed one by one by the other side.... That be communists, socialist, or socialdemocrats...
We need to change the paragim of the world... Or else we are into a lot of turbulence for a long, long time
Diclotican
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)JI7
(89,282 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)"... a New York City donor ... she said from the passenger seat of a Range Rover stamped with East Hampton beach permits.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=39684
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)mountain grammy
(26,663 posts)and many of the common folk (Bill's people) do get it. Do you think a teabagger would "get it" if it heard this woman's remarks? Of course, rush won't say it and it won't appear on fox, so chances are the teabagger will never see it anyway.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...is that the tea party folks ARE commoners. In the eyes of the Koch Brothers, right-wing radio blowhards and also Mitt Romney--the tea-party folk are just ignorant fools who will unwittingly carry the talking points for the rich.
I think the biggest bamboozle ever--is how the top one percent has convinced middle and lower-class folk to be happy mouthpieces for legislation, deregulation and policies that benefit only the uber rich.
It's simply mind blowing. And if you try to talk some sense into these tea party people (and believe me, I have tried) they
will rip you a new one for even suggesting that billionaires and millionaires need to pay their fair share.
I once had a debate--that turned into a screaming match--with a tea partier. Two weeks after the housing market imploded, he insisted that this economic disaster happened because the banking industry was too regulated. Those talking points didn't come from his own brain. Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity injected them into his oh-so-open mind. How can these tea partiers not see that they are being played, and used?
When the truth about what is really happening in our country emerges--it will be these tea partiers who will be out in the streets protesting like rabid weasels. We "get" what is happening. They're so blinded by Glenn Beck that they can't even see what's happening. When they figure out that they've been pawns in the destruction of our democracy--their heads will explode. It's not going to be pretty.
YAY! Let's further deregulate the banks!! Because this crazy, deregulated environment that allows credit-default swaps, mortgaged backed securities that are worthless junk and billion-dollar bailouts is just tooooo darn stifling for these banks!! We need more of this...riiiiiiiight.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)He thinks Beck is a good and truthful man.....
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Should go bowling. I can always tell when Beck's hair is on fire. My neighbor becomes obsessed with Obama's socialist-Marxist ways, and you can just tell that he's spent a great deal of spare time buying more gold and vacuum-sealed lasagnas and beef stroganoff.
young_at_heart
(3,774 posts)She said this with such ease---just rolled off her tongue without thought. Maybe she needs a course in manners and critical thinking!
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)what the fuck *is* going on that you have $25K to hand out to politicians without missing a beat?
what did *you* do that makes you so fucking smart?
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Debbie the Debutante is making her way toward the spotlight.
Oh how I wish this pseudo-elitist viper had made these comments on camera. She encapsulates what
Romney is all about.
I mean seriously...a fundraiser in the Hamptons. LOL! With the Koch Brothers in attendance. LOL!!!
Romney makes the case that Obama has failed middle-class Americans.
I'll bet you $100 that Mitt Romney has NEVER had a conversation with a middle-class American, except on the campaign trail.
"Look honey! A middle-class American in the wild! When can we get back on our luxury campaign bus...flannel gives me hives."
PatSeg
(47,695 posts)From Teabonics.
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn#!/Teabonics
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)soccer1
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apparently believes that if Mitt could only connect to the uneducated and the lower income folks, he'd be able to convince them of why Obama is bad for them and educate them on how the systems work and the impact it has on their lives. Of course, after being "enlightened" they would vote for Mitt. No wonder she wouldn't give her name...her "help" might quit in protest. Don't think Mensa will be recruiting her any time soon. I would love to hear her explanation of "how the systems work" and the impact it has on lower income and uneducated people.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)They won't end well for this latest version either. Time to get out the tumbrels and the National Razor.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)they think they are entitled. She maybe some little lower middle class beauty who hooked up her wagon to some rich guy. You know like the Countess from NY on the Housewife show who thinks putting Countess in front of your name makes you some royal. Well people in the lower middle class are not stupid as they think. We know damn well whats going on. While they are sitting there eating their cake a revolt might help wake them up.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)After showing us what a decimated, dying city Flint had become, he took his camera to a local country club where the local rich folk went on and on about how great everything was, capped off with a rich old lady on the golf course who said that the unemployed don't really want to work anyway.
Democrats_win
(6,539 posts)Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)You can fool some of the peasants all of the time and you can fool all of the peasants some of the time. But you can rob the peasants anytime because they're peasants. That's what they're there for, to maintain the rich.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)kpete
At least they are honest about it - they honesty do believe, (and have for many decades) that the common man and woman are not educated enough to be able to understand what is happing - and that we in their mind, do not deserve to get a vote, because we are not educated enough to understand...
But at one time - she would not be able to vote herself - in fact going less than one hundred years back in the past, she would have no right over her own body, no less able to put a vote - or to have an opinion on her own - it was the job of her man, or her father, and brother to have an opinion, on her behalf... And hopefully marry her to another wealthy family so she would breed another generations of privileged children - men for the business - and girls for be married off to others...
But they do forget the fact, that not many decades ago,they was scared about the "red scare" coming from USSR.. And they kept their ideas for them self, to after USSR broke down in 1991.. After that, it have been drip-drip attitude to the whole seas of disdain for the commons you look at today - They either do not care, or have no clue about the facts, who ended in the revolutions, who toppled the great empires in Russia - the empires of Austria-Hungarian - and the kingdom of France in the 1700s... They tend to forget, that if enough "commons" is tired about how they are treated, it could end in revolutions, one way or another..
But then again - they do the same fault, that everyone who believe they are better than the rest do - goes to a limit where everyone who able to look, is understanding what is happening. And then they discover that the "commons" are not just friendly baby sitters - but also an angry mob who could make them run for their life....
And guess - if they do not have had the "commons" to do their job, baby sit their children, cocking their food, and make their bed, they would have to do it them self - and then suddenly be "common" themself...
But then again - this is what the "elite" have always have spoken about the commons - even 2000 year ago - in writing no less, the roman elite was writing about the commons as beast who had to be kept in shackles - so they do not try to eat their masters... So this is Not exactly news for everyone who have studied history - in one way or another...
Diclotican
triplepoint
(431 posts)Lovey: "I don't know how we're going to explain to our friends that we
spent several years with people who aren't even in the social
register."
Orsino
(37,428 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)Anyone else find it funny that this wealthy, "well-educated" person couldn't come up with the word manicurist?
Citizen Worker
(1,785 posts)boundary lines.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We'll see who is poorly educated.
That goes for a lot of Democrats who are better educated than many Republicans. As for life-experience, that's what common people have in abundance.
This woman needs to leave her protected environment and get real.
frylock
(34,825 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)They have gone too far. They know it but are afraid to look back at the trail of destruction they have left for future generations. Better to shred what is left of the social safety net now before the effects of climate change run up the tab tremendously. Before they might have to start helping foot the bill for the hell on earth they have created.
MissMarple
(9,656 posts)Also from Reston's article:
"Sharon Zambrelli voted for Obama in 2008 but has been disappointed with his handling of the economy and leadership style. "I was very disenchanted with the political process and he gave me hope," she said, but ultimately: "He's just a politician," she said, an "emperor with no clothes."
The Zambrellis scoffed at attempts by the Democrats -- who mocked Romney in an ad Sunday as "great for oil billionaires, bad for the middle class" -- to wage class warfare. "Would you like to hear about the fundraisers I went to for him?" Sharon Zambrelli said of Obama. "Do you have an hour? ... All the ones in the city -- it was all of Wall Street."
"It's not helping the economy to pit the people who are the engine of the economy against the people who rely on that engine," Michael Zambrelli said as the couple waited in their SUV for clearance into the Creeks shortly after the candidate's motorcade flew by and entered the pine-tree lined estate. "He's basically been biting the hand that fed him in '08. ... I would bet 25% of the people here were supporters of Obama in '08. And they're here now.""
It is no wonder that these people are confused. They really believe the GOP political hype about the "job creator". How...ignorant. Didn't they go to college?
FlaGranny
(8,361 posts)a screwed up message. Working, productive people are the engines of the economy, definitely not Wall Street. Poor, deluded woman.
Edit: Of course, to her, "the economy" means making money, not producing anything of value (except for more money for people like her).
obxhead
(8,434 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)How we can afford to give profitable multinational corporations subsidies while simultaneously claiming we don't have enough money to fund social programs. Will the corporations go without needed healthcare or starve if we cut subsidies like the people forced to go without due to cutbacks in social programs?
How can we afford to spend more than every other nation on defense while simultaneously claiming we don't have enough money to fund social programs? Will the MIC collapse if we care for our own citizens?
How can we willfully let our infrastructure rot and decay when millions of people rely on that infrastructure and more when millions of workers are idle looking for work? Wouldn't hiring those idle workers benefit our society by rebuilding our infrastructure, taking pressure off of strained social programs and improving the economy?
How does weakening civil rights help our economy or improve our society? Is it the mark of an advanced culture taking away rights for women and minorities? Cause that would be a new one for me.
How does shipping good paying jobs here in America to countries where workers have fewer rights, where corporations don't have to care about the environment help the local economy here?
Think she can help me understand? Do I need a doctorate? I only have a graduate degree....
Esra Star
(2,167 posts)who think that the words "education" and "indoctrination" are interchangable.
demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)decades. As a union AFM working musician I have rubbed elbows with many extremely rich and powerful people. I have heard these comments more times than I can count. They are not all like this but most feel privileged. They feel they can get away with just about anything and deserve to be pampered because they are better than "common people". In society there is good and bad but throw into the mix being rich and the greed, privilege and condescending attitude shows up in spades.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)That's what the repukes are counting on. It's their "base".
Megahurtz
(7,046 posts)I see them on other forums shooting their mouths off at the unemployed, people who got laid off from their jobs by no fault of their own. They say to them "better support yourself instead of relying on freebies" and they cheer and celebrate that Pennsylvania cut their cash benefits and cut workers to minimum wage. They keep calling people losers for losing their jobs and say they are soaking off the system. God I just hate these people now, I've never been so mad at stupid conservatives before. I sincerely hope they lose every last penny that they have so they can get a taste of their own medicine.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)we need a nice big hurricane to come along and wipe that part of Long Island of the map. Sort of like a colonic cleanse.
soccer1
(343 posts)I'm laughing out loud.....
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soccer1
(343 posts)I almost feel sorry for her and others like her. I see them as "wanna be royalty". The airs that people like this put on make them look absolutely ridiculous. Their noses are so far in the stratosphere they suffer from oxygen deprivation, no doubt the reason for the asinine comments they make about what's best for the American "peasants" and society at large. No doubt some of the politicians they donate to see them as ridiculous. However, Romney and his wife can probably relate to them. Maybe Mitt and Ann are "wanna be royals". Maybe.....
Peaceful Protester
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Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,212 posts)trusted to vote.
malthaussen
(17,230 posts)We common folk don't get hers, and it's sure-enough obvious she doesn't get ours.
-- Mal
liberal N proud
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I know the 1% doesn't equal 47%, so why do people still vote in their own worst interest?