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alp227

(32,073 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:14 PM Jul 2012

Ted Nugent: 'I'm Beginning to Wonder if it Would Have Been Best had the South Won the Civil War'

Brian Tashman, Right Wing Watch

Musician and Mitt Romney backer Ted Nugent took to the Washington Times today to blast the Supreme Court, and Chief Justice John Roberts in particular, for upholding the “un-American, Constitution-violating” health care reform law. “Because our legislative, judicial and executive branches of government hold the 10th Amendment in contempt,” Nugent writes, “I’m beginning to wonder if it would have been best had the South won the Civil War.”

Nugent, who was successfully courted by Mitt Romney in April, goes on to claim that the Supreme Court’s ruling “engineered the ultimate demise of this great experiment in self-government” and ushered in “the smothering era of socialism.”

full: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ted-nugent-beginning-wonder-best-south-won-civil-war

Hmm. Some of us may actualy agree with this low-talent has-been right-wing rock star given that all the former (official) Confederate states (excluding states like Missouri that were informally claimed by the CSA) now commonly:
- have right-to-work-(for-less) laws,
- parental notification/consent laws for minor abortions,
- restrictions on same sex marriage encoded in their state constitutions (including except in TN and MS any same sex union), and
- no employment discrimination laws protecting gay employees.
- Additionally in the latest Gallup poll, 9 of the 10 most religious states were formerly part of the Confederacy.
- Also, these states tend to be the biggest leeches of federal money, all except FL and NC getting surplus federal funds per tax dollar.

So many the US would be much more progressive if we just let the Confederacy go and develop their own libertarian, unregulated, vigilante, fundamentalist paradise?

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no_hypocrisy

(46,287 posts)
1. Trying to imagine all 50 states with legal slavery
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jul 2012

Unexpected consequences if the South had won. The free states may have had to allowed slavery in order to compete with the South the way northern states weakened their labor/union protectons because of the southern states "right to work" legislations.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
6. After 20 years, it would likely have slowly been outlawed in the South as well
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:57 PM
Jul 2012

Certainly by 1900, plus it would have saved 600,000 American lives and 1 million+ injuries. Two separate countries today would mean one liberal, one conservative. Maybe Teddy boy is right.

Johonny

(20,942 posts)
7. It would of end up a lot more like Europe
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 05:04 PM
Jul 2012

With at least 3 countries. A north eastern centered country, a southern country and a western country. It may have fractured even more as it is unlikely the new south was going to be able to hold its union together. Which means a lot more fighting between nations over resources during the last 100 years. Which means we might not of save Europes * in WWI and WWII. Which means Teddy boy might be speaking Russian right now and singing the praises of Lenin and Stalin on state controlled radio. Who * really knows because in the real world the South lost its ass in the war.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
10. oh please, where do you come up with this ?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jul 2012

The South couldn't free its slaves as the entire economic system depended on slavery. There was no alternative. The idea that slavery would have disappeared on its own accord is nothing but magical thinking.

And liberals and conservatives are not neatly geographically distributed, either.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
13. I don't think the south winning would have been a good outcome, but I wonder if letting them secede
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:02 PM
Jul 2012

would've been a good idea.

I don't think that have two countries instead of one United States would have ended the country (north or south or either or both). They would've been close allies, worked together, had many of the same goals.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
4. I told my nutty RW brother about what "unkle ted" did to avoid the draft. Pissed him off royally
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:22 PM
Jul 2012

he said he was very disappointed in Nugent as he loved his music, but my brother was drafted and said the service during Vietnam ruined his life!

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
5. Another nugget of "wisdom" from pedophile and gun fetishist Ted Nugent. He desperately needs
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jul 2012

attention, which his music hasn't gotten since about 1989.

Nuge's last (s)hit:



Forgettable garbage just like everything else he's ever made.

onethatcares

(16,206 posts)
8. why are we giving this asshole any mention?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 05:08 PM
Jul 2012

he's an overweight has been that has no sway over anything, fug him, forget him and move on. The less attention he gets from us, the more of a has been he is.

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