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kpete

(72,035 posts)
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 08:58 PM Jul 2012

(Rick Scott Is TOAST)-This is what healthcare looks like when austerity trumps public health policy.

SUN JUL 08, 2012 AT 05:17 PM PDT
Florida Tuberculosis Cover-up: Rick Scott is toast
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..believing the outbreak affected only their underclass, the health officials made a conscious decision not to not tell the public, repeating a decision they had made in 2008, when the same strain had appeared in an assisted living home for people with schizophrenia.”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/worst-tb-outbreakin-20-years-kept-secret/nPpLs/


But here is where shit gets real in a hurry. The CDC issued a report advising the state of taking concerted action against the strain. But the problem is that nobody was paying attention. You see Governor Rick Scott announced the closure of the A.G. Holley State Hospital and the downsizing of the State Health Department only nine days prior to the CDC advisory. A.G Holley State hospital had been responsible for treating the most difficult of these strains. And it turns out that not only did they close the hospital, they closed it six months early. You got to get that austerity on as soon as possible don't you know.

So here is the toll: 13 dead. 99 infected most of whom were poor black men. Over 3000 exposed in homeless shelters around the Jacksonville area.

The monetary toll? Up to $500 per patient to treat. Up to $275,000 per patient if it becomes drug resistant.

MORE:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/08/1107620/-Florida-Tuberculosis-Cover-up-Scott-Walker-is-toast


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(Rick Scott Is TOAST)-This is what healthcare looks like when austerity trumps public health policy. (Original Post) kpete Jul 2012 OP
Bad news for Floridians demwing Jul 2012 #1
And a crapload of those Floridians would vote for him again in heartbeat. nt valerief Jul 2012 #44
Absolutely correct, anyone who thinks Rick Scott is "toast" peace frog Jul 2012 #47
Selective elimination? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #2
Really? marsis Jul 2012 #53
the worst governor ever!! Sancho Jul 2012 #3
i just hope we can overcome the election fraud he started. eom ellenfl Jul 2012 #4
Don't forget Medicare Fraud Artist... MrMickeysMom Jul 2012 #10
I don't know... he's got so much competittion Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #42
There are no coincidences GETPLANING Jul 2012 #5
It's GENOCIDE as far as I'm concerned. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #14
Florida and Wisconsin bound to go broke in a hurry.. PatrynXX Jul 2012 #6
Is it the name? Scott Walker and Rick Scott. AllyCat Jul 2012 #43
Holy shit, he's a one man death panel. Not that Gov Scott cares, just poor black men riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #7
Defintely. Not sure why the article says 'only the underclass' which includes the disabled... freshwest Jul 2012 #12
Rick Scott is committing genocide. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #15
They are all doing it whenever they cut Medicaid and public services. It is what it is. freshwest Jul 2012 #24
A very good post, I recomment it Lifelong Protester Jul 2012 #39
Rant away. Rain Mcloud Jul 2012 #54
That's the good news malaise Jul 2012 #8
The RW will cheer. That will make it even easier to eliminate the useless eaters. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #16
No there's nothing like a good health scare malaise Jul 2012 #18
They won't give a damn until some 1%er or family member kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #26
Bingo! nt valerief Jul 2012 #45
Last major cholera outbreak in US was in NYC, brought by a ship of immigrants in 1910. haele Jul 2012 #19
this is what happens when criminals become governors spanone Jul 2012 #9
Who needs voter suppression bills. HIlton Brackett Jul 2012 #11
There is a name for this: kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #13
kestrel91316 Diclotican Jul 2012 #36
I know I read something somewhere about how something like this will help decrease the southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #17
Is this story just breaking today? These links make it look so. Firebrand Gary Jul 2012 #20
This will not receive as much as a peep in Big Media Doctor_J Jul 2012 #31
Unfortunately I fear you are right LiberalLovinLug Jul 2012 #46
Add to the death panel aspect, covering up the decisions made by csziggy Jul 2012 #21
It's not the only defense Doctor_J Jul 2012 #32
If you can't disenfranchise 'em, why not just kill 'em off, eh Rick? Beartracks Jul 2012 #22
I say quaratine the whole state of Florida Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #23
so what will happend to R Scott ? (ass ) april Jul 2012 #25
Nothing. This isn't even being reported in Jacksonville, where it happened. RagAss Jul 2012 #29
And this is the sort of thing an awful lot of Scott supporters WANT. Orsino Jul 2012 #38
kr HiPointDem Jul 2012 #27
Kicked RagAss Jul 2012 #28
So Governor Medicare Fraud is also a serial killer Doctor_J Jul 2012 #30
I'm sure the undead Governor is fine with these results. After all, most of these people would retread Jul 2012 #33
Repukes with knowledge thrive on death and suffering, he'll get a second term now Demonaut Jul 2012 #34
This came up on my Facebook page era veteran Jul 2012 #35
I doubt Scott is toast for this. obxhead Jul 2012 #37
Two things, and boy is this bad stuff Lifelong Protester Jul 2012 #40
So he's responsible for the spread of TB in the population The Blue Flower Jul 2012 #41
People need to understand better how "Pro-Lifer"s have been killing health care legislation patrice Jul 2012 #48
Must feel odd to be so void of empathy. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #49
Actually, Scott, like Ryan, is the epitome of the Randian Superman ideal: freshwest Jul 2012 #52
That really is sick stuff. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #57
You ever seen what a flock of chickens, or dogs if one is injured, does? They'll try to kill it. freshwest Jul 2012 #58
That darn reptilian brain wins every time. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #59
The "money trumps peace" crowd hide the facts.... Hidden facts end up costing many times more midnight Jul 2012 #50
Knowing the warped mindset of the GOP thety probably think only poor people get TB. Lint Head Jul 2012 #51
20 years keeping silent? Wouldn't jebby have had to have been silent as well? Dont call me Shirley Jul 2012 #55
And yet they are spending billions Smilo Jul 2012 #56
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
1. Bad news for Floridians
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:14 PM
Jul 2012

but a career ending issue for Governor Voldemort? He doesn't seem to give a shit.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
47. Absolutely correct, anyone who thinks Rick Scott is "toast"
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:03 PM
Jul 2012

clearly doesn't know Flori-duh. As unpopular with most Republicans as he is, they would still vote for him before they would EVER vote for some soshulist, satinist, commie-lovin' Democrat.

 

marsis

(301 posts)
53. Really?
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jul 2012

You have to ask that question(?), I didn't see a sarcasm icon.
I'll give you the short answer, yes they are!

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
10. Don't forget Medicare Fraud Artist...
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:50 PM
Jul 2012

Hospital Corporation of America.

As an ex Floridian of 30 years, I get to hate his ass for the crimes he served in training... that fucking piece of shit.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
6. Florida and Wisconsin bound to go broke in a hurry..
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jul 2012

one would think that after spain and Greece have tried this. Republicans would have nothing to run on......

Choice is rather simple. want America to be like Greece vote for Mitt R Money. if you wanna vote for America vote for Obama.

AllyCat

(16,249 posts)
43. Is it the name? Scott Walker and Rick Scott.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:13 PM
Jul 2012

I always think we have it bad here in Wisco, then I hear about Fla. Not sure which is worse, I just hope both states survive these criminals and we can move on at a later time.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
7. Holy shit, he's a one man death panel. Not that Gov Scott cares, just poor black men
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jul 2012

probably thought nobody would notice.

Disgusting.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. Defintely. Not sure why the article says 'only the underclass' which includes the disabled...
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:00 PM
Jul 2012

The Ayn Rand 'producers' like Scott, Ryan, Boehner, etc. are busily eliminating the 'parasites,'or what the Nazis called 'worthless mouths.'

Looks like a duck, walks like a duck... Yeah, we got more than enough clues what these guys want America to look like and it won't be pretty.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
24. They are all doing it whenever they cut Medicaid and public services. It is what it is.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:22 PM
Jul 2012

People didn't used to get caught up in all the weasel words and just said it. FDR, MLK, RFK, Bernie Sanders and Chris Hedges don't play around with what this is about, anymore than most of the veterans of WW2.

I remember working with a group fighting the closure of facilities such as that in the article. A man who was one of first into the concentration camps to rescue those that were still alive, said in his testimony against closures that he had not fought his way with others to Germany to see the same things happening here.

Today, as was predicted by Jefferson, Lincoln and others, the corporatists get away with eugenics and murder by nature of ideological euphemisms, reforms, privatization, efficiencies and such other terms. Germany ran on slave labor, plunder and murder. Most fascist regimes do. The Germans went after the disabled first, since they were easy pickings and the moved ahead.

We have the GOP criminalizing anything and anyone who isn't of a certain type. In the big picture, it's not the kind of bigotry they keep us divided with, it's all about money and power and connections, and the assumptions that the disadvantaged are not good for the bottom line. The bottom line and purpose of those fascist regimes was met, and a lot of money changed hands.

The secret is for the masses to not get caught up in the mass illusions, venality and prejudices that have always been used to make us kill each other. In that way, sad to say, I think the super rich have a moral case. They don't hate each other, so they endure, but they sell us on it.

People in Florida and other states that don't resist this have their reasons. Some feel helpless, others think those people should die anyway, but won't say so publicly. They pretend to have some other cause to be interested. Like what's going on in someone's else's body or pants. Just not the big stuff, the slaughter.

Sorry to be so long but I have to vent sometimes.

 

Rain Mcloud

(812 posts)
54. Rant away.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 06:36 PM
Jul 2012

I enjoy reading your thoughts even when the subject is as gruesome as this one was,your perspective is indeed fresh.
Thank You.

malaise

(269,244 posts)
8. That's the good news
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:39 PM
Jul 2012

Cholera has spread from Haiti to Cuba. Jamaica is watching very closely since our last cholera outbreak was in 1854. Just contemplate the thought of cholera spreading to Florida.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18758325

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
16. The RW will cheer. That will make it even easier to eliminate the useless eaters.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:26 PM
Jul 2012

They have turned to genocide to eliminate their political opposition.

haele

(12,686 posts)
19. Last major cholera outbreak in US was in NYC, brought by a ship of immigrants in 1910.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:56 PM
Jul 2012

NYC public health and sanitation were on top of it as soon as the ship hit port, quarantined anyone that had come in contact with the ship, and only 11 people died. If this action against TB is any indication of the reaction of Florida's public health and sanitation departments, we could be looking at a large number of deaths quickly expanding across the country due to the availability of quick mass transportation and exposure to even a single carrier. The sanitary infrastructure of the US has degraded over the past five decades to a level that we hope is equivalent to that of 1910...

The "second pandemic" of 1827 through the 1850's in the US killed over 150,000 across the US - in cities and rural areas, and all types of communities. A carrier could be contagious for days before they show symptoms - but once they get sick, death comes pretty quickly. And it didn't matter if they were poor or wealthy; just one contagious servant, or a delivery man, or even produce bought from a market-woman who just hadn't gotten sick yet, and the rich who would wall themselves off thinking that would keep them from getting sick died just as easily as the push-cart vendor,
Cholera is still rather strange; it's thought to be a mix of poor sanitation and bacterial contagion, but there are several distinct bacterial strains in the wild that have suddenly flared up without warning and propagate for a couple decades, then just go dormant just as quickly for no apparent reason, and people have been recorded developing the disease without apparently being at risk due to exposure or poor sanitation.

This modern strain from Haiti has already infected over 500,000 people in Haiti and the Dominican Republic, and may have killed as many as 15,000, depending on if you believe the Haitian government or the WHO. Cuba's medical system should be able to handle the disease, but the other islands may be in trouble. Just as much trouble as Florida would be in.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
13. There is a name for this:
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:23 PM
Jul 2012

"13 dead. 99 infected most of whom were poor black men. Over 3000 exposed in homeless shelters around the Jacksonville area." = GENOCIDE

Somebody call the UN.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
36. kestrel91316
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jul 2012

kestrel91316

GOP doesn't care for UN - They doesn't care for everything, or anyone who are not rich, and powerfull... Even I who live abroad understand it. why could not enough americans do it too?

Diclotican

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
17. I know I read something somewhere about how something like this will help decrease the
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:37 PM
Jul 2012

populations. OMG this a living hell. Scott should be thrown in jail as a murder. I can see some of these people going to visit their families and friends in other states and spreading this all over the place. Shame.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
20. Is this story just breaking today? These links make it look so.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:06 PM
Jul 2012

If thats the case and it has not hit the MSM, it's gonna be a fun ride to watch that criminal mother fuc*er go down.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
46. Unfortunately I fear you are right
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:51 PM
Jul 2012

I've grown so cynical about our "fourth estate" and I've seen many celebratory posts of impending GOP collapse come and go.

"the ignored "Bin Laden sure to attack memo" will be the death of BushCo."
"Outing a CIA operative will take down the neo-cons!"
"Illegal wiretapping will result in impeachment!"

etc....etc....etc.......

In any other country the Republican Party would be a dead elephant, if the press just did its job. Here the MSM's job is not to report the truth. No, their job is to make sure there is as close to a 50/50 horse race as possible which usually means having to have on right wing Rethug defenders on twice as much as Democrats in order to drown out those pesky liberal facts and where cons can implement their favorite tactic of accussing the left of nasty or criminal acts that in fact they themselves are guilty of, thus confusing the populace...and the ignorant TV host at the same time it seems.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
21. Add to the death panel aspect, covering up the decisions made by
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:06 PM
Jul 2012

The State Health Department.

From the Palm Beach Post link in the OP:
They spoke about CDC’s report Friday, only after weeks of records requests from The Palm Beach Post. The report was released late last week only after a reporter traveled to Tallahassee to demand records in person. The records should be open to inspection to anyone upon request under Florida Statute 119, known as the Government in the Sunshine law.


Whoever tried to keep this information from the newspaper should be charged with violating the Government in the Sunshine law. It's our only defense against some of the stuff the GOP has pulled.

Beartracks

(12,822 posts)
22. If you can't disenfranchise 'em, why not just kill 'em off, eh Rick?
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:14 PM
Jul 2012

Way to go on the money-saving scheme there, Rick.

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Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
23. I say quaratine the whole state of Florida
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:15 PM
Jul 2012

Until this pestilence ends. And by "pestilence", I mean the rule of Rick Scott.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
38. And this is the sort of thing an awful lot of Scott supporters WANT.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jul 2012

Poor brown people dying of diseases just reinforces their stereotype of poor brown people as...diseased. There will eventually be some outrage, but enough to successfully recall this governor? I doubt it. Floridian political discourse tends toward the mean-as-hell, and Scott delivers.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
30. So Governor Medicare Fraud is also a serial killer
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 08:13 AM
Jul 2012

I predict no adverse affects on his career, due to Hate Radio

retread

(3,765 posts)
33. I'm sure the undead Governor is fine with these results. After all, most of these people would
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 08:40 AM
Jul 2012

vote Democratic. That is, if they were allowed to.

Demonaut

(8,934 posts)
34. Repukes with knowledge thrive on death and suffering, he'll get a second term now
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 08:49 AM
Jul 2012

it just seems to be the trend

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
37. I doubt Scott is toast for this.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:33 PM
Jul 2012

"most of whom were poor black men."

That alone will likely encourage a majority of his voters.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
40. Two things, and boy is this bad stuff
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:02 PM
Jul 2012

but 1) the dailykos link says Scott Walker is toast {I'd sure like that to be true}
And 2) As much as repub politicos might like the idea of poor brown and black folks dying off, aren't those people also "the help"? You know, the folks that cook and clean for them, the ones who cook in restaurants, bus dishes, pick vegetables and fruit, etc. So, isn't there a pretty good chance that this could spread to the 'voter class' as the repubs would like to think of the all whitey group?

Despicable.


Start marking your calendars, folks, this is the year it is really starting to go down. IMHO.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
48. People need to understand better how "Pro-Lifer"s have been killing health care legislation
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jul 2012

for decades if it had even the most indirect funding for even the smallest family planning policies in it, that's legislation directed to here at home and also foreign aide and military stuff.

Decades of health care legislation that included Anti-biotic Resistant TB fighting funds in it, affecting disease prevention efforts ALL OVER THE WORLD, killed by a bunch of people so obsessed with fetuses and with controlling women that they don't give a shit about killing INNOCENT people in un-necessary wars and contributing to the spread of nearly un-treatable diseases, including TB, all over Earth.

Pro-Life is a DEATH cult.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
49. Must feel odd to be so void of empathy.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jul 2012

So bereft of ethical conundrums unless they pertain to the the holy dollar.
Bet he's a hoot at parties!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
52. Actually, Scott, like Ryan, is the epitome of the Randian Superman ideal:
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jul 2012
The loudest of all the Republicans, right-wing attack-dog pundits and the Teabagger mobs fighting to kill health care reform and eviscerate "entitlement programs" increasingly hold up Ayn Rand as their guru. Sales of her books have soared in the past couple of years; one poll ranked Atlas Shrugged as the second most influential book of the 20th century, after the Bible.

The best way to get to the bottom of Ayn Rand's beliefs is to take a look at how she developed the superhero of her novel, Atlas Shrugged, John Galt. Back in the late 1920s, as Ayn Rand was working out her philosophy, she became enthralled by a real-life American serial killer, William Edward Hickman, whose gruesome, sadistic dismemberment of 12-year-old girl named Marion Parker in 1927 shocked the nation.

Rand filled her early notebooks with worshipful praise of Hickman. According to biographer Jennifer Burns, author of Goddess of the Market, Rand was so smitten with Hickman that she modeled her first literary creation -- Danny Renahan, the protagonist of her unfinished first novel, The Little Street -- on him.

What did Rand admire so much about Hickman? His sociopathic qualities: "Other people do not exist for him, and he does not see why they should," she wrote, gushing that Hickman had "no regard whatsoever for all that society holds sacred, and with a consciousness all his own. He has the true, innate psychology of a Superman. He can never realize and feel 'other people.'"

This echoes almost word for word Rand's later description of her character Howard Roark, the hero of her novel The Fountainhead: "He was born without the ability to consider others." (The Fountainhead is Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' favorite book -- he even requires his clerks to read it.)


If ones really wants to get into the mind of Ayn Rand, read this link with details of what Hickman did, that Rand clearly knew about and built her philosophy upon. The woman Libertarians, Ron Paul and Paul Ryan worship. Never trust anyone who uses these terms. Be warned, this is sick stuff, but it was well known and published. There is no excuse for this.

http://www.alternet.org/story/145819/?page=entire

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
57. That really is sick stuff.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 09:42 PM
Jul 2012

I just came off reading the post about the schizophrenic young man who was beaten to death by the police officers and reading the lines about "First they came for the communists".
This whole Rand superman thing which is an awful like Nietzsche and his superman philosophy which of course lead to some problems in Germany. I don't know. Sometimes it feels like the same playbook with a different name. Especially after reading something as disturbing as the police brutality story, the way it is allowed to flourish, the commendations for brutality in the military and public service. Sure doesn't feel like Kansas anymore.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
58. You ever seen what a flock of chickens, or dogs if one is injured, does? They'll try to kill it.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 10:42 PM
Jul 2012

It's that same reptilian part of the brain that reacts to what does't seem to match. We all need that part of the brain and we all have it. It's the part that has us react to save ourselves, also to get anything done that requires high focus and repetition.

The fore brain is supposed to buffer that and allow us to reflect and decide whether to act. In a mob situation, the reflection is gone, it's all reaction. That is what causes police brutality, an over excitation and the reptilian brain takes over just like a snake. We all have it, but to have a society that isn't completely sociopathic, it has to be restrained. It can never be eliminated, it must be tamed.

There are many things in this life that require this. But talk radio and non-stop media feed right into the part of the brain that has no conscience, no morals, no reason. That's why this stuff happens.

And they did not come for the communists first, if you're talking Nazis. But in keeping with what you said, it turns out that a lot of the SS were college educated. So we're not talking stupid here, we never were.

Cunning, clever, intelligent and ruthless, yes, they were that. Many of these qualities have been useful over the centuries. But it's not a basis for government or society and should be recognized for what it is, part of the human race, not superior.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
59. That darn reptilian brain wins every time.
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jul 2012

The managers of the message know the buttons to push and we obey like a dog with its tail between its legs.
Hope we can break the cycle freshwest. Great food for thought.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
50. The "money trumps peace" crowd hide the facts.... Hidden facts end up costing many times more
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:25 PM
Jul 2012

when the teabirchers take hold....

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
56. And yet they are spending billions
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 08:01 PM
Jul 2012

on the off chance that a bio-terrorists releases an infectious disease into a community.

And here is Scott, home grown terrorist governor, who knowingly allows a very serious and infectious disease in his community - where is homeland security when you need them?

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